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Old 08-12-2012, 04:06 PM
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I haven't watched it yet, but it seems a lot of people disagree with the decision.

Fightmetric agrees that Frankie won that fight too; which is interesting...

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/08/...icial-ufc.html
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:16 PM
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I haven't watched it yet, but it seems a lot of people disagree with the decision.

Fightmetric agrees that Frankie won that fight too; which is interesting...

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/08/...icial-ufc.html
The best way to put it is that no one decisively won most of the rounds. They were all close and it just depended on what the judges were looking for when scoring.
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When it comes to a a judges' decision, you don't add the judges scores together, you add up the number of judges who scored it in your favor.

In other words, it's not 46+48+48 vs. 49+47+47 = 142 vs. 143. It's Judge 2 + Judge 3 vs. Judge 1 = 2 vs. 1. That first judge could have scored it 5,000,000-0 in favor of Frankie & it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

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The best way to put it is that no one decisively won most of the rounds. They were all close and it just depended on what the judges were looking for when scoring.
Agreed. When I was watching it, I felt like Ben was coasting in the 5th because he left like he had it in the bag & was fighting to not get finished. I couldn't believe it that the'd be that confident after 4 narrow rounds.
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When it comes to a a judges' decision, you don't add the judges scores together, you add up the number of judges who scored it in your favor.

In other words, it's not 46+48+48 vs. 49+47+47 = 142 vs. 143. It's Judge 2 + Judge 3 vs. Judge 1 = 2 vs. 1. That first judge could have scored it 5,000,000-0 in favor of Frankie & it wouldn't have changed the outcome.
Yeah, I knew that....but STILL! You don't expect me to be logical, do you?


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I haven't watched it yet, but it seems a lot of people disagree with the decision.

Fightmetric agrees that Frankie won that fight too; which is interesting...

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/08/...icial-ufc.html
I find it interesting that fightmetric has Edgar landing more significant strikes but on the PPV the UFC has Henderson landing more
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That was a pretty close fight in my opinion, right decision.
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So Frankie has 143 points and Benson 142 points but Frankie loses?
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WTF........How can you win by one point BUT loose the fight? Time to find judges who know what they are doing.
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Some quotes from Rami Genauer of Fightmetric from a February 2012 article talking about the use of their data:

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Interestingly and organically, FightMetric has become a valued source within the MMA community during disputes over winners and losers or controversial decisions. The company scores all UFC fights using their own methodology and posts the results on their website. MMA media often pore over their data to determine if the numbers confirm or deny the legitimacy of what actually took place. Would those sorts of in-demand numbers also be used during UFC events? Genauer is skeptical. "I would tend to doubt that [UFC] would want to use the data in a way that would try to assign a winner or loser based on the data."

"You would not want to come up with a pronouncement based on the live data we're producing which we know is going to be subject to some revision or correction after the slow motion replay is done," Genauer continued. "I don't think anyone has a desire to go out and preemptively shame the judges because the data came out one way and the decision comes out the other. Everyone has their own opinion on how fights should be scored. That's fair because the criteria are qualitative.
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Yeah, I knew that....but STILL! You don't expect me to be logical, do you?




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That was a pretty close fight in my opinion, right decision.

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So Frankie has 143 points and Benson 142 points but Frankie loses?

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WTF........How can you win by one point BUT loose the fight? Time to find judges who know what they are doing.


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We posted at the same time. That Buc is always funny!
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