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Old 08-10-2012, 01:07 PM
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I am in favor of giving our military extra early time to make sure their votes are counted. But the BO administration isn't challenging that, they want to extend the 3 extra days to all Ohioans, as democrats benefit from absentee and early voting (as the article states). Here is a link that is pretty fair in explaining both sides.

rnc is right and I should have read more about the topic. But I don't take back a single word on Obama and his DoJ. They have challenged voter ID laws in several states. Holder recently made the outrageous statement that the Texas voter ID law is a poll tax ( I've posted 2 links, one from each side of the political spectrum). Shame on them. They have hit a new low with the super pac ad touting Romney as being responsible for someone's death, an ad so chock full of outright lies that even the left is calling it despicable. I think they will say and do anything to retain power.
oh, i'm not saying both sides aren't using dirty tactics .. i mean, this is one good example .. most people thought the dems were trying to get rid of the early voting for the military from how it was communicated ... it ain't gonna be pretty between now and november .. thats for sure ..
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:33 AM
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I've read that defense that he's merely trying to make the extension apply to everyone, but from what I understand (and I'm not a lawyer, so I can only form my opinions based on what lawyers say) that's essentially a lie and a diversion away from their real purpose.

Like I said, the military tends to vote very conservative and Obama just opened up all of the US Armed Forces for homosexuals to serve openly. He's not going to be very popular among the military (I was in the Army when DADT was passed and I expect the reaction to this to be about the same). Also, I remember reading a story back in 2008 about lost absentee ballots from military bases that were never counted. It probably wouldn't have been enough to change the results of the election, but it seems to me that Obama is covering all of the bases to try to ensure that he stays in office.

At this rate, if Obama wins a second term, then I expect him to be working to find a way around the 2-term limit four years from today.
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I've read that defense that he's merely trying to make the extension apply to everyone, but from what I understand (and I'm not a lawyer, so I can only form my opinions based on what lawyers say) that's essentially a lie and a diversion away from their real purpose.

Like I said, the military tends to vote very conservative and Obama just opened up all of the US Armed Forces for homosexuals to serve openly. He's not going to be very popular among the military (I was in the Army when DADT was passed and I expect the reaction to this to be about the same). Also, I remember reading a story back in 2008 about lost absentee ballots from military bases that were never counted. It probably wouldn't have been enough to change the results of the election, but it seems to me that Obama is covering all of the bases to try to ensure that he stays in office.

At this rate, if Obama wins a second term, then I expect him to be working to find a way around the 2-term limit four years from today.
I agree, I don't think it's so much wanting to "include" everybody, but rather trying to find a way to limit or impede any vote they feel is going to go against them. That disgusting Obama super PAC ad by Priorities USA accusing Mitt Romney of killing a woman has proven to me beyond any doubts that Obama and his minions will stop at nothing to win his re-election. The guy from Priorities USA who's been all over tv is a liar, Stephanie Cutter, Obama's Deputy Campaign Manager is a liar, and I'm sorry, but who are they lying for, so yeah, I'm calling the President a liar too. He's not the first president to lie and I'm sure he won't be the last, but it still doesn't make it right. While this ad was playing all over tv, the President was giving a speech complaining about, "You've got these super PACs just going crazy." If he was trying to make himself look innocent or not a part of what's going on with his campaign and these ads, he failed, he only made himself out to be a big fat hypocrite. But then, that's nothing new with him. He talks the talk, but don't walk the walk.

I know both sides are guilty of questionable tactics, but putting out an ad basically saying, "Mitt Romney killed my wife.", that's just disgraceful! And that man, Mr. Soptic, should be ashamed of himself, using his wife and her death to promote a lie to smear a man.
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I agree, I don't think it's so much wanting to "include" everybody, but rather trying to find a way to limit or impede any vote they feel is going to go against them. That disgusting Obama super PAC ad by Priorities USA accusing Mitt Romney of killing a woman has proven to me beyond any doubts that Obama and his minions will stop at nothing to win his re-election. The guy from Priorities USA who's been all over tv is a liar, Stephanie Cutter, Obama's Deputy Campaign Manager is a liar, and I'm sorry, but who are they lying for, so yeah, I'm calling the President a liar too. He's not the first president to lie and I'm sure he won't be the last, but it still doesn't make it right. While this ad was playing all over tv, the President was giving a speech complaining about, "You've got these super PACs just going crazy." If he was trying to make himself look innocent or not a part of what's going on with his campaign and these ads, he failed, he only made himself out to be a big fat hypocrite. But then, that's nothing new with him. He talks the talk, but don't walk the walk.

I know both sides are guilty of questionable tactics, but putting out an ad basically saying, "Mitt Romney killed my wife.", that's just disgraceful! And that man, Mr. Soptic, should be ashamed of himself, using his wife and her death to promote a lie to smear a man.
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You said it in a nutshell, Bon, I couldn't agree more.
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