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[Bonnie]

Originally Posted by Tyburn

Its what we call a Stream...its not really big enough to be a river. I believe it is a tributary that runs into the River Nidd. I thought it was Oak Beck...but I now believe its a second Beck

Below is footage of the River Nidd...you can see how much bigger and...very powerful it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN6wXPIUCAk

Yes, you can definitely hear the power of that water, not nearly as soothing as the stream. Is Scotton a natural park of some sort? Where is this to where you live now and/or where you will be living? How do you get about to these places since you don't drive?

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by kevint13

Kiss your mother with that mouth?

I have never heard you talk that way Dave!

I try not to speak in that sort of manner...but sometimes I forget myself...more so in speaking then in writing. At work last week my Section Leader distressed me a tad...and my Manager made the unfortunate mistake of asking me what was wrong...sooooo I told him...

What happened was I had started to do the flowers and knew I wouldnt have finished them in time for break, so I called my Section Leader to arrange cover or else I couldnt leave. I gave him half an hours notice, and three quarters of an hour later he still hadnt got back to me, so I phoned him...no reply, So I put a call out for him, no reply...then someone told me he'd gone for his break....sooooo I called the canteen, and got them to drag him to the phone to explain himself.

He said he was sorry but he forgot....thats when the manager came up behind me and heard me shout "oh, thats alright then" and slam the receiver down...and asked what was wrong I'm appauled to say I was most scathing about that particular section leader...and my manager just sort of stood there and looked at me blankly...then I wandered back to finish the flowers and I heard him go up to one of the nearby key collegues and say "I've never heard Dave sware before" and the KC turned round and said "when Dave is on one, NEVER ask him whats wrong"



I was supposed to go at ten...it was 11.15 before I was able to be relieved

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

Yes, you can definitely hear the power of that water, not nearly as soothing as the stream. Is Scotton a natural park of some sort? Where is this to where you live now and/or where you will be living? How do you get about to these places since you don't drive?

Nidd Gorge is a bit of park land preserved by Harrogate Borough Council, its part of The Woodlands Trust...so its Free...not all parks are, RHS Harlow Carr Gardens are NOT Free, National Trust is NOT Free, English Heratage is Not Free...all other areas of parkland are unless privately owned.

Originally the whole area from oakbeck which is near Jennyfields in the north west, to Starbeck in the north east was under the protection of Bilton Hall, some kind of mannor house. The owner died and the house became a nursing home and lost its land to the council. Estates like Bilton and Jennyfields were built on it, but the Gorge was left alone.

Now the Gorge is about forty mins walk from my parents...so that will be an hour from my new house in Jennyfields. Scotton is part of the Gorge on the north bank...it was some type of water mill...or something. its now just a house someone lives in I think. You cant walk the North East side of the Gorge until you get to Burgess...thats presumably the private land for Scotton mill. But after the bridge at Burgess you can walk the north side...I have never ventured far on that side beyond The Sanctum....on the south side you can walk all the way to Knaresborough...though I have never made it all that way either...its a long walk...and I've always stopped to read, or write poetry, so I've never tried to walk it properly.

I will do eventually...each time I go I find a new pathway or something...but in winter its treatcherous so I avoid the Gorge...why I went in December was beyond me.

As for other bits of woodland...in short, they ARE walkable from my house IF you have about five hours. So Hookstone is about an Hours walk to the South east, and Birk Cragg maybe about two hours walk to the south west. Beyond that, further out is a creepy place called Fewston....I have up until now stayed clear of that place.

Mother took me once in the car...its probably another hour out from Birk Cragg at my Present location...its near Menwith Hill which is a US listening post. Fewston is one of a set of three resovuours...it was a small village long, long before Harrogate or Menwith was around...maybe longer then Knaresborough, in the middle of The Great Knaresborough Forrest. The Owner at that time was one of the founders of Harrogate, he built Saint Johns Chapel, the crypt of which lies beneith Christ Church on the Stray...there are some really nasty stories about who he was and the sorts of things he did. He built this church in the middle of a forrest on a cross roads.

Later for some reason he burried completely Fewston at the bottom of a gigantic lake. during the summer months the water in the lake drops and the village appears out of nowhere. people go and walk on the old roads and houses there.

I got out of the car, it was dusk, and for some unknown reason I wanted to be taken back home immediately. We walked to the lake, but I would not walk round it, I insisted we went back to the car. We were there for all of about quarter and hour.

It was only AFTER that experience that I decided to do a little research into Fewston and heard about the village at the bottom of the lake. There is a village called Fewston that exists still in the area....I think the one at the bottom of the lake was called Old Fewston, and went by a second name also. I think it may have been something to with a Mr Fairfax, I think he owned the village before it was submerged. I think he left to go to America eventually...either that or maybe he's still at the bottom of the lake ..but more important was a Thomas Linley who seemed to mention a chapel, that may or may not have been Saint John Chapel. This was in the same century as Mother Shipton in Knaresborough. Mother Shipton in a single verse predicted the American Civil War (before America was colonized) Metalic boats, Climate change, The French Revolution down to the number of dynastic rullers from start to finish, Women in the workplace, A federal European Super State...and the second world war.

Her prediction for the end of the world was that we would know its coming by the falling of the bridge in Knmaresborough over the Nidd ...unfortuntely, she forgot to state which bridge she was talking about as there are at least three ahahahaha

I suppose he might just have suffered from porphyria, and she dementia...but either way...Fewston just gives me the creeps.

[Tyburn]

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[VCURamFan]

Originally Posted by Tyburn

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WOOO-HOOOO!!!!

[Bonnie]

Originally Posted by Tyburn

Nidd Gorge is a bit of park land preserved by Harrogate Borough Council, its part of The Woodlands Trust...so its Free...not all parks are, RHS Harlow Carr Gardens are NOT Free, National Trust is NOT Free, English Heratage is Not Free...all other areas of parkland are unless privately owned.

Originally the whole area from oakbeck which is near Jennyfields in the north west, to Starbeck in the north east was under the protection of Bilton Hall, some kind of mannor house. The owner died and the house became a nursing home and lost its land to the council. Estates like Bilton and Jennyfields were built on it, but the Gorge was left alone.

Now the Gorge is about forty mins walk from my parents...so that will be an hour from my new house in Jennyfields. Scotton is part of the Gorge on the north bank...it was some type of water mill...or something. its now just a house someone lives in I think. You cant walk the North East side of the Gorge until you get to Burgess...thats presumably the private land for Scotton mill. But after the bridge at Burgess you can walk the north side...I have never ventured far on that side beyond The Sanctum....on the south side you can walk all the way to Knaresborough...though I have never made it all that way either...its a long walk...and I've always stopped to read, or write poetry, so I've never tried to walk it properly.

I will do eventually...each time I go I find a new pathway or something...but in winter its treatcherous so I avoid the Gorge...why I went in December was beyond me.

As for other bits of woodland...in short, they ARE walkable from my house IF you have about five hours. So Hookstone is about an Hours walk to the South east, and Birk Cragg maybe about two hours walk to the south west. Beyond that, further out is a creepy place called Fewston....I have up until now stayed clear of that place.

Mother took me once in the car...its probably another hour out from Birk Cragg at my Present location...its near Menwith Hill which is a US listening post. Fewston is one of a set of three resovuours...it was a small village long, long before Harrogate or Menwith was around...maybe longer then Knaresborough, in the middle of The Great Knaresborough Forrest. The Owner at that time was one of the founders of Harrogate, he built Saint Johns Chapel, the crypt of which lies beneith Christ Church on the Stray...there are some really nasty stories about who he was and the sorts of things he did. He built this church in the middle of a forrest on a cross roads.

Later for some reason he burried completely Fewston at the bottom of a gigantic lake. during the summer months the water in the lake drops and the village appears out of nowhere. people go and walk on the old roads and houses there.

I got out of the car, it was dusk, and for some unknown reason I wanted to be taken back home immediately. We walked to the lake, but I would not walk round it, I insisted we went back to the car. We were there for all of about quarter and hour.

It was only AFTER that experience that I decided to do a little research into Fewston and heard about the village at the bottom of the lake. There is a village called Fewston that exists still in the area....I think the one at the bottom of the lake was called Old Fewston, and went by a second name also. I think it may have been something to with a Mr Fairfax, I think he owned the village before it was submerged. I think he left to go to America eventually...either that or maybe he's still at the bottom of the lake ..but more important was a Thomas Linley who seemed to mention a chapel, that may or may not have been Saint John Chapel. This was in the same century as Mother Shipton in Knaresborough. Mother Shipton in a single verse predicted the American Civil War (before America was colonized) Metalic boats, Climate change, The French Revolution down to the number of dynastic rullers from start to finish, Women in the workplace, A federal European Super State...and the second world war.

Her prediction for the end of the world was that we would know its coming by the falling of the bridge in Knmaresborough over the Nidd ...unfortuntely, she forgot to state which bridge she was talking about as there are at least three ahahahaha

I suppose he might just have suffered from porphyria, and she dementia...but either way...Fewston just gives me the creeps.

Wow. Did you come across anything in your research about the "why" of him submerging the village Fewston?

I don't know that I'd want to go walking around there either, Dave.

[Bonnie]

Originally Posted by Tyburn

Confirmed Completion date:

THURSDAY 9th FEBRUARY 2012!

Now you can tell your landlord!

[County Mike]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

Now you can tell your landlord!

to SUCK IT!

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

Wow. Did you come across anything in your research about the "why" of him submerging the village Fewston?

I don't know that I'd want to go walking around there either, Dave.

What I found bizzare, wasnt that he might have put a resevour in...it was the fact he didnt demolish things first...that IS strange because at that time and in Harrogate you have old Churches being distroyed and their stone being re-used to build more Churches as they expanded...and yet several manor houses in a little hamlet...were not first taken down before flooding

Somehow that doesnt sit right with me.

The proximity of this site being in the shadow of Menwith Hill does not help. Menwith Hill has a bit of a reputation around here, because of what it is. When Tony Blair was Prime Minister he aided in the expansion of something called The Starwars Project. Put simply, the Starwars Project was the idea to build a set of Listening Stations to project a shield around the globe for the security of the Federal Republic of The United States of America. The idea was simple, detect Missiles far away so that you have time to respond to them and stop them before they approach your soverignty.

Initially there was a major concern that this shield could be used for offense by placing a permanent station in space above the planet so as to coordinate all the listening stations. But this never happened. The main problem the United States had was obvious, in order for the shield to work, the bases had to be placed all over the globe. There are several in England. One of them is Menwith Hill an old Royal Airforce Base. It was decomissioned as a British outpost and given over to the United States Airforce. The Americans do not really like people to take notice of this base...but its a little hard when the area is filled with what can only be described as townhouse sized golfballs

There is the common banter of what such a "spy" base might do. The most worrying I came across during my research was from people who claimed that the US military had been engaged in some kind of search, or chase through fewston...or more aptly, that woodland was in someway causing them bother that they could not speak about. Its all poppycot of course...but if you have ever watched the film "dog soldiers" the forrest looks like that!

No thank you, I'll have nothing to do with fewston or Menwith outside of a midsummers day at Noon