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Old 12-11-2011, 12:19 PM
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so is that how you raise your children ?

oh thats right...you dont have any children.
So, once you have children the standards of right and wrong suddenly change for you? Sorry, nice try, but that is absolute nonsense.

No, I don't have children, but that fact is not relevant to this discussion. If you want to intentionally deceive your children, then that is on you. I don't need to have kids to know that lying to anyone for any reason is wrong.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:16 PM
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So, once you have children the standards of right and wrong suddenly change for you? Sorry, nice try, but that is absolute nonsense.

No, I don't have children, but that fact is not relevant to this discussion. If you want to intentionally deceive your children, then that is on you. I don't need to have kids to know that lying to anyone for any reason is wrong.
there is nothing wrong with children believing in Santa Clause.

i'm actually surprised by the way you judge people in the name of being a Christian.
here i thought one of the duties of being a Cristian was to spread the word of God and try to help people come to God and be saved...
But you Nate, are very harsh and very critical of what other people do in almost every situation one could think of...very UN God like if you ask me.
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:39 PM
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there is nothing wrong with children believing in Santa Clause.

i'm actually surprised by the way you judge people in the name of being a Christian.
here i thought one of the duties of being a Cristian was to spread the word of God and try to help people come to God and be saved...
But you Nate, are very harsh and very critical of what other people do in almost every situation one could think of...very UN God like if you ask me.
I'm confused. Do you believe that God would approve of lying to your children?
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:44 PM
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I'm confused. Do you believe that God would approve of lying to your children?
so tell me...what did you do with your children ?
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:49 PM
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And I do not now nor have I ever believed that stating what you believe to be right or wrong is judging people.

Nate has some very strong views on what he believes to be right and wrong in the eyes of God. I admire a man with strong convictions. Some of his harshness would perfectly apply directly to me. The more it stings, I know he has come closer to hitting the mark. I have never resented him for it and have never felt that he was personally attacking me (nor trying to pass judgement on me). And I certainly don't take his word as gospel but he does make me question my perception and motives sometimes. Therefore, he has more than anyone over the past few years, sent me into prayer and searching my heart and soul for answers from God. So actually I believe he is doing a fine job of drawing some closer to God.

So if his tactics don't suit you personally then, please, don't judge him too harshly.
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:05 PM
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And I do not now nor have I ever believed that stating what you believe to be right or wrong is judging people.

Nate has some very strong views on what he believes to be right and wrong in the eyes of God. I admire a man with strong convictions. Some of his harshness would perfectly apply directly to me. The more it stings, I know he has come closer to hitting the mark. I have never resented him for it and have never felt that he was personally attacking me (nor trying to pass judgement on me). And I certainly don't take his word as gospel but he does make me question my perception and motives sometimes. Therefore, he has more than anyone over the past few years, sent me into prayer and searching my heart and soul for answers from God. So actually I believe he is doing a fine job of drawing some closer to God.

So if his tactics don't suit you personally then, please, don't judge him too harshly.
that's all fine and good that Nate has some very strong beliefs but i also have some very strong beliefs when it comes to what God expects of us and most times mine dont match up with Nates at all...
not saying i'm right and he is wrong...just saying i dont agree with the way he see's everything and when i feel he attacks people to try and make his point i feel sometimes i need to say something.

i know you think i dislike Nate but nothing could be further from the truth....i just dislike the way he comes across sometimes.
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:13 PM
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that's all fine and good that Nate has some very strong beliefs but i also have some very strong beliefs when it comes to what God expects of us and most times mine dont match up with Nates at all...
not saying i'm right and he is wrong...just saying i dont agree with the way he see's everything and when i feel he attacks people to try and make his point i feel sometimes i need to say something.

i know you think i dislike Nate but nothing could be further from the truth....i just dislike the way he comes across sometimes.
I can understand you having different views. What I don't understand is that you percieve him to be attacking people.
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Old 12-11-2011, 05:22 PM
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