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Default Miesha Tate, Ronda Rousey Spar Over Who Should Be Next Title Challenger

Man, I can't believe that no one on here is talking about this (or that it's taken me a week to post it, sorry ). Ronda Rousey (Olympic Judo bronze medalist & 4-0 in pro MMA) has been on a tear since beginning MMA, winning all her amateur & pro matches by armbar in under a minute in the 145lb division. Miesha Tate is the (obviously) the titleholder in the 135lb division. On the Nov 21st edition of Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour, Ronda began campaigning to drop to 135 & challenge for Miesha's title ahead of Sarah Kaufman & Alexis Davis. Needless to say, this caused quite a stir, with both Sarah & Miesha very adamantly opposed. Being the high-level journalist that he is, Ariel immediately arranged for both women to simultaneously appear on his show the very next week (Nov 28th). Listen as Ariel masterfully sets up the topic, introduces each woman & then steps back, letting them enter into a fascinating & heated debate without interference. Below is a link to the video. I believe everyone should watch this:

http://video.aol.com/video/miesha-ta...ate/2070750472

Now, this video is 49 minutes long. I think it's captivating & well worth it, but I understand if you don't want to spend that much time. Below is a recap of the segment if you'd prefer reading. It really doesn't do justice to the engagement because you can't feel the tension or hear the pauses. This was literally verbal sparring at its finest & relying on this article would be like only reading the play-by-play account of Hendo/Shogun.

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Just four fights into her professional fight career, Strikeforce's Ronda Rousey insists that she is ready to face reigning women's bantamweight champion Miesha Tate, and that the fight should be signed imminently. Tate, however, says that the young upstart is not quite ready for the increase in opponent caliber, and that she should wait her turn.

The debate between the two stems from the fact that Strikeforce has yet to announce its intended direction for the division's future. For her part, Tate hopes to bypass Rousey's challenge in order to face Sarah Kaufman in a rematch of their May 2009 fight.

In a charged, joint interview on Monday's edition of The MMA Hour, the two debated their opposing viewpoints on the 135-pound weight class. While Rousey believes that a title fight with Tate would be the most marketable women's fight available, Tate is skeptical about Rousey's experience level and thinks it would be unfair to see her leapfrog more seasoned fighters simply because she asked the loudest for a title shot.

Tate opened up the proceedings with the first shot.

"What happens when she gets a failed arm bar and someone ends up on top pounding her face in?" she said. "Is she going to tap out or quit? We don't know. We haven't seen that yet. I think it's kind of silly to put her in with me because that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to take it to her. A lot of people are underestimating me. That's fine. That always seems to be the case. Make no mistake, if Ronda is my next fight, I'm going to come in with a vengeance you've never seen before, because to be quite honest, it's probably going to piss me off."

Tate said that she believes either Kaufman or Alexis Davis is more deserving than Rousey by virtue of their respective experience levels and longer histories of success. Kaufman -- a former divisional champ -- is 14-1 while Davis is 11-4. Rousey, meanwhile, is 4-0 after turning pro less than nine months ago.

Despite her relative neophyte status in MMA, Rousey's early performances have been so dominant -- each win has come in less than one minute, and finished in arm bar submissions -- the thought of Rousey-Tate has grown steam as Rousey has continued her campaign for the slot.

Rousey responded by noting that Strikeforce does not use a ranking system and simply looks for the fights that will make them the most money. In her mind, Rousey-Tate is the money fight.

"I really feel 100 percent that a fight between her and me needs to happen," Rousey said. "It'll be great for women's MMA. It'll be the first highly anticipated fight in women's MMA for a long time ... We need to capitalize on the opportunity while we still have it. I don't want to risk her losing the title and us not being able to fight each other for the title."

Tate said that Rousey's approach to it has been insulting to the other fighters in the mix, but Rousey justified her tactics, noting the attention it's gotten them in recent weeks.

"I think it's working because she's pretty," Tate said. "If you weren't pretty, it wouldn't matter what you said or didn't say. That's why you're getting this attention. I don't know, I guess I personally like more of a humble approach. You can say you want to be the Chael Sonnen of women's MMA, and Chael gets a lot of press and everything like that, too, but no one likes him."

"Yeah, but he makes a lot of money and he gets a lot of title shots, too, doesn't he?" Rousey responded, pointing out how much Sonnen's profile has grown since changing his promotional approach.

After Tate pointed out that Rousey hasn't even yet competed at 135 pounds a single time, and should have to do so before fighting for the belt, Rousey made a different comparison, one to former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar, who captured his title in his third fight in the octagon. That led to an interesting exchange between the two about a possible matchup.

"What happens if I go out there and I just cream you?" Tate asked. "Then all your hype is just over. Then Ronda was just another pretty face."

"That's a risk I'm wiling to take, and you should be willing to take some risks, too," Rousey said.

"I'm willing," Tate said.

"The longer you wait, the more of an advantage I'll have," Rousey said, predicting that she'll be improving at a faster rate than Tate in the future.

Moments later, Tate shot back, saying, "I feel like you're being really selfish and only thinking about yourself."

"If you want to be an idealist, go to the Olympics," said Rousey, herself a former judo Olympic bronze medalist. "Go do wrestling in the Olympics. There is no ranking system in the UFC or Zuffa. It's completely up to powers that be, and I think that us debating about it is kind of a moot point, because they're the ones who make the decision when it comes down to it, and they don't care about any rankings. They only are about what's going to sell tickets. You want to be an idealist? Go to the Olympics. I did that. I didn't make anything."

Of course, there is at least one other side to this story, and it's Kaufman's. The former champion wasn't a part of the debate between the two although she did give her take later on. While Tate said that a rematch between her and Kaufman could sell based on the revenge angle, Rousey doubted it would be a big hit with audiences, saying it probably wouldn't gain much more interest than their first go-around.

"Sarah Kaufman kind of gives boring interviews, she's not a supermodel and the way she fights, she doesn't finish matches in extraordinary fashion," she said. "It's just kind of being realistic. I'm sorry that I have to say things bluntly and offend some people. I just want there to be a highly marketable, exciting women's title fight, and I want to be part of that because I feel like I could do a really good job, and you could, too. I think the two of us could do a better job of that than you and Sarah Kaufman."

The two ultimately agreed on little except that in the end, they would abide by the decision of the Strikeforce matchmaker Sean Shelby. That, and the fact that they hope to increase the number of eyeballs on women's MMA, though they disagreed on the method to do so.

As for Kaufman, she is expecting the fight she was promised against Tate, and has no qualms about dealing with Rousey at a future date.

"It would be way smarter for the longevity of the division to work her way up," she said. "If she runs through people -- which I don't think she will -- then I'll be happy to beat her face in. She wants to be pretty? She won't be as pretty after our fight."
Now, since physical appearance is at the crux of this argument, below are pics of each woman* in question:

Miesha Tate:


Ronda Rousey:


Sarah Kaufman:


Alexis Davis:


*NOTE - I did not use Miesha's pics from her FIGHT! magazine shoot or her Halloween costumes or Ronda's bikini pics because I felt those may give them an unfair advantage in this debate!
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:55 PM
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I am Team Miesha!!
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Man, I can't believe that no one on here is talking about this (or that it's taken me a week to post it, sorry ). Ronda Rousey (Olympic Judo bronze medalist & 4-0 in pro MMA) has been on a tear since beginning MMA, winning all her amateur & pro matches by armbar in under a minute in the 145lb division. Miesha Tate is the (obviously) the titleholder in the 135lb division. On the Nov 21st edition of Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour, Ronda began campaigning to drop to 135 & challenge for Miesha's title ahead of Sarah Kaufman & Alexis Davis. Needless to say, this caused quite a stir, with both Sarah & Miesha very adamantly opposed. Being the high-level journalist that he is, Ariel immediately arranged for both women to simultaneously appear on his show the very next week (Nov 28th). Listen as Ariel masterfully sets up the topic, introduces each woman & then steps back, letting them enter into a fascinating & heated debate without interference. Below is a link to the video. I believe everyone should watch this:

http://video.aol.com/video/miesha-ta...ate/2070750472

Now, this video is 49 minutes long. I think it's captivating & well worth it, but I understand if you don't want to spend that much time. Below is a recap of the segment if you'd prefer reading. It really doesn't do justice to the engagement because you can't feel the tension or hear the pauses. This was literally verbal sparring at its finest & relying on this article would be like only reading the play-by-play account of Hendo/Shogun.



Now, since physical appearance is at the crux of this argument, below are pics of each woman* in question:

Miesha Tate:


Ronda Rousey:


Sarah Kaufman:


Alexis Davis:


*NOTE - I did not use Miesha's pics from her FIGHT! magazine shoot or her Halloween costumes or Ronda's bikini pics because I felt those may give them an unfair advantage in this debate!
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:15 AM
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I listen to The MMA Hour every week and I honestly thought that segment was boring...

Miesha Tate sounds scared Sh@#!less of Ronda.

I think Its all BS, Her saying that Ronda should get more experience before she gets her shot at her.

All I got out of that interview is that Miesha is not happy about having to fight Ronda.

She almost sounds like a little Spider I know who fakes an Injury so she doesnt have to face a giant bottle of Insecticide!
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She almost sounds like a little Spider I know who fakes an Injury so she doesnt have to face a giant bottle of Synthetic Testosterone!
fixed!!!!
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fixed!!!!
Wait was that suppose to be funny..... (Cricket) (Cricket)

Synthetic Testosterone or no Synthetic Testosterone the bitch is scared and ducking.
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Wait was that suppose to be funny..... (Cricket) (Cricket)

Synthetic Testosterone or no Synthetic Testosterone the bitch is scared and ducking.
probably not to a sonnen fan .. anderson is ducking sonnen ... doesn't change the fact that sonnen and others on TRT like henderson and marquardt are using the therapy as an advantage over other fighters ... sure it's within the rules for most commissions, doesn't mean i have to agree with it .. LOL
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probably not to a sonnen fan .. anderson is ducking sonnen ... doesn't change the fact that sonnen and others on TRT like henderson and marquardt are using the therapy as an advantage over other fighters ... sure it's within the rules for most commissions, doesn't mean i have to agree with it .. LOL
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Based on the hotness: Ronda wins!
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