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i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...
I do know that, what difference does it make though?

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so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.
Brad, I'm thinking you are being ironic here???
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So, you support bowdlerizing speech? How enlightened!
I purposely left an ambiguous reply and am surprised that you are the first to nibble on the bait and make the first assumption.

Did I mean good for NBC for cutting out the words "under god, indivisible" or did I mean good for NBC for apologizing about upsetting viewers? All replies assume the first without any thought that it could mean the latter.

Personally I feel that I am not included it the pledge in it's present form due to the addition of the words under god. I don't and won't pledge to anything that requires me to have a belief in or be subordinate to a god.

Interesting that the pledge was written by a socialist minister, yet didn't include anything about any god in the original form.

Perhaps we could change it again to this.

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I honestly don't know why this would be a surprise to anybody. It's NBC.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:27 AM
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I don't and won't pledge to anything that requires me to have a belief in or be subordinate to a god.
But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.
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But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.
I don't know if a god exists. If by chance one does, I highly doubt it is anything like what is portrayed in any of the religions.

The words "under god' themselves don't cause harm, nor do they unite the entire country. Take out "under god" and all are included, as was the original intent. If the author wished "under god" to be in the final draft, it would have been there.

What harm was caused by the omission besides the false outrage?

They are just words, but words that imply that every person who lives in the U.S.A. live in a nation under God. A false implication at that.
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I don't know if a god exists. If by chance one does, I highly doubt it is anything like what is portrayed in any of the religions.

The words "under god' themselves don't cause harm, nor do they unite the entire country. Take out "under god" and all are included, as was the original intent. If the author wished "under god" to be in the final draft, it would have been there.

What harm was caused by the omission besides the false outrage?

They are just words, but words that imply that every person who lives in the U.S.A. live in a nation under God. A false implication at that.
I'm not outraged. I expect nothing less from a network like NBC; but they'll put the phrase back if the public outcry is big enough.

Similar to how Walmart began saying "Happy Holidays" during the Christmas season one year to keep from offending customers. When it turned out they were actually offending more customers, they changed back to "Merry Christmas" the next year. Was it because Walmart found GOD? No, they just didn't want to hurt their sales.
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But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.
But if God does exist.. and he said the pledge... would there be harm?
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i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...
so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.
Yeah...and American Independance didnt actually happen until December 1783...But will that stop your celebration tommorow

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