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Old 03-25-2011, 06:45 PM
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Well...there was Russia...but I thought bringing up your association with Commies...who you sorta fought side by side with at the time, might leave a nasty after taste due to the cold war era that subsequently followed it.
ouch! Tyburn your feisty today!! lol..
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Old 03-25-2011, 07:01 PM
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Well...there was Russia...but I thought bringing up your association with Commies...who you sorta fought side by side with at the time, might leave a nasty after taste due to the cold war era that subsequently followed it.
You can't change history. Russia carried a huge part of fighting Germany, regardless of our relationship afterwards.
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:15 PM
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Old Europe might have existed had America done the decent thing in 1939.

Its now the European Union...and its nothing but a processing machine. So we defer to the United Nations...something set up jointly by Old Europe and America...which the United States has tried to disown ever since because their design brief was so successful it threatens US Soverignty so many feel...that...on an International Level is EXACTLY what its supposed to do.

...and if you are talking about Iraq or Afghanistan by "dirty work" then you will note, that isnt Old Europes Work...infact, it wasnt even Old Europes Wish in the first place....if your talking about the financial aspect, then I'd say welcome to being a Super power...when the boot was on the other foot, and we had issues you backed out of the Empire...now you might know how we feel...at least you had the option of escape...we dont have that option. Thats the whole issue in terms of the Euro-Vision...noone can control America...so in a sence, why bother?

If its in her interest she supports...if its not in her interest she avoids...and if she wants to do something that is in noones interest but her own...well you just try and stop her....its not like we could stop you guys anyway. So its well harsh to blame all these conflicts on us, now that they are exactly the way we said they would be....going on forever, getting no closer to decisive victory, at huge expence financially, and loosing decent, and hard working patriots who have no choice but to do as their told and end up getting killed for it.
I wasn't lumping Britain in with 'Old Europe' (you are welcome to if you like), Britain has shown plenty of heroism and carried her fare share this last decade, much to the chagrin of her more liberal elements. As for the UN being 'so successful', it was never intended to threaten any nations sovereignty, it's mission was to prevent war, a mission it has failed to do repeatedly because of its members 'not wishing' to confront growing threats, but rather go along to get along and justify larger and larger budgets.

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Old Europe might have existed had America done the decent thing in 1939.
What? Weren't we funneling millions in funds and materiel and thousands of volunteers into Britainís defense in 1939? Are you saying we shouldn't have?
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