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Old 09-05-2010, 07:23 PM
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Personally, I think the guy is an idiot.

However, it's a bit harsh to come down on her over what happened. Unless you, or any of the other posters happen to know Jesse James on a personal level, I don't know how being a cheater is "what you would expect from him". Not everybody who has tattoos and rides motorcycles is a bad person, so be careful before being so quick to pass judgment.
Coming from a guy who rides a motorcycle and has a tattoo I would have to say AMEN!
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:25 PM
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Coming from a guy who rides a motorcycle and has a tattoo I would have to say AMEN!
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Personally, I think the guy is an idiot.

However, it's a bit harsh to come down on her over what happened. Unless you, or any of the other posters happen to know Jesse James on a personal level, I don't know how being a cheater is "what you would expect from him". Not everybody who has tattoos and rides motorcycles is a bad person, so be careful before being so quick to pass judgment.

this whole thread is about passing judgement!!!!!

do any of us know kat on a personal level? aren't we all passing judgement on her without knowing her?

and people always refer to passing judgement when it is a negative judgement, but the same people that look down on kat are giving sandra a good nod, and the benefit of the doubt, when in fact none of us know sandra anynore than we know jesse
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:43 PM
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this whole thread is about passing judgement!!!!!

do any of us know kat on a personal level? aren't we all passing judgement on her without knowing her?

and people always refer to passing judgement when it is a negative judgement, but the same people that look down on kat are giving sandra a good nod, and the benefit of the doubt, when in fact none of us know sandra anynore than we know jesse
You are right, this thread has been about passing judgment, and it does go both ways.

However, all I am saying is that it's a bit heavy handed for somebody who doesn't know the guy personally to say "thats what you would expect from him". Then, on top of that, to say that it's Sandra Bullock's own fault for associating with him is a bit ridiculous. People fall in love, and sometimes people put on a front and hide who they really are. Based on the facts that we know, it's safe to assume that Sandra didn't sign up to be with a guy who dresses up like Hitler while sleeping with mistresses, because she dumped his ass real quick.

I don't know who the hell Kat Von D is, so I didn't comment on her. From my own standpoint, I merely said I think Jesse James is an idiot.
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:38 PM
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You are right, this thread has been about passing judgment, and it does go both ways.

However, all I am saying is that it's a bit heavy handed for somebody who doesn't know the guy personally to say "thats what you would expect from him". Then, on top of that, to say that it's Sandra Bullock's own fault for associating with him is a bit ridiculous. People fall in love, and sometimes people put on a front and hide who they really are. Based on the facts that we know, it's safe to assume that Sandra didn't sign up to be with a guy who dresses up like Hitler while sleeping with mistresses, because she dumped his ass real quick.

I don't know who the hell Kat Von D is, so I didn't comment on her. From my own standpoint, I merely said I think Jesse James is an idiot.


maybe it's not a matter of his character but a matter of how we, as in everybody, stereotype people. and we do

now, the fact that alot of the time we stereotype them right is another argument
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:37 PM
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maybe it's not a matter of his character but a matter of how we, as in everybody, stereotype people. and we do

now, the fact that alot of the time we stereotype them right is another argument
I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:24 AM
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I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:33 AM
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.
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I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?

i don't say this argumentatively as i see we are trying to agree here, but sandra knew what she was getting into

if you like honey, don't get mad when you get stung whilst raiding a hive, sandra knew the chances she was taking with jesse, if she didn't want to risk this happening she shouldn't have started dating him,

i think what we are really disagreeing on is what the betting lines were that it was going to happen, i say they were pretty high, and when you play the odds you shouldn't get pitied when you lose your money,

if sandra really wanted a family, she should have and dare i say would have found a family man
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:50 AM
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.
Well, you would be guessing correctly, I don't watch shows like his. However, I do know of his shows and what he does. I'm not questioning people's opinions of him based on what you see on a television show or weather or not they "found it surprising". I am simply stating that unless you know the guy personally and know that he was doing this stuff, how can you say "it's what you would expect from him" before the fact? Unless there is some sort of stereotype he is fitting into, there is no other reason to say that. I'm pretty sure his TV shows aren't showing him with mistresses, or am I wrong?

Of course, once it's in the press that he actually did it, we all know to expect it from him in the future, but I don't remember there being a big scandal about Jesse James che