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Old 02-09-2009, 07:38 PM
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If BJ keeps fighting and stays at lightweight no one can beat him. Florian is a great LW but BJ will destroy him.

The problem in the GSP fight was GSP. He is a so massive and fast and talented. He is a bigger, better BJ Penn.

BJ is faster and stronger at LW because he is forced to be in shape that is why 155 was perfect for BJ he needs to go back there and secure his legacy again. His record isn't steller and it doesn't reflect how good he really can be if he tried.

Going out now is a bad way to do it and fighting GSP again for the same if not worse result won't do him or his legacy any good.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:49 PM
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If BJ keeps fighting and stays at lightweight no one can beat him. Florian is a great LW but BJ will destroy him.

The problem in the GSP fight was GSP. He is a so massive and fast and talented. He is a bigger, better BJ Penn.

BJ is faster and stronger at LW because he is forced to be in shape that is why 155 was perfect for BJ he needs to go back there and secure his legacy again. His record isn't steller and it doesn't reflect how good he really can be if he tried.

Going out now is a bad way to do it and fighting GSP again for the same if not worse result won't do him or his legacy any good.

I don't think he is better than BJ Penn at anything, just bigger and stronger.
A lot of people bring up the wrestling, but wrestling seems to be a lot about size and strength.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:55 PM
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I don't think he is better than BJ Penn at anything, just bigger and stronger.
A lot of people bring up the wrestling, but wrestling seems to be a lot about size and strength.
GSP's athletics versus BJ's flexibility.

GSP's athletics win. At 170 BJ is overrated at 155 BJ is unbeatable.

GSP's mma striking is way more advanced then BJ's he puts it together better. In a straight boxing match BJ walks away the winner but when you take kicks into consideration or make it a kickboxing match GSP all the way.

BJ better boxer GSP better fighter.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:04 PM
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In what fight did BJ show that he is a good boxer?
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:10 PM
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Guess you didn't see his fight with Sherk?
Even Matt said that BJ punches harder than anybody he's ever fought, and Matt's fought guys much bigger than BJ.
If I remember correctly, they showed a stat prior to the GSP fight - BJ lands something like 70% of his jabs.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:32 PM
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Even GSP knew that BJ had impressive boxing. His strategy was to force BJ against the fence, so that BJ would tire out his shoulders trying to push him off. He wantes BJ to have tired shoulders so he couldn't throw that wicked jab.

When you develop a game plan around the other guys jab, I'd say he's a pretty good boxer.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:00 PM
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Guess you didn't see his fight with Sherk?
Even Matt said that BJ punches harder than anybody he's ever fought, and Matt's fought guys much bigger than BJ.
If I remember correctly, they showed a stat prior to the GSP fight - BJ lands something like 70% of his jabs.
I just wonder if that fight would have been diffrent if bj had the same reach as sherk because more than any thing that screwed him the most.
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:33 AM
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BJ lands something like 70% of his jabs.
Too bad he caught about 80%....
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:47 AM
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GSP's athletics versus BJ's flexibility.

GSP's athletics win. At 170 BJ is overrated at 155 BJ is unbeatable.

GSP's mma striking is way more advanced then BJ's he puts it together better. In a straight boxing match BJ walks away the winner but when you take kicks into consideration or make it a kickboxing match GSP all the way.

BJ better boxer GSP better fighter.
Not taking anything away from Matt, but BJ did beat Hughes at 170 so I wouldnt say he is overrated he just got out classed at UFC94.
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Old 02-10-2009, 05:32 AM
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GSP's athletics versus BJ's flexibility.

GSP's athletics win. At 170 BJ is overrated at 155 BJ is unbeatable.

GSP's mma striking is way more advanced then BJ's he puts it together better. In a straight boxing match BJ walks away the winner but when you take kicks into consideration or make it a kickboxing match GSP all the way.

BJ better boxer GSP better fighter.
What does athletics mean? lol
He is bigger and stronger, we have established that.

I don't feel GSP has better striking at all, he is just bigger and stronger.
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