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Old 05-26-2009, 06:41 PM
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Default Cali courts uphold the gay marriage ban

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30936298

I like what the Judge said about the people having the right to vote to change their constitution.

A judge without his head of his bum.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:38 PM
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Finally some sanity!
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:05 AM
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How will you benefit now that CA has banned gay marriages? How do you feel about interracial marriages?

Boy, they sure showed them gays something, huh?
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:22 AM
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How will you benefit now that CA has banned gay marriages?
It shows that the people are still in control of their own government. There might be a lot of people supporting gay marriage, but there are obviously a lot more against it.

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How do you feel about interracial marriages?
Seriously? I'm disappointed in you. I actually believed you were smarter than this. It's irrelevant, the two issues are completely unrelated.

Obviously the blacks in California can understand the difference between race (something you are born into) and sexual preference (something you choose), because they were the deciding factor for passing the gay marriage ban in California.

Why don't you ask Obama and Biden about how they feel about interracial marriage? Because last I checked they both opposed gay marriage as well.

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Boy, they sure showed them gays something, huh?
We showed them that America is still a Democracy and they're views are still in the minority. That's all that matters.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:59 AM
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It shows that the people are still in control of their own government. There might be a lot of people supporting gay marriage, but there are obviously a lot more against it.
The ones who are against it have nothing to lose, therefor it doesn't hurt them emotionally or financially. Imagine if you were told you weren't allowed to marry the one you love and wished to be bonded with for life, enjoying the liberties and freedoms that a marriage entails.

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Seriously? I'm disappointed in you. I actually believed you were smarter than this. It's irrelevant, the two issues are completely unrelated.
I'm actually disappointed in those who wish to deny others the benefits in which they are entitled to, namely marrying the one they love.

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Obviously the blacks in California can understand the difference between race (something you are born into) and sexual preference (something you choose), because they were the deciding factor for passing the gay marriage ban in California.
Evidence has already been offered up to you to show that there is a strong possibility that being gay is not a choice for some. You just don't accept it. I think the blacks that voted against it are just as wrong as any other people of any other race who voted against it.

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Why don't you ask Obama and Biden about how they feel about interracial marriage? Because last I checked they both opposed gay marriage as well.
I don't need to as I know where they stand on that issue. I disagree with them on that issue and others believe it or not.


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We showed them that America is still a Democracy and they're views are still in the minority. That's all that matters.
We've been through this before. We are not a democracy, but a republic. Remember when Tyburn added that we were a federal republic?
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:21 AM
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I'm actually disappointed in those who wish to deny others the benefits in which they are entitled to, namely marrying the one they love.

Entitled to???

What if I was in love with a married man? Would I be entitled to be able to marry him just because I loved him?
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:43 AM
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The ones who are against it have nothing to lose, therefor it doesn't hurt them emotionally or financially. Imagine if you were told you weren't allowed to marry the one you love and wished to be bonded with for life, enjoying the liberties and freedoms that a marriage entails.
Liberties and freedoms? Obviously you've never been married.

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I'm actually disappointed in those who wish to deny others the benefits in which they are entitled to, namely marrying the one they love.
I would disagree. Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege, and no one is entitled to it. In fact, why are people entitled to these benefits just because they get married? Why can't a single person enjoy some of these benefits and entitlements as well?

Show me where the Constitution guarantees the "right of marriage."

I personally believe that the government shouldn't even be involved in the marriage business. Either you get married in a church or you don't get married at all. What about atheists? You ask. Why do atheists care about marriage in the first place?

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Evidence has already been offered up to you to show that there is a strong possibility that being gay is not a choice for some. You just don't accept it. I think the blacks that voted against it are just as wrong as any other people of any other race who voted against it.
Yeah, I remember, your "evidence" wasn't evidence at all. The only people it convinced were those who already believed that people are born gay. Not to mention those people who are dumb enough to believe that the internet is a reliable source of information.

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I don't need to as I know where they stand on that issue. I disagree with them on that issue and others believe it or not.
But it shoots down your silly notion that this is somehow tied with racism.

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We've been through this before. We are not a democracy, but a republic. Remember when Tyburn added that we were a federal republic?
We are also a government of, by and for the people. Our government is a servant to the will of the people, not the other way around.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:56 AM
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How will you benefit now that CA has banned gay marriages? How do you feel about interracial marriages?

Boy, they sure showed them gays something, huh?
Are you kidding me?

There is no comparison between race and sex. Do you want to tell me there is no difference between a man and a woman?

I'm so sick of hearing this race card argument because it sounds so persuasive yet couldn't be more false. Males and females are inherently different, their brains are different. These differences are significant. There are no inherent differences between races.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:19 AM
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Are you kidding me?
Have you read history when interracial marriages were illegal? Those were some bad times. I feel that eventually the same will happen when gay people will be allowed to marry, and people will look back on today and think that these times were bad in the fact that people were trying to make laws to deny gays the right to pursue "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

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There is no comparison between race and sex. Do you want to tell me there is no difference between a man and a woman?
No, which is why I didn't.

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I'm so sick of hearing this race card argument because it sounds so persuasive yet couldn't be more false. Males and females are inherently different, their brains are different. These differences are significant. There are no inherent differences between races.
There are many biological differences between races. I believe that your statement is somewhat wrong. My comment wasn't to compare races and sexual orientation, but to compare the denials of marriage to both groups based upon social issues.

Some here think the government is too big when they try to take away rights that they have a self-interest in. Yet those same people are all for big government taking away or stifling the rights of citizens that don't live the lifestyle they wish them to.
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