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Old 05-01-2009, 10:37 PM
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For or against?
Maybe a short explanation.

Here (Washington state) you can have the needle, or the noose.
Washington.= Aggravated first-degree murder gets you death here,
defined as this. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=10.95.020

So in my state, I am for it.
Basically, if you kill an on duty cop, firefighter, or a judge, state attorney, etc..
Or you killed somebody while doing any of this.
(a) Robbery in the first or second degree;
(b) Rape in the first or second degree;
(c) Burglary in the first or second degree or residential burglary;
(d) Kidnapping in the first degree; or
(e) Arson in the first degree;

Plus a couple other things
(4) The person committed the murder pursuant to an agreement that he or she would receive money or any other thing of value for committing the murder;
(5) The person solicited another person to commit the murder and had paid or had agreed to pay money or any other thing of value for committing the murder;
(6) The person committed the murder to obtain or maintain his or her membership or to advance his or her position in the hierarchy of an organization, association, or identifiable group;


So yeah, I am for it.
If you do any of those things, I think its safe to say you deserve to die.
For some people sitting in prison is NOT a deterrent, but death is.
I don't know, some people don't deserve for tax payers to support them for the rest of their life, while they get better medical care than some tax payers, etc....
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:38 PM
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Yeah yeah I messed up the poll

Yes = FOR
No = against
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:40 PM
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For.

And For More too....sometimes we just have to take a life in order to vindicate the crime which has been perpetrated.
I especially feel this way over child rape or murder.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:42 PM
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For.

And For More too....sometimes we just have to take a life in order to vindicate the crime which has been perpetrated.
I especially feel this way over child rape or murder.
Yeah..... I know it isn't being "understanding" but I hate that most states consider pedophilia a disease or mental problem and treat it with counselors, etc...

If anybody ever hurt one of my children people would die.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:52 PM
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I am for the death penalty and would fast track it even more than TX does. I say if you are found guilty beyond doubt, we shoot you that afternoon and the other inmates get to bury you. Bullets are cheap and there's no need for a retrial. I am for it because of the retribution aspect and the deterrent factor. If we shot the really bad felons the day they are found guilty, your felony crime rate would drop dramatically. Don't ask me to look up and research numbers though cuz I don't want to and I just don't give a hoot what the whiners say.


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For or against?
So yeah, I am for it.
If you do any of those things, I think its safe to say you deserve to die.
For some people sitting in prison is NOT a deterrent, but death is.
I don't know, some people don't deserve for tax payers to support them for the rest of their life, while they get better medical care than some tax payers, etc....
Do you have any evidence that shows the death penalty is a deterrent? Evidence that I have seen shows it not to be the case. Below is just one link.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:07 AM
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Do you have any evidence that shows the death penalty is a deterrent? Evidence that I have seen shows it not to be the case. Below is just one link.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates
Interesting link.

But does it take into consideration the murder rates in states that have it as opposed to states who don't?

Maybe some states who don't have a smaller murder rate and don't need it as much as states who do and have higher murder rates.
To me, a state having more murders show MORE need for the death penalty.

And honestly, I don't care if it is a deterrent or not,
if you kill people, cops, children, etc... and get convicted of murder 1 and get the death penalty,
well then you certainly don't deserve to live off the state forever.
Do you?

What I am saying is, you go to detention.
Forever... how does that make sense?
You get to hangout, harass cops, be part of a gang, be social, visit your family etc....
your victims don't get to do anything anymore, because they're dead.
Why should you?
and why should WE pay for you to get to do so?
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Interesting link.

But does it take into consideration the murder rates in states that have it as opposed to states who don't?

That's what the link shows.

Maybe some states who don't have a smaller murder rate and don't need it as much as states who do and have higher murder rates.
To me, a state having more murders show MORE need for the death penalty.

And honestly, I don't care if it is a deterrent or not,
if you kill people, cops, children, etc... and get convicted of murder 1 and get the death penalty,
well then you certainly don't deserve to live off the state forever.
Do you?
If you don't care if it is a deterrent, which the link I offered shows it's not, is it just about revenge then?
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:24 AM
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If you don't care if it is a deterrent, which the link I offered shows it's not, is it just about revenge then?
No, its about a few things (for me, I can't speak for everybody).
For me, its about money.
It costs (depending on state, and security level) over 100 dollars to house an inmate, each day.
Taxpayers, are shelling out (at 100 per day) over 36K a year to house an inmate. In most places, a maximum security inmate is more like 150 - 200.
But even a medium (not somebody who was up for death) is around 100.
So you do the math on tax payers dollars.
On a state level that can seriously ad up.
Not to even get into medical costs when inmates get cancer,
or aids, or any other serious ailment that costs us hundreds of thousands of dollars to treat.

Oh, please don't argue that the death penalty is more expensive than life in prison because of appeals,
that has to do with court, and not the act of the death penalty.

Closure for victims family's / justice.
If you're choosing to kill civil servants, children, or viciously kill other human beings to be considered for death,
then what have you offered society for one?
and for two, the victims no longer get to live, why should you?
(at our cost, no less)

Respecting the value of human life: "It is by exacting the highest penalty for the taking of human life that we affirm the highest value of human life." (Edward Koch)

Public safety: Once a convicted murderer is executed, there is no chance that he will break out of jail and kill or injure someone.


Anyway, just to name a few.
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