I'm just curious about something, so when Oscar De La Hoya didn't come off of his stool after round 8 with Manny Pacquaio last December and when Sonny Liston didn't come off of his stool after round 7 in May 1965 against Muhammad Ali (technically, he was "Cassius Clay" at that time), does that mean De La Hoya and Liston did NOT quit?
Throwing in the towel, not coming out to fight another round, etc. = quitting