Originally Posted by Neezar
Provide a safe haven for terrorist.
But thats the issue...we DONT regard everyone wanted by the US as a Terrorist. Those people who plan mass murders, bombers, and wayward islamic preachers we are all for sending to the US if they ask
a retarded computer hacker who ventured into NASA...you know...we dont actually see that as a threat to either ourselves nor yourself...what we actually see is the US need to assert authority simply because someone with harmless intentions managed to embariss them.
What we are actually saying is that the United States has abused this extradition treaty by miss classification for their own gratuitious need to try and cling to Superpower status which they are poised to looose.
Its also not right for any Soverign State to be in bondage to another, Americans of all peoples should understand that its a form of Tyrany to impose your laws onto another populas...it was Wrong when an English King marginalized his collonies rather then Serving them as was his duty...its equally wrong for an American President to dictate British Foreign Policy.
Your History however does lean increadibly towards your Federal Government believing that this type of Tyrany, if done towards them is an act of war, but if done BY them, well its perfectly acceptable as a form of National Security...We've seen that with the United Nations...how America was the impotus to set up a Forum to prevent Imperialism from ever taking the form of Empire again, Binding soverignties by International Law from any Unilateral issues. Yet she is largely incapable of acting by those same rules herself...infact America now hates her own creation...Why? because its doing exactly the job she set it up to do...she just never thought it might actually stop HER imperial tendancies. The irony will never be lost on any European.
Our major problem however has nothing to do with the US, nor Europe...but something called the Apeal Court of Human Rights...That has, EXACTLY like the US, abused its position by claiming that criminals have certain rights that they should no longer be given. When people committ crimes, they should be punished...they should not be permitted to vote, they should not be given X-boxes, they should not be let out early to ease congestion, they should not be allowed to sue the prison service because they cant bloody sleep, or have been hurt by other prisoners whilst in custody. Clearly, to allow those things goes far beyond human rights...it infacts GIVES MORE RIGHTS to those people...How come to take away their X-Box is to deny them their human right should they slip into depression and the quality of their life suffer.. when I work for a living, I am clinically depressed, and where the hell is my ing Xbox????
Do you see?
The US calls anyone it wants a terrorist so it can get them, the Appeals Court of Human Rights makes all things "Rights" to REAL terrorists to stop justice being done, lest its an unpleasent experience for them.
Together, BOTH the American Federation and the European Federation are an affront to Justice and Freedom. The words issued by them both, be it "Freedom" or "Human Rights" are meaningless when they simply can not act responsibly and sensibly
Englands crime is that it fails to stick up for itself. It bends over backwards to comprimise so much so it falls over. Its frightened by its friends, and frightened of its enemies, and strategically plans to stay in the shade of another because it hasnt the balls to say no. We hide behind being older and wiser, when really we are nothing but weaker, and somewhere inside we know that we cant live up to the hype, so we associate ourselves with the elite to appear, by association as one of them, like some kinda tart looking to break the glass ceiling. Its deplorable. Our Politicians are all the same, no matter which party they come from, they try to disband that which is there to add to their moral legitamacy and call it progress, they corrupt themselves with illegal spending, and waste time arguing over who sent what to who in a text message, and what some pompous toff really did say to policeman when enraged. One Spends money it doesnt have, the other is tighter then a penny pincher....and noone really gives a damn about Her Majesty The Queen.