yeah . you could be right ... the pressure was on joe ... but i think he saved some face for obama ...... imo, there were two things that coulda happened .. joe and ryan end up in with a virtual tie or ryan blows joe outta the water and seals the deal ... i think it was the former .. even if joe came out and blew ryan to bits and made him look like a fool, it wouldn't have salvaged the ground obama lost ..
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