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Old 07-14-2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NateR View Post
Well, in the eyes of GOD, you and I are no better than they are.

Here are some of the more notorious serial killers that we know of:

Ted Bundy: serial killer, rapist, kidnapper and necrophile who confessed to 30 homicides across 7 states, but is believed to have killed many more.

Ted Bundy accepted Jesus Christ and became a born-again Christian just before he was executed in 1989.

Ted Bundy is in Heaven with Jesus Christ right now.

Jeffery Dahmer: murdered 17 men and boys and those murders involved rape, dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism.

Jeffery Dahmer became a born-again Christian while in prison and was beaten to death by a fellow inmate in 1994.

Jeffery Dahmer is in Heaven with Jesus Christ right now.

David Berkowitz: the "Son of Sam" killer who killed 6 people and wounded several others over the course of 8 shootings in the 1970s. He claimed that he was commanded to kill those people by a demon that had possessed his neighbor's dog.

David Berkowitz became a born-again Christian in 1987 and is still currently serving his time in prison; but when he dies he will be in Heaven with Jesus Christ.

Every sin that those men committed has been wiped clean. That's the power of Jesus Christ. It also means that we aren't allowed to put ourselves above these people because of what they've done. If you refuse to associate with murderers and rapists, then Heaven will not be the place for you.
....I suppose that you would say those people have been ellected..No?

Regardless of what horrors and evils they committed you would suppose they were destined for Heaven prior to birth...I suppose it was GODs plan to reveal himself to them, and for him to do that, they needed to commit all those crimes in order to see they needed saving?

What about if you "refuse to associate yourself" with liars, adultorers, homosexuals. Most of us will never come into contact with murderers, and probably not with rapists...but we all come into connection with people whose lifestyles in some way involve committing sin. If we associate ourselves with them...will it not spoil our witness? How can we witness to the world, if we then become friends with those knee deep with sin inpepetua?

If you have to keep up a reputation of being GODly and Christian, and you deliberately go out of your way to avoid them, so as to appear more that a sin Nathan? Where do we draw the line between wanting to witness to the world, if that is the ministry GOD has selected for us, and doing his Will, which may also consist of engaging with, and be seen with, those the world would consider not good company for Christians?

Here is another thing...Those people had their "conversions" whilst safely locked up. Would you have been willing to have let them out as an act of forgiveness, to proove that they would be able to "go and sin no more"

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