Well it appears that the friend whom I am referring to has found this thread and was offended. Imagine that me offending someone. However after reading what I posted, even though no names were mentioned, I feel it is appropriate for me to apologize to him and his family. As is typical with my style of conversation my tone was hard and for that I am sorry. The fact is I cannot understand how they feel because I have never been in that particular boat. I pray they find the peace they need and I pray even more they get out of that apostate church.