Originally Posted by Irish Pride
You and Tyburn both pointed out number 1 on your list. I do think that is extremely important. I do think that if you are charging others over being hypocritical that you yourself might be guilty of it, either in your accusation or in other areas of your life. I recognize that nobody can be perfect but Jesus. And I definitely think that confrontation is necessary if it is a person in power with influence over the lives of others. Whether it be through what they preach or their actions in the community.
Definitely points to consider, thank you.
I do not aggree with him about point 2...I think that is a nice way of justifying that its alright to say things you feel are right and upset other people. I also talk from the point of view of having to talk to the people that go through that negative reaction....and I have sometimes been in that situation.
For example. When a Senior Cleric (who has since become a Bishop) made up lies about me at Saint Paul's Cathedral...I had a VERY negative and extreme reaction. That was NOT because the Holy Spirit was "convicting me" it was because I couldnt believe that a Christian Institution of such high standing could try and get away with constructive dissmissal. It put me of Church 3 and a half years...and it made it impossible for me to receive communion for SEVEN years...in which time I have never grown so fast in my spiritual life...so sometimes when people react badly and negatively...it is simply because you have upset them...and I dont think that many are capable of knowing which is conviction, and which is not. I think assuming that all saddness is conviction is a bad move. it puts people off you, off your theology, and rather then saving, pushes people further away.
I am all for telling people the truth, and telling them simply...but I would not try to justify my actions as GODly when they get upset and use that to reinforce my stance...and Nathan has used this argument many times on here over the year...and I will not approve of using that justification.
but points 1 and 3...we can all aggree on