Originally Posted by Dethbob
Is it judgmental to judge someone for judging?
Is judging for hypocrisy OK?
When GOD talks about Judging Others...he doesnt mean Judge like a court with punishment to hurt others...he means that we must ask for the Spirit of Discernment...the ability to know and understand what someone is saying, and then to match that up to a set of criteria in the Bible...that way we cant be deceived.
Discernment is a Spiritual Gift, not to unrelated to the Gift of Interpretation of Tongues. Neither are really valued by the Church...which is why Christians usually end up Rebuking (even if Righteously) rather then Discerning, and then Prophesizing.
Discernment is the link between Tongues and Prophecy. Its half way to receiving Revelation from GOD...which is what Prophecy is...a private revelation between GOD and an individual...which usually places the individual in the unfortunate situation of having to feedback messages to the people and authorities that they do not want to hear....or doing something that will serve the people who are attentive symbolically as a warning. Note...the Judgement comes not from the Prophet but from the Lord...the Prophet is basically acting as a Human Host...A messenger for GOD...just like a Heavenly Host will do.
Except...usually the Heavenly Host get to bring good messages...and the Prophets end up in fear of their lives for reminding people of influence that GOD is watching them.
Once the gift of Prophecy is given...its a learned skill. In the olden days, Prophets used to set up schools. A lot like Mixed Martial Arts Gyms...they would be followed around by their Students and their students would learn how to meditate and how to use their power of discernment to advance GODs Kingdom....the Prophets kinda dissapeared just prior to Christ in Chronology...in Christendom they continued under the now defunct sub-denomination of Roman Catholicism known as The Mystic Contemplatives. Meanwhile the ideas of having a school to teach people how to be "wise" or "learned" or "scholarly" also developed under the Monastic foundations. The Classics took these ideas and they secularized them...thats why you get Philosophers like Aristotle, and Socreties with massive Schools of Philosophy where people come to learn and they are known as "disciples" of their discipline. Meanwhile in the Orient, the same schooling idea appeared but was used to teach other Religious beliefs, Usually Taoism, or Bhudism, or some form of Martial Art...eventually that split to either strictly religious...or as part of a Caste System...like The Samurai for example...who were not just in schools...but actually were a class of society in which people could be born into, and under which certain occupations were expected...usually service in the military or politics before they were so successful they (a lot like the Knights Templar) were disbanded and destroyed to save face with Royalty and Religious Authorites.