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Irish Pride 07-26-2012 01:13 AM

UFC on Fox 4 Main or Co-Main Event to Determine Next Title Contender at 205lbs
 
I thought this was an interesting article because they point out that Jones has already totally destroyed all 3 people that could get a title shot. If that is the case, who do you pair Jones up against? What do you do? Do you bring guys from other weight classes to challenge him? Anderson, Chael, etc? It's kind of a bind...



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UFC on Fox 4 Main or Co-Main Event to Determine Next Title Contender at 205lbs

The common theme with the last two UFC on Fox shows is that the main event could hold title implications for a particular division.

At UFC on Fox 2, Rashad Evans earned a title shot at champion Jon Jones when he defeated Phil Davis in the main event. The same was true at UFC on Fox 3 when Nate Diaz submitted Jim Miller, and now he sits awaiting a shot at the UFC lightweight belt.

It appears the UFC will keep that theme alive with a pair of light heavyweight bouts leading the card at UFC on Fox 4, albeit in a very confusing and befuddling manner.

According to a report from Fox Sports on Wednesday, UFC president Dana White and matchmaker Joe Silva will find the next light heavyweight title contender out of the two main event bouts heading the card in Los Angeles on Aug. 4.

Should Mauricio “Shogun” Rua defeat Brandon Vera in impressive fashion, he’s likely the man who will get the call to next compete for the UFC light heavyweight title. If Rua loses or doesn’t shine the way most expect him to against opponent Brandon Vera then the UFC will turn its attention to the co-main event bout between Lyoto Machida and Ryan Bader.

“These fighters have a huge opportunity to show the world why they deserve to fight for the UFC title next,” White said in an email to Fox Sports. “Winning isn’t enough at UFC on Fox. This division is so competitive these fighters have to look great to separate themselves from the pack.

“I’m expecting all of these guys to go all-out to prove why they should be next in line for a title shot.”

This move can only be received with more than a few puzzling looks and raised eyebrows when considering whom the UFC light heavyweight champion is right now.

Jon “Bones” Jones stands as the reigning and defending champion at 205 pounds and he’s blasted through all three of the potential names that could earn a title shot at next weekend’s UFC on Fox 4 card.

Jones submitted Bader in early 2011 to earn a title shot against then champion Shogun, who he then dismantled and destroyed via TKO to claim the title in March of last year.

Jones then met former champion Machida in December 2011 and proceeded to choke him unconscious via guillotine to wrap up his second consecutive title defense.

Obviously Jones’ standing as champion could change because he has a title fight already scheduled for Sept. 1 in Las Vegas at UFC 151. He faces former Pride and Strikeforce champion Dan Henderson. Should Henderson win, that throws a whole new spin on the title picture.

The key thing to remember with all of the “No. 1 contender” talk with this show is the fact that the UFC has on numerous occasions in the past stated that a fight would determine the next title challenger only to change their minds after the night was over.

Jon Fitch was in a No. 1 contender’s bout against Thiago Alves at UFC 117 in 2010, but following his victory he never actually received the nod for a title shot.

That’s just one of many instances where a fighter or bout was intended to determine a No. 1 contender and eventually the UFC shifted gears after the fact.

With the UFC on Fox 4 show just over a week away, the title talk certainly adds an extra layer of drama to the fights on the card, but don’t expect any of the winners in the two main events to be handed a championship contract upon exiting the Octagon that night.

Link: http://www.mmaweekly.com/ufc-on-fox-...-lyoto-machida

Bonnie 07-26-2012 09:03 AM

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The key thing to remember with all of the “No. 1 contender” talk with this show is the fact that the UFC has on numerous occasions in the past stated that a fight would determine the next title challenger only to change their minds after the night was over.

Jon Fitch was in a No. 1 contender’s bout against Thiago Alves at UFC 117 in 2010, but following his victory he never actually received the nod for a title shot.

That’s just one of many instances where a fighter or bout was intended to determine a No. 1 contender and eventually the UFC shifted gears after the fact.
Is Dana putting that "Winning isn't enough..." out there so he doesn't look like he's reneging if he doesn't give the winner a title shot?--like what happened to Fitch.

Irish Pride 07-26-2012 12:12 PM

Basically yes. In the article it says their performance has to be impressive. :wink:

JavierDLC 07-26-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pride (Post 193366)
Basically yes. In the article it says their performance has to be impressive. :wink:

I think that is complete BS! The sport is about competing in who is the best! Who wins and who loses. Its not about who is the flashiest!!

Yeah I would definitely prefer an exciting Barn Burner of a fight over a Lay n Pray decision but the whole concept is who wins and who loses.

VCURamFan 07-26-2012 03:41 PM

They seem to be ignoring the fact that Jones also smashed the crap outta Vera.

Irish Pride 07-26-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VCURamFan (Post 193372)
They seem to be ignoring the fact that Jones also smashed the crap outta Vera.

It looked like if Vera won he wouldn't even be considered for a title shot.

Bonnie 07-26-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JavierDLC (Post 193371)
I think that is complete BS! The sport is about competing in who is the best! Who wins and who loses. Its not about who is the flashiest!!

Yeah I would definitely prefer an exciting Barn Burner of a fight over a Lay n Pray decision but the whole concept is who wins and who loses.

I agree with you, Javi. I think Dana's personal likes and dislikes regarding some fighters comes into play with his decisions, and I feel it's unprofessional. He tells these guys, "Whoever wins will get a title shot.", and then the winner doesn't get it, why, because the guy he really wanted for the title fight didn't end up winning?

Look at how he maneuvered Nick Diaz into place while jerking Condit every which way a while back.

Just my thoughts... :wink:

Bonnie 07-26-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VCURamFan (Post 193372)
They seem to be ignoring the fact that Jones also smashed the crap outta Vera.

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Originally Posted by Irish Pride (Post 193373)
It looked like if Vera won he wouldn't even be considered for a title shot.

Is anybody else surprised by this Rua/Vera match-up? Where did that come from?

Irish Pride 07-27-2012 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnie (Post 193383)
Is anybody else surprised by this Rua/Vera match-up? Where did that come from?

Well...yes, but at the same time no not really lol

1. I think they want Shogun to get back on track so they gave Vera.
2. The LHW roster isn't all that big. I went on the UFC website to see the list of fighters the other day and...well who DO you have Shogun face?

Bonnie 07-27-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pride (Post 193391)
Well...yes, but at the same time no not really lol

1. I think they want Shogun to get back on track so they gave Vera.
2. The LHW roster isn't all that big. I went on the UFC website to see the list of fighters the other day and...well who DO you have Shogun face?

I just went and looked. They've got lots of people on that list he hasn't fought, surely some would be good match-ups. What about Bonnar or Bader?


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