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flo 07-02-2011 08:34 PM

UFC 132 Cut List
UFC 132 Cut List: Who needs a win to stay?


Tito Ortiz (15-8-1, 14-8-1 UFC)

Who he's fighting: Ryan Bader
Why he's in danger: Come on, you know why. As Dana White pointed out on Thursday, Ortiz doesn't have a win since 2006. As White put it: "Dude, it's 2011. He's got to win." Really, the fact that he has made it this long is a miracle, or at least a testament to the power of charisma and name recognition. Ortiz is 0-4-1 in his last five fights. The last man he beat? Ken freaking Shamrock. If Ortiz were anybody else, he'd be long gone from the UFC by now. The irony is that, while it's his Tito-ness that's helped him stick around, it's also his Tito-ness that has made him White's least favorite employee. They could find a way to work together when Ortiz was still a money-maker, but the more he loses, the less people want to see him. Now he finds himself in a must-win against Bader, who is, honestly, a pretty tough style match-up for him at this point. It's almost as if the UFC is trying to hasten his exit -- and maybe it's finally time for him to go.
Odds of getting cut: even. Let's face it, Ortiz is probably going to lose this fight. And if he does, he's certainly getting fired, or so says White. Do the math yourself. Remember to show your work.

Aaron Simpson (8-2, 4-2 UFC)

Who he's fighting: Brad Tavares
Why he's in danger: For Simpson, the problem is not so much a parade of losses as it is a couple defeats matched with a few less than inspiring wins. He has a couple of exciting fights on his record -- a split decision win over Tom Lawlor, a TKO loss to Chris Leben -- but when he has it his way, he typically prefers to put his wrestling skills to work and grind one out. We all know how the UFC feels about that approach, so the question is, if he loses to the undefeated Tavares, will that be reason enough to send him on his merry way?
Odds of getting cut: 4-1. Don't get me wrong, Simpson needs this win. Another loss and he'll drop to 1-3 in his last four. But unless he looks absolutely awful, he should be able to pull the old 'Please baby, give me one more chance' and keep his job.

Andre Winner (11-5-1, 2-3 UFC)

Who he's fighting: Anthony Njokuani
Why he's in danger: One more loss and Winner will have the dreaded three-fight losing streak on his hands. I know, the last one was in a bizarre way kind of, sort of not his fault in many people's eyes, since he got trapped against the fence by Nik Lentz for three boring rounds. Still, if you can stop a guy from doing that to you, how much of a future do you really have in the UFC? It's sad, too, because Winner once had so much promise. He was a real blue-chipper on TUF, then lost the finale and has been up and down ever since. If he's going to make his case as a legitimate UFC lightweight, he's got to do it now. The question is, can he?
Odds of getting cut: 2-1. This is a winnable fight, but by no means an easy one. At least Winner knows Njokuani won't try to stall him in a clinch, which is a start.

Anthony Njokuani (13-5-1, 0-1 UFC)

Who he's fighting: Andre Winner
Why he's in danger: Njokuani ended his WEC run with a 1-2 stint, then rolled right into the UFC with a decision loss. Fortunately for him, that loss came in a thrilling effort that earned him a Fight of the Night bonus. If you have to lose in the UFC, that's definitely the way you want to do it. Then again, a loss is still a loss, and you don't want to make a habit out of it. Njokuani has earned himself some leeway because of his exciting fighting style, but he's still after that elusive first UFC win. Even if he doesn't get it against Winner, he'll probably get one more chance to shine. Still, with a loss here the situation goes from troubling to desperate.
Odds of getting cut: 5-1. His fight with Barboza earned him some goodwill with the UFC brass, so chances are he's not going anywhere, win or lose. Probably still a good idea to win, though. Just saying.

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VCURamFan 07-02-2011 09:08 PM

I'm kinda surprised they didn't list Wanderlei on here. He's lost 4 of his last 5...

Spiritwalker 07-02-2011 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by VCURamFan (Post 170811)
I'm kinda surprised they didn't list Wanderlei on here. He's lost 4 of his last 5...

UFC 132: Wanderlei Silva will have a job forever because the fans love to watch him fight


At the crossroads of sports and entertainment sits a man, comfortable in the knowledge that he's safe in his position.

He's exactly the type of fighter fans love to love, a throwback to the old school, a talented yet deeply flawed individual who has all the right misgivings to make him so endearing.

Honestly, why wouldn't you cheer for Wanderlei Silva?

That's what he feeds off, the bright lights and big crowds he grew accustomed to in Japan while he was the king of the mountain in Pride. He spilled blood in those rings, all the while sending dozens of challengers to the hospital after a short time exchanging punches with him.

When he brought his voracious style to the States, the fans followed in droves. Despite his lack of success and seemingly grim future, he continues to receive the loudest ovation whenever he enters the room.

That's why he has job security. Because he hears that and it drives him to give the world what they want to see, to keep the fans coming back for more.

"You have a lot of kind of fighters. You have fighters that are safe. Some open their game. My real boss is my fans," Silva told Josh Gross of ESPN. "My fans put me there. If my fans don't want me, Dana [White] won't put me there. The boss is the fans. And the fans like to watch me, I'll have a job forever. I'm not afraid to lose. No, I like to go in there and do what I want to do. For me, I like the show. Of course I fight to win, but I like the show. If I make my fans happy, I'm happy."

Indeed, Silva has been electrifying fans since all the way back in Nov. 1996, when he debuted as a professional against Dilson Filho and won by knockout in the very first round.

It was the first of many.

However, even in defeat, the Brazilian manages to bring the world to its collective feet. He's just 2-5 in his last seven bouts but who will ever forget the war he waged against Chuck Liddell back in Dec. 2007?

Or the three-round classic he put on opposite Rich Franklin in the first ever Zuffa show held in Germany in June 2009?

His three knockout losses during that span are all just as memorable. He was felled by a Mirko "Cro Cop" head kick, a trademark "H-bomb" from Dan Henderson, and a left hook from hell from Quinton Jackson.

All completely unforgettable.

Sure, Silva is 34-years-old now and has seen better days. You don't go through 45 wars without accruing a few battle scars along the way.

But he sees the glass as half-full. "The Axe Murderer" hasn't been inside the cage since his middleweight debut in Australia in Feb. 2010, a decision victory over Michael Bisping, who may or may not be on the cusp of a title shot of his own.

That's something to hang his hat on and what's to say his old bones don't have a few knockouts left in them? What if he goes out this Saturday night (July 2, 2011) at UFC 132 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada and sends Chris Leben down Queer Street?

The truth? The answer doesn't really matter.

That's because Wanderlei Silva will always have a job because Wanderlei Silva always gives fans exactly what they want to see.

Are you not entertained?

flo 07-02-2011 11:00 PM

I don't know whether he should be on the list or not. I like him a whole lot better than Tito, however, and I think he has more fight left as well.

Nice find, Spirit, I think that article is right - at least, I still find him very entertaining and just a cool guy personally.

Now if only he had knocked Bisping's block off...



VCURamFan 07-02-2011 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by flo (Post 170815)
I don't know whether he should be on the list or not. I like him a whole lot better than Tito, however, and I think he has more fight left as well.

Nice find, Spirit, I think that article is right - at least, I still find him very entertaining and just a cool guy personally.

Now if only he had knocked Bisping's block off...



Hahaha, there's a great line from the Q&A yesterday that Matt says about Tito. :laugh:

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