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Tyburn 03-11-2011 12:02 PM

My Birthday Wish: Letter to UFC about Jens Pulver and The HOF
 
I've made this a poll...but please, wipe your mind clear of me and my association, listen purely to the letter, and THEN vote.

I sent this to the President, to the VP, and also to the Owners of the insitution. They should by now have all received their copies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh09UKQup4o

VCURamFan 03-11-2011 12:04 PM

I can't watch videos at work. Could you post the body of the letter here for us to read?

Spiritwalker 03-11-2011 12:36 PM

He should be in the HoF.. If only for the reason that he was the first.. LW champion in the UFC... There are a few other reasons.. but he was the first champ.. and should he go and lose 14 out of his next 15 fights... nothing changes that.

Vizion 03-11-2011 12:43 PM

I voted no.



















not :tongue0011:

J.B. 03-11-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritwalker (Post 157240)
He should be in the HoF.. If only for the reason that he was the first.. LW champion in the UFC... There are a few other reasons.. but he was the first champ.. and should he go and lose 14 out of his next 15 fights... nothing changes that.

Should Frank Shamrock get the same treatment?

Spiritwalker 03-11-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J.B. (Post 157246)
Should Frank Shamrock get the same treatment?

I saw no.. because while he was the first to win the LHW title... (LHW????).. he has publicly put down the UFC.. and the management...

and his hypocrisy in his actions are really a bad "ambassador" for the sport...

Dethbob 03-11-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.B. (Post 157246)
Should Frank Shamrock get the same treatment?

MMA hall of fame, absolutely, UFC hall of fame, no. He did some really cool stuff in the UFC, but he did not stay long and did most of his work in other orgs.

JavierDLC 03-11-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritwalker (Post 157253)
I saw no.. because while he was the first to win the LHW title... (LHW????).. he has publicly put down the UFC.. and the management...

and his hypocrisy in his actions are really a bad "ambassador" for the sport...

Agreed I really dislike his stupid Anti-UFC rants :angry:

Tyburn 03-11-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethbob (Post 157261)
MMA hall of fame, absolutely, UFC hall of fame, no. He did some really cool stuff in the UFC, but he did not stay long and did most of his work in other orgs.

There is no such thing as an MMA Hall of Fame though. :unsure-1: Besides...that would be too vast I think.

I still say his power of the mob, and his ability to have pioneered three weight classes, and get them all from unrecognised, to the full UFC in a decade...warrents his inclusion.

Look at it this way...Removing all things Pulver, would have made WEC vanish when the heavies in it were disbanded, and it would cause three divisions of the UFC to vanish into thin air...that quite likely could have been the scenario if Jens Pulver hadnt almost single handedly championed their cause for about five years before they became really popular.

He's much more then the first lightweight champion...he's kinda responsible for the sports acceptance of EVERYTHING below 170lbs. You could argue that the Orient developed slightly differently...and he would feature, but only alongside Kid Yamamoto in areas like shooto, rings, and pride...but thankfully, we CAN ignore that for the purposes of an appeal to the UFC :laugh:

Dethbob 03-11-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyburn (Post 157265)
There is no such thing as an MMA Hall of Fame though. :unsure-1: Besides...that would be too vast I think.

I still say his power of the mob, and his ability to have pioneered three weight classes, and get them all from unrecognised, to the full UFC in a decade...warrents his inclusion.

Look at it this way...Removing all things Pulver, would have made WEC vanish when the heavies in it were disbanded, and it would cause three divisions of the UFC to vanish into thin air...that quite likely could have been the scenario if Jens Pulver hadnt almost single handedly championed their cause for about five years before they became really popular.

He's much more then the first lightweight champion...he's kinda responsible for the sports acceptance of EVERYTHING below 170lbs. You could argue that the Orient developed slightly differently...and he would feature, but only alongside Kid Yamamoto in areas like shooto, rings, and pride...but thankfully, we CAN ignore that for the purposes of an appeal to the UFC :laugh:

I was referring to Frank, not Jens. I agree with everything you’ve said about Jens, and I did vote ‘yes’ on him being included in the HOF.

As for Frank, I know there is no MMA hall of fame, but if there was, he would definitely rate. I just don’t think he’s ‘UFC’ enough to qualify for their HOF.


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