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Spiritwalker 02-06-2011 04:43 AM

Jon Jones...(spolier)
 
DOES NOT NEED TO BE FIGHTING FOR THE TITLE...

He hasn't earned it.. no way.. now how.

I like the guy.. a buddy of mine knows him... and he is a GREAT guy.. but he does NOT need to get that shot... maybe put him up against Rampage or Lyoto.. THEN.. if he wins.. sure...

rockdawg21 02-06-2011 05:27 AM

I agree, love the guy, much respect to him and all, but 1 fight against a former champ would be the way to go. I figured the winner of Bader/Jones would face the winner for Rampage/Silva with the winner getting the shot at Rua.

Nonetheless, that's the fight they chose and I wish Jon Jones all the best.

Llamafighter 02-06-2011 05:38 AM

They needed an opponent for Shogun and Jones had no injuries. I'm actually more excited for this fight than Evans vs Shogun.

Maldonado136 02-06-2011 07:53 AM

He can win. I'm not saying he will but he can. Shogun isn't great when coming off of a surgery. Just watch his fights with Forrest and Coleman.

County Mike 02-06-2011 12:51 PM

I think Jones does deserve the shot. He's been running through everyone in the division and he's exciting. This fight will sell more tickets than Rashad/Shogun and that's really what it's all about. I know I'll be watching.

Spiritwalker 02-06-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rockdawg21 (Post 150938)
I agree, love the guy, much respect to him and all, but 1 fight against a former champ would be the way to go. I figured the winner of Bader/Jones would face the winner for Rampage/Silva with the winner getting the shot at Rua.

Nonetheless, that's the fight they chose and I wish Jon Jones all the best.

Agreed...

But look at Jon's record...outside of the 3 in red.. who has he fought that is "contender material"... he hasn't even fought a guy that fought for the belt and lost.. let alone a top 10 contender...


Ryan Bader
Vladimir Matyushenko
Brandon Vera
Matt Hamill

Jake O'Brien
Stephan Bonnar
Andre Gusmao
Moyses Gabin
Parker Porter
Ryan Verrett
Anthony Pina
Carlos Eduardo
Brad Bernard

adamt 02-06-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritwalker (Post 150926)
DOES NOT NEED TO BE FIGHTING FOR THE TITLE...

He hasn't earned it.. no way.. now how.

I like the guy.. a buddy of mine knows him... and he is a GREAT guy.. but he does NOT need to get that shot... maybe put him up against Rampage or Lyoto.. THEN.. if he wins.. sure...

rashad has what? 15 wins over half are decisions....
jones has 11 wins and 2 are decisions, 7 are ko/tkos

who would you rather watch fight? who deserves a title fight more--- the guy with a loss and two decision wins his last three fights, or a guy with a sub and two first round tkos in his last three fights


rashad is a bigger blacker version of gsp, and i am a gsp fan, but he def fights safe, fights to win not to stop and fights for money..... he is a greg jackson fighter


get jones in there before he gets safe i say

and shame on anyone who hates on gsp's style/fights and complains about this matchup

adamt 02-06-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritwalker (Post 150963)
Agreed...

But look at Jon's record...outside of the 3 in red.. who has he fought that is "contender material"... he hasn't even fought a guy that fought for the belt and lost.. let alone a top 10 contender...


Ryan Bader
Vladimir Matyushenko
Brandon Vera
Matt Hamill

Jake O'Brien
Stephan Bonnar
Andre Gusmao
Moyses Gabin
Parker Porter
Ryan Verrett
Anthony Pina
Carlos Eduardo
Brad Bernard


look at lyotos record two back to back losses, how can he be a contender?


and besides machida and jackson are booked

anyways i am sick and tired of seeing jackson rua machida and rashad fight each other, they're just trading fights, it's getting old

somebody new needs to be brought in, the current guys are gettin lame, and the old guys are ....well... old

let's shake it up

Spiritwalker 02-06-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamt (Post 150964)
rashad has what? 15 wins over half are decisions....
jones has 11 wins and 2 are decisions, 7 are ko/tkos

It's not the quality of the wins... it's the quality of the fighters that Jones has won against.

Quote:

who would you rather watch fight? who deserves a title fight more--- the guy with a loss and two decision wins his last three fights, or a guy with a sub and two first round tkos in his last three fights
Well...there are other fighters out there that have earned it...
But instead of saying who do you want to see fight for the title... how about .. who should be fighting for the #1 spot...
Jons vs Forrest
Jons vs Franklin.. either of those two makes great sense...
Jackson.. sure.. but not sure where Rampage is at now...
Thiago Silva makes ALL the sense in the world to me...
How about Lyoto.. winner gets a shot.. Granted.. I am biased to Lyoto...

All make more sense than giving Jones a shot at the belt...

Quote:

rashad is a bigger blacker version of gsp, and i am a gsp fan, but he def fights safe, fights to win not to stop and fights for money..... he is a greg jackson fighter
I don't see that... I am a Rashad hater... but he goes out and fights... doesn't lay back and wait...

Spiritwalker 02-06-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamt (Post 150965)
look at lyotos record two back to back losses, how can he be a contender?

He lost to the current champ.. that puts him in a #1 spot...he lost to 'Page... that still keeps him in the top 5.. and many people felt he won that fight.. I don't.. but many do.



Quote:

and besides machida and jackson are booked
Lyoto/Randy.. man.. still can't believe that fight is happening. But it's a nothing fight in regards to standings.... Lyoto wins.. don't do much.. Randy wins.. he won't be making a title run...

Quote:

anyways i am sick and tired of seeing jackson rua machida and rashad fight each other, they're just trading fights, it's getting old
I would love to see Rashad/Lyoto fight again..


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