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Play The Man 04-08-2010 03:33 AM

Another Muslim Airline Bomber
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/0...ight-thwarted/

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All I’ve got so far is Twitter reports from CNN and NBC (via Breaking News) reporting that a guy tried to detonate explosives by lighting a fuse in his shoes on a flight from D.C. to Denver. Gabe Malor, who has his own source and who actually had this story posted before the news services did, has more details claiming that the alleged perp has a diplomatic passport from Qatar, but I haven’t seen that confirmed anywhere else.

Stand by for updates, needless to say.

Update: CNN now backtracking, saying all they’ve confirmed so far is an “airport disturbance.” If you’re wondering whether Reagan National Airport has the new full-body scanners that were rolled out after Abdulmutallab’s attempted attack, the answer apparently is affirmative.

Update: Your alleged bomber is Mohammed al-Modadi.

Authorities say an explosive team is on the way to the airport, and that while the presence of explosives has not yet been confirmed, they believe it was an attempted “shoe bomb.”

The suspect was identified by authorities as a diplomat in the Qatar embassy in Washington, Mohammed al Modadi. The FBI said the man had full diplomat immunity as the 3rd secretary and vice-consul.

Fighter jets were scrambled to escort the plane in. If not for the air marshals on board who tackled him…

Update: NBC has a story up too but without much detail. Note this:

The latest incident comes a week after the United States announced new security measures to replace the mandatory screening of air travelers from 14 countries that had angered some allies when it was imposed after a failed bombing on Christmas Day.

The measures were designed to significantly reduce the number of passengers pulled aside for additional screening and will not be based on nationality or passport, but on characteristics pulled together by intelligence agencies.

Well, Qatar wasn’t among the 14 countries designated for special screening and in any case this flight originated from inside the U.S., not abroad.

flo 04-08-2010 03:42 AM

Holy cow! This guy was a diplomat!

Update from our local news (Seattle)

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Al Modadi had full diplomatic immunity as the third secretary and vice-consul, the FBI told ABC News
http://www.komonews.com/news/90168112.html

Thanks for the story, PTM, first I heard about this incident. Interesting how this happens during our lively debate in the Political Section...

Bonnie 04-08-2010 03:55 AM

Our men and women are over in Iraq and Afghanistan putting their lives on the line in the war on terrorism, and we just let them walk right on in to the country with their diplomatic immunity. This is the kind of stuff that just reconfirms to me it's not a matter of "if" we will be attacked again on our own soil on the scale of or greater than 9/11, but it's just a matter of "when" and "where".

Black Mamba 04-08-2010 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnie (Post 109559)
Our men and women are over in Iraq and Afghanistan putting their lives on the line in the war on terrorism, and we just let them walk right on in to the country with their diplomatic immunity. This is the kind of stuff that just reconfirms to me it's not a matter of "if" we will be attacked again on our own soil on the scale of or greater than 9/11, but it's just a matter of "when" and "where".

I concur.

And sadly, I think the next attack is going to be worse than 9/11. I've read online that the higher peeps are concerned about nuclear threats. I seriously think we shouldn't be all that concerned about nuclear or dirty bombs. It's important, but we (US) should be even more concerned about chemical and biological attacks. It is SO EASY to make chemicals, and obtain nasty biological agents. Not to mention a heck of lot cheaper.

Think about it: most of our labs in the US don't have the best of security. It be easy to walk in, snatch some stuff, and walk out. Shoot, I was able to snatch some small vials HCL, Nitric Acid, and Acetic acid in my freshman year. But we have a no fly zone over a stadium during the Super Bowl, but no no fly zones over nuclear power plants. Go figure that.

Play The Man 04-08-2010 04:33 AM

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Update: On MSNBC, Pete Williams says they haven’t found any explosives in his shoes yet and thinks it might be a huge misunderstanding. Supposedly al-Modadi got up to use the bathroom around 30 minutes before the flight landed; he was in there for awhile and when he came out an air marshal smelled smoke. When the marshal asked him what he was doing in the bathroom, al-Modadi supposedly said, “I was trying to light my shoes on fire.” In fact, he might have simply been having a cigarette and responding sarcastically, which I guess the marshal didn’t pick up on. Again, this is all from Williams. I’ll update when I see something contradictory. Incidentally, until a few minutes ago, MSNBC.com’s own headline for this story was “NBC News: Airline bombing foiled.” Now it’s “NBC: Passenger subdued aboard United jet.”

Update: The story at MSNBC.com has the details I just mentioned in the last update.

Update: Greta is also reporting that no explosives have been found and that the smoke in the bathroom might have been al-Modadi’s attempt to, ahem, “cover up another smell.”

Update: ABC has updated and they’re leaning towards the same explanation now as NBC. What we may be looking at here is the scariest smoke break in aviation history:

A US security official said, “it may have been a massive misunderstanding” and the diplomat’s statement may have been a “sarcastic” comment when he was confronted by two air marshals who had been told by flight attendants that smoke was coming from the lavatory.

It looks like this may have been a false alarm. Let us hope so.

NateR 04-08-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Play The Man (Post 109572)
It looks like this may have been a false alarm. Let us hope so.

If that was the case, then it was a very bad joke and the guy should have his status as a diplomat revoked and be sent back to his home country.

Bonnie 04-08-2010 05:13 AM

If he did say that about "...trying to light his shoes on fire", trying to be sarcastic, it's his own fault if there was any misunderstanding. Surely he's intelligent enough to realize no one would take that as a "joke" sarcastic or not. I thought the airlines had banned smoking on airplanes; if so, they should fine his *** just for that, but they probably won't. Instead they'll probably be kissing it, bending over backwards, saying how sorry they are for the "misunderstanding". :wink:

Bonnie 04-08-2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NateR (Post 109587)
If that was the case, then it was a very bad joke and the guy should have his status as a diplomat revoked and be sent back to his home country.

Nate, they've probably already given him free tickets for him and his family to visit Disney World.

NateR 04-08-2010 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnie (Post 109591)
Nate, they've probably already given him free tickets for him and his family to visit Disney World.

Yeah, he is a Muslim and GOD forbid we say anything negative about Muslims or actually expect them to be held accountable for their actions, lest we be labeled as xenophobic or racist. :rolleyes:

donaldbreland 04-08-2010 05:47 AM

I learned that Muslims are good people. It's the Americans we should worry about.


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