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Tyburn 02-19-2009 12:13 AM

Echo of Diana, The Queen that never was

Her name was Charlotte. She was The Princess of Wales. Her father, who had been The Prince of Wales asscended to the Throne of England as George Forth. He'd been married at one time before sitting on the Throne, and she was his only Child (inside of wedlock)

Her Father wished that she marry William of Orange, but she refused, and instead eventually married Leopold Saxe Coburg. He would, later, after her death, become Leopold First of Belgium.

in 1817 after having two misscarriages in an otherwise perfect marriage, she conceved a male. Apparently she was very much loved and the press stalked her writing daily about her movements whilst pregnant.

At this time in British Medical History Women Midwives were being turfed out by Male Midwives who had better training. The Royals chose the Latter choice for Charlottes care. The main problem with Female Midwives had with the male Midwives was the fact they used a new technique known as Forcepts Delivery. This was seen as not good, and highly criticised.

Thus when Charlotte entered a 50 hour labour, 2 weeks overdue, the Male Midwife did not use Forcepts when perhaps he should have. Sadly Her male Heir was Still-Born. Bad enough it was dead, so terrible and distressing that it was a Male Heir to the First in line for the Throne prior to her asscension, and in a loving marriage.

So heart broken, but in high spirits, Charlotte rested after the birth. A slumber she never awoke from. Overnight she suffered a bleed and died. Two generations of Royal Heirs lost overnight.

Leopold, only an English Royal by marriage went on to Rule Belguim, Founding his very own Continental Monarchy. He later Remaried, moved to the United States and reared a full family, one of which became Empress Carlotta of Mexico :laugh:

Her death was taken as a National Tragedy. The shops were shut across the country in an act of mourning for nearly 14 days. Such a young Princess, within such a loving marriage, with a male heir, had been set to rise to the Kingdom, overnight the whole family was wipedout and no direct descendant to the Throne.

Although George had more then Ten Children, half were illigitamate, and the other half were two old to conceive or rumoured to be infertile. It was left to The Duke of Kent, who by the time of George forths death had only produced a Female.

That Female would become the longest reigning Monarch of English History

HM Queen Victoria.

TexasRN 02-19-2009 11:43 AM

Hmmm. I actually found that quite interesting. I love the history of the British monarchy. This was one story I hadn't heard before.


Tyburn 02-19-2009 01:44 PM

:) Thanks, everyone forgets about Charlotte. You see,

The House of Hanover could still have been Rulling today, had Charlotte Ascended followed by a Male Heir. Potentially thats almost a possible century of Rule you had.

Interestingly, when Victoria died, the Next House was "Saxe Coburg" The default line that had married into the Family through Charlotte, it was the Continental hereditry of Belgium and Germanic Origins, the mixing of lines so recently with Germany.

The House of actually STILL Saxe Coburg today! King George changed his name in 1917.

I hasten to say there was a small gap of Seven years between George Forth and his death, and Victoria. She was extremely young on the throne, in order to get William they had to go to the Sons of the Brother of the previous Monarch...he died after seven years in Office, he also had nothing but illegitamte children...soooo Victoria was the closest relative. A niece :laugh:

Now Saxe Coburg re-enters the Royal scene because Victoria married Albert Saxe Coburg! as in a relation to Leopold Saxe Coburg. A Royal proclamation was made after the First World War by the King saying he was changing his name because of its ties to Germany and Belgium

Truely, the most recent influx of Royal Blood is Germanic :mellow: Changing the name of their house by Depol WONT change the blood line. Its still Germanic along the MALE line because of Who victoria married and because her SON then rulled.

Now When Elizabeth married Prince you wanna know what HIS name is?? "Schliswig holstein Sonderburr Glucksburg" Philip is unwell at this present time. Really..unwell :unsure-1:

She decided to declaire him a Windsor instead of founding a new house based on...the above :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: She can do that at her pleasure because he is only her Husband...he is not the King, because he married the Queen, that means he's only a Royal by Marriage...the family line passes through her not him. Although...they do have children together so he is now grafted into the future of the Royal line. It would be customery for her to Honour him in English Tradition by keeping HIS name...but...for obvious and sensible reasons...she decided against it hahahaha

Crisco 02-19-2009 02:12 PM

Which was the royal with ties to The nazi party? He was a duke or some such no?

Tyburn 02-19-2009 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Crisco
Which was the royal with ties to The nazi party? He was a duke or some such no?

The Duke of Windsor. :huh:

He was a King of England who abdicated in 1936. King Edward (Eight) Saxe-Coburg. He was the son of George Five (the guy who changed his name to Windsor after World War One to try and distance himself from Germany) and sat on the throne for ONE year.

It is thought that once Hitler had taken England, he would probably use Edward as his governer for the Island, re-instate him as King. They were friends, Adolf Hitler and Edward Saxe-Coburg (Windsor)

Prince Philip (who married the Queen, who took to the throne in the 1950s) had a relative in the SS apparently. probably not a close relative, but all the same, a bit embarissing for the Husband of the present Queen.

Did I tell you Philip is unwell :unsure-1: You know the Royals are unwell when they start to cancel engagements. It usually means they are VERY unwell. They are both getting Elderly :mellow:

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