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Vizion 04-29-2009 12:07 AM

Texas: secession?
 
Should Texas secede??

I find it interesting to see America is splitting down the middle on every other issue...we are TOO BIG, and our government SUCKS. America, thanks to the liberals and socilaists is fast becoming an unhealthy place to raise children as well. Now we have a polarizing Marxist president who has outspent every single president in America's history. I personally think it is just a matter of tyme before Texas becomes its own nation again. Check out this link below for a good FAQ

http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm

"Texas is a free and independent State ... All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."
Texas Constitution (1876)

"Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever government becomes destructive to life, liberty, or property [i.e., the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it... It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
American Declaration of Independence (1776)

NateR 04-29-2009 03:19 AM

I voted that they should, but I don't think they ever will.

rockdawg21 04-29-2009 03:23 AM

I voted yes, but I don't think we will either. If the government continues on this path of bankrupting itself and pressing a socialist agenda, it's highly likely to gain support, not just here, but with other states following Texas' lead.

If there's any time in my life this is going to happen, I'd say it's within the next 3.5 years.

Crisco 04-29-2009 02:11 PM

I voted no.

To do so now without just cause is just plan treason.

This country has not gone far enough down the hill to require any state to leave the union.

In the event there is a drastic move towards socialism I would lead the march to leave and I would stand on the front line to defend the newly formed America against it's former self.

xSubmission 04-29-2009 09:32 PM

I dislike how Texas likes to use the death penalty alot. I wouldent mind if they left the union but i wouldent move there unless they changed their capital punishment laws

Miss Foxy 04-29-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xSubmission
I dislike how Texas likes to use the death penalty alot. I wouldent mind if they left the union but i wouldent move there unless they changed their capital punishment laws

Why you planning on getting in trouble oh young one? Follow the law and you got nothing to fear my friend...:)

xSubmission 04-29-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Foxy
Why you planning on getting in trouble oh young one? Follow the law and you got nothing to fear my friend...:)

Its not that....I am strongly against capital punishment.
Not only does it desensitize people to death but it shows a total lack of respect for human life

Miss Foxy 04-29-2009 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSubmission
Its not that....I am strongly against capital punishment.
Not only does it desensitize people to death but it shows a total lack of respect for human life

I respect that. I was kidding. I am for it as long as there is clear enough evidence like DNA not just some eye witness with a bad past. Unfortunately to balance things we need good/bad... :wink:

xSubmission 04-29-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Foxy
I respect that. I was kidding. I am for it as long as there is clear enough evidence like DNA not just some eye witness with a bad past. Unfortunately to balance things we need good/bad... :wink:

I think someone can seek redemption for no matter what they have done. And can be forgiven no matter how terrible a crime they committed. I believe they can be rehabilitated and contribute positively to society

VCURamFan 04-29-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSubmission
Its not that....I am strongly against capital punishment.
Not only does it desensitize people to death but it shows a total lack of respect for human life

What textbook are you quoting? That's total horse-hockey.

The Death Penalty is there because of respect for human life. If your disrespect human life enough to destroy it, you lose your right to your own life.

Also, bear in mind that the death penalty is an option in every murder, or even every 1st degree murder. You're only eligible for the death penalty if you commit capital murder (i.e. multiple victims, serial killers, etc.), abd even then you go through an entire second trial with a brand new jury to see whether or not you'll be condemned to death. It's called a bifurcated jury system.

Go do some real research & get back to me, boy.


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