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Chris F 04-13-2009 05:50 PM

Pastors and the hate crime laws
 
Clergy in the crosshairs

Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 4/13/2009 4:00:00 AM

A Texas congressman who is a former judge warns that the "hate crimes" legislation reintroduced in the U.S. House could potentially lead to the arrest of Christian pastors who speak out against sexual immorality.

Representatives John Conyers (D-Michigan) and Mark Kirk (R-Illinois) are sponsoring the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (H.R. 1913), also known as the "Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act." The bill would add sexual orientation to the list of categories covered under federal hate crime law. When Democrats passed the bill in 2007, they were divided over whether to add "gender identity and expression" to the list.

Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) says under the legislation, pastors, rabbis, or imams could be charged with encouraging or inducing a "hate crime" if they preach against homosexuality.

"Every preacher of the gospel, unless you cut out parts of it; every imam who mentions anything with regard to sexual immorality -- they could be pursued, and in other countries they have been," says the Texas lawmaker.

Gohmert shares information he received from abroad. "I was talking to a guy from Norway who was telling me that people are even afraid to say Mary was a virgin, because just bringing up sexuality at all can raise problems with law enforcement," he says.

Gohmert believes the Conyers-Kirk bill is also unnecessary because hate-motivated crimes are not a major national epidemic. He notes that during his time as a judge, he found that people who commit crimes out of anger and hate have a better chance of being rehabilitated than those who simply commit crimes randomly.

NateR 04-13-2009 05:57 PM

Just another example where Liberals are trying to strip everyone of their civil rights guaranteed under the Constitution. This is a blatant violation of Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.

Who cares if it's hurtful? Saying that you have freedom of speech, as long as you don't offend anyone or hurt their feelings, is basically saying that you don't have freedom of speech at all.

Crisco 04-13-2009 06:04 PM

It's a very scary time to be an American.

Chris F 04-13-2009 06:20 PM

This law passes some left wingers have already vowed they will sue and press charges to all ministers and Christians who violate this. It is a very scary time to be in America. Our freedoms are being sold to the highest bidder. This is exactly why our founders did nto want a democracy. And guess what we have become. The Constitution is nothing more then a historical document now, because no one is truly obeying it any longer.

Miss Foxy 04-13-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NateR
Just another example where Liberals are trying to strip everyone of their civil rights guaranteed under the Constitution. This is a blatant violation of Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech.

Who cares if it's hurtful? Saying that you have freedom of speech, as long as you don't offend anyone or hurt their feelings, is basically saying that you don't have freedom of speech at all.

Nate you got a Republican in on it too!! Whats up with that? How did that get past you?:angry:

NateR 04-13-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris F
This law passes some left wingers have already vowed they will sue and press charges to all ministers and Christians who violate this. It is a very scary time to be in America. Our freedoms are being sold to the highest bidder. This is exactly why our founders did nto want a democracy. And guess what we have become. The Constitution is nothing more then a historical document now, because no one is truly obeying it any longer.

Well, Paul, Peter, John and most every early Church leader spent some time in prison for teaching the truth; so it's not like we won't be in good company. :)

I think the American Church is experiencing GOD's judgement for those misguided Southern Church leaders who supported segregation and opposed the Civil Rights movement.

NateR 04-13-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Melissa Villaseņor
Nate you got a Republican in on it too!! Whats up with that? How did that get past you?:angry:

Which Republican?

Honestly if the Republican party doesn't get back to it's conservative roots, then the part is doomed. I'm tired of seeing Republicans acting like Democrats.

Miss Foxy 04-13-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NateR
Which Republican?

Honestly if the Republican party doesn't get back to it's conservative roots, then the part is doomed. I'm tired of seeing Republicans acting like Democrats.

It says Mark Kirk? I can't believe this its just ridiculous and its getting worse and worse with politics...

rearnakedchoke 04-13-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Melissa Villaseņor
It says Mark Kirk? I can't believe this its just ridiculous and its getting worse and worse with politics...

yeah, nate probably voted for that guy too .......

NateR 04-13-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke
yeah, nate probably voted for that guy too .......

Unless he's an Illinois Senator, I doubt it.


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