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Tyburn 11-05-2013 10:31 AM

The Great Collect for Bonfire Night
For those of you who dont know:

Robert Catesby, a Roman Catholic of the Jesuit Order, living under the first Scot King to rule both Scotland and England simultaneously. (King James) decided that he would assassinate the King, and the entire Parliament in order to bring about regieme change which would put the nation back to Catholic, rather then protestant.

The year is 1605, we are between the Reformation and the English Civil War, both of which were fought due to this rivalry between denominations of Christianity.

During the State Opening of Parliament, both Houses (Commons and Lords) would assemble in a single Chamber with the Royal Presence in Westminster Palace. Along with twelve other people, a plan was decided to use gunpowder keggs to distroy the palace whilst the ceremony was in progress. This was on the back of a failed plot by others to try and kidnap King James at the Tower of London and force the Government to change its allegience back to Rome.

The idea was that the gunpowder keggs, bought and stored at one of the perpertrators london residences on the south bank, would be carried across the river by boat in small numbers so as not to cause undue attention. These would be put in the Undercroft of the palace. In those days the Palace was a hive of activity amoungst merchants, a giant market as well as the seat of Government, and it was possible to rent spaces in the undercroft. One such space up for rent was below the Chambre for the Ceremony.

The day before the state opening, which had already been delayed from September, a letter was sent to the authorities about the plan. We do not know who wrote the letter, but one must remember that whilst a minority, some prominent Romans would still be serving in the Government, would almost certainly be present for the Opening, and some found it quite distasteful that they not be warned of the threat considering they could be killed and were Catholics.

Early in the morning of the State Opening of Parliament, the authorities scoured Westminster Palace and discovered the gunpowder in the undercroft and caught Guy Fawkes, a Catholic Foreigner, who was Ex-Military, supposed to be gaurding and lighting the fuse at the appointed time.

Fawkes was arrested, and the gun powder removed in time for the ceremony to continue. Fawkes initially claimed he acted alone, giving the conspirators time to leave London, refortify at their homes in the country and mount an armed offensive. but he cracked, and the authorities started to put the pieces together concerning prominent vocal catholics.

Fawkes was sent to The Tower of London, whilst the authorities took on the main band of rebels at their residences in the country. There was some violent fighting, and the ringleader catesby was killed. Ten weeks of investigation by the Authorities based at the Tower of London commenced.

At the end of January the following year, the Trials began at Westminster Hall, and included prominent Jesuits who may have known about the plan and not warned the authorities. All bar one claimed innocence but on idiotic and semantic grounds. Some were dragged through the streets of London by horses, before being executed at Tyburn. But others, Fawkes included, were exectuted by the Palace of Westminster, so they could see they had failed as they were dying :laugh:

ALMIGHTY God and heavenly Father, who of thy gracious providence, and tender mercy towards us, didst prevent the malice and imaginations of our enemies, by discovering and confounding their horrible and wicked enterprize, plotted, and intended this day to have been executed against the King, and whole State of this Realm, for the subversion of the Government, and Religion established among us; We most humbly praise and magnify thy glorious Name for this thine infinite gracious goodness towards us, expressed in both these acts of thy mercy. We confess, it was thy mercy, thy mercy alone, that we were not then consumed. For our sins cried to heaven against us; and our iniquities justly called for vengeance upon us. But thou hast not dealt with us after our sins, nor rewarded us after our iniquities; nor given us over, as we deserved, to be a prey to our enemies; but didst in mercy delivered us from their malice, and preserved us from death and destruction. Let the consideration of this thy goodness, O Lord, work in us true repentance, that iniquity may not be our ruine. And increase in us more and more a lively faith, and fruitful love in all holy obedience, that thou maist continue thy favour, with the light of thy Gospel to us and our posterity for evermore; and that for thy dear Sons sake, Jesus Christ our only Mediator and Advocate. Amen.

CAVEMAN1 11-05-2013 05:13 PM

:) Just read this morning from Charles Spurgeon:

"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper."—Isaiah 54:17.

THIS day is notable in English history for two great deliverances wrought by God for us. On this day the plot of the Papists to destroy our Houses of Parliament was discovered, 1605.

"While for our princes they prepare
In caverns deep a burning snare,
He shot from heaven a piercing ray,
And the dark treachery brought to day."

And secondly—to-day is the anniversary of the landing of King William III, at Torbay, by which the hope of Popish ascendancy was quashed, and religious liberty was secured, 1688.
This day ought to be celebrated, not by the saturnalia of striplings, but by the songs of saints. Our Puritan forefathers most devoutly made it a special time of thanksgiving. There is extant a record of the annual sermons preached by Matthew Henry on this day. Our Protestant feeling, and our love of liberty, should make us regard its anniversary with holy gratitude. Let our hearts and lips exclaim, "We have heard with our ears, and our fathers have told us the wondrous things which Thou didst in their day, and in the old time before them." Thou hast made this nation the home of the gospel; and when the foe has risen against her, Thou hast shielded her. Help us to offer repeated songs for repeated deliverances. Grant us more and more a hatred of Antichrist, and hasten on the day of her entire extinction. Till then and ever, we believe the promise, "No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper." Should it not be laid upon the heart of every lover of the gospel of Jesus on this day to plead for the overturning of false doctrines and the extension of divine truth? Would it not be well to search our own hearts, and turn out any of the Popish lumber of self-righteousness which may lie concealed therein?

Tyburn 11-05-2013 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by CAVEMAN1 (Post 202570)
And secondly—to-day is the anniversary of the landing of King William III, at Torbay, by which the hope of Popish ascendancy was quashed, and religious liberty was secured, 1688. see I am no fan of The Glorious Revolution, though I grant you it put a stop, once and for all to Romanism in England of any importance.

The Glorious Revolution was under two extraordinary Monarchs, and with two extraordinary purposes. King William III, was William of Orange, a French provincial king who the British Parliament sought the help of after the Restoration when the Monarchy, yet again, looked about ready to become Roman Catholic. They performed a Coup against the rightful heir, and made a foreign King regnant by marriage to the ousted leaders Sister. They were, thus both fully regnant at the same time, although one outlived the other.

The first purpose was known as The Act of Settlement. On the proviso that when the linage of the current Protestant Monarchs became extinct, the next in line to found their own dynasty had to be a Protestant also. The list of successon was so full of romans that when this took place, the nearest King was something like 50th in line to the throne. He would be the founder of the Hanoverian Dynasty. I have no problem with that.

But there was a second purpose to this. Something changed at the outbreak of the Civil war, that, despite the restoration and the rest of a dynastic tree, the Government had become, how does one put it.... :mellow: Permanent, and believed that actually it held the true power. The Glorious Revolution effectively stripped the monarchy of any real power at all. From that point on the Parliamentarians would never stop their march to an equal share of dicatorialism. Though this happened in small can see it yourself with the mood in Westminster at the time of the American uprising. The Kings of the Dynasty after this "Glorious Revolution" were being litterally stripped of their powers. As a Royalist, that is NOT something to celebrate...and this Revolution got Royal Asscent under William I have real mixed feelings in saying that the coup in order to bring about his reign, was a GODsend.

William and Mary are responsible for the lack of monarchy in England today. They are responsible for giving parliament a free reign that allowed nasty partisanship and corrupt politicians to rule instead of one supposed to be annointed by GOD to lead....but strictly from the point of view of a Protestant Parliamentarian...I suppose you could take the view that the latter helpped make both absolute.

Tyburn 11-05-2013 08:27 PM

and to celebrate, whatever you will, and however you was the local fireworks display :happydancing:

CAVEMAN1 11-07-2013 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Tyburn (Post 202574)
and to celebrate, whatever you will, and however you was the local fireworks display :happydancing:


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