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huan 06-23-2013 03:31 PM

and the UFC just become anti 2nd amendment
 
http://on.ufc.com/149JmhB

"UFC superstar Glover Teixeira has a niece who attended Sandy Hook Elementary School. Now he's joined the Mayors Against Illegal Guns' effort to Demand Action to End Gun Violence. "

Seriously UFC? I wonder how Matt feels about this...

(and maybe a mod can edit my typo'd subject line :P)

Tyburn 06-23-2013 09:44 PM

:unsure-1:

Are you mad that Glover is in favour of gun restrictions?? If so, isnt he allowed to have and express an opinion??

Or are you angry that the UFC have allowed him to make his own little advert?

Are we sure the UFC are in favour of this...?? They may have allowed the video, but was it their idea...would they allow some other superstar to make an alternate advert and host that as well?? Perhaps someone should ask them

Finally...have you considered that the UFC may not give a hoot either way...but that they are engaging in a political act which is close to the legislators heart in a State that refuses them access....Are you certain this hasnt got far more to do with New York...?

Perhaps you oughta ask some of the MMA newsmedia if they could get an interview with Dana White to get some clarity on this issue.

As for me, I havent really got a clue what you should do about guns in your country. I recognise that hunting in your country is not only well regulated, but also required for population control, so I have no problem with that. I also recognise that because firearms are so widespread in your country, you cant simply just ban them, and I do sort of follow that you cant expect criminals to abide by the law.

I come from a culture where guns are next to non-existant, where gun crime is quite minimal, and where even touching a firearm can get you fifteen years incarceration, so, personally, if I was a legislator, I wouldnt want guns about, but I wouldnt try and ban them...I would tackle the issue by controlling the ammunition instead...You tend to find that guns become obserlete if they dont have bullets...a bit like a car without petrol.

But...I am not american, I dont live there, I dont really know how well that would work in a place where everyone, criminals and non criminals seem to be armed. As I dont know, and it doesnt effect me, I dont really care...neither do I care what the UFC believe in that regard (IF they even do) and I certainly dont care if Glover believes in their complete erradication.

MattHughesRocks 06-23-2013 10:41 PM

He said keep guns out of the hands of terrorists and criminals. Not me and you. What wrong with saying that?

flo 06-24-2013 04:06 AM

Dave, I didn't read Huan's post as angry at all. He probably resents someone representing the UFC taking a political stand either way. I mean, it's on the UFC website, FFS!

I wonder how Matt feels about it as well.

I would respectfully submit, as to gun control in the UK, Lee Rigby may well not have gotten hacked to death if he or a bystander had been armed.

flo 06-24-2013 04:17 AM

Here's another little factoid about the "Mayors against Gun Violence" group.

Quote:

Then, as the "No More Names" group commemorates victims of gun violence by reading their names out loud, bystanders are shocked to hear Tamerlan Tsarnaev listed among the "victims." Tsarnaev, you'll recall, was shot by police during a massive gun battle in the wake of the deadly Boston Marathon bombings, for which he and his younger brother were responsible. Tamerlan has also been implicated in three additional murders. AP follows up with a surreal question about "No More Names:"

As of this writing, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns website says 6,170 Americans have been murdered by people using guns since Newtown; I canít believe I have to ask this, but does that list include criminals ó or terrorists ó killed by police in an exchange of gunfire?
Link here. Not surprising since this is Mayor "nanny state" Bloomberg's group.

Liddellfan 06-24-2013 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyburn (Post 200463)
:unsure-1:

Are you mad that Glover is in favour of gun restrictions?? If so, isnt he allowed to have and express an opinion??

Or are you angry that the UFC have allowed him to make his own little advert?

Are we sure the UFC are in favour of this...?? They may have allowed the video, but was it their idea...would they allow some other superstar to make an alternate advert and host that as well?? Perhaps someone should ask them

Finally...have you considered that the UFC may not give a hoot either way...but that they are engaging in a political act which is close to the legislators heart in a State that refuses them access....Are you certain this hasnt got far more to do with New York...?

Perhaps you oughta ask some of the MMA newsmedia if they could get an interview with Dana White to get some clarity on this issue.

As for me, I havent really got a clue what you should do about guns in your country. I recognise that hunting in your country is not only well regulated, but also required for population control, so I have no problem with that. I also recognise that because firearms are so widespread in your country, you cant simply just ban them, and I do sort of follow that you cant expect criminals to abide by the law.

I come from a culture where guns are next to non-existant, where gun crime is quite minimal, and where even touching a firearm can get you fifteen years incarceration, so, personally, if I was a legislator, I wouldnt want guns about, but I wouldnt try and ban them...I would tackle the issue by controlling the ammunition instead...You tend to find that guns become obserlete if they dont have bullets...a bit like a car without petrol.
But...I am not american, I dont live there, I dont really know how well that would work in a place where everyone, criminals and non criminals seem to be armed. As I dont know, and it doesnt effect me, I dont really care...neither do I care what the UFC believe in that regard (IF they even do) and I certainly dont care if Glover believes in their complete erradication.

That is a typical response of a socialist and someone who was raised in a country of "we the sheeple". Someone who has never tasted an ounce of freedom or made their own personal choices.

"WE THE PEOPLE" are a free society and can make our own decisions. If we want guns, we buy them.

Gun crime is minimal yes BUT the crime rate in the UK blows that of these United States out of the water. Reason being, people don't have a means to protect their lives on your side of the pond. You will NEVER understand our way of life nor our god given right to self defense because you have been dictated to your entire life and are programmed by the socialist system.

Always spewing your nonsense here and it's an MMA forum. No need for your anti-American BS...If you don't like us tough. Enjoy your socialist society and keep quiet.

FYI : hunting has absolutely NOTHING to due with our right to keep arms. You sound like Piers Morgan saying uneducated things like that.

Tyburn 06-24-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flo (Post 200465)

I would respectfully submit, as to gun control in the UK, Lee Rigby may well not have gotten hacked to death if he or a bystander had been armed.

No...he would have been shot instead...coz thats soooooo much better :blink:

Tyburn 06-24-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liddellfan (Post 200467)
1) That is a typical response of a socialist and someone who was raised in a country of "we the sheeple". Someone who has never tasted an ounce of freedom or made their own personal choices.

2) "WE THE PEOPLE" are a free society and can make our own decisions. If we want guns, we buy them.

3) Gun crime is minimal yes BUT the crime rate in the UK blows that of these United States out of the water. Reason being, people don't have a means to protect their lives on your side of the pond. You will NEVER understand our way of life nor our god given right to self defense because you have been dictated to your entire life and are programmed by the socialist system.

4) Always spewing your nonsense here and it's an MMA forum. No need for your anti-American BS...If you don't like us tough. Enjoy your socialist society and keep quiet.

5) FYI : hunting has absolutely NOTHING to due with our right to keep arms. You sound like Piers Morgan saying uneducated things like that.

1) Says someone who lives under a Union that doesnt use a popularity vote to ellect its president, and whose BIG Government has stolen the soverignties of fifty individuals States :laugh:

2) IF that were more then writing on a page, YOU would not be shyte skeerd they will come for your guns! The very fright, the very possibility that they might, that your Government think they have that ability, shows how far you have moved from your blessed constitution....if you worried more about sorting THAT out, you wouldnt have to fear the legislators in the first place.

3) I CLEARLY stated in my original reply, that I DONT KNOW what I think about YOUR countries problems, and that I could ONLY go on what I knew. I have the courage to admit what is beyond my knowledge...but you are an American Republican, therefore you think you know everything!

Quote:

As for me, I havent really got a clue what you should do about guns in your country.
Quote:

But...I am not american, I dont live there, I dont really know how well that would work in a place where everyone, criminals and non criminals seem to be armed. As I dont know, and it doesnt effect me, I dont really care
Missed these two nuggets...did you?

I could never comprehend you...but you have no problem understanding my culture? The truth is everything that isnt Governed by you, you consider inferior, stupid, uneducated and in dire need of liberation....That includes your attitudes towards your friends...and if you want to talk gun stats...shall we talk about a country who has, despite the prolific usage of firearms, somehow manages to have one of the worst friendly fire accident records in the history of modern warfare..? Stretching from the "accident" at the D-Day landing rehersal...all the way to the "accidents" in Iraq.

Or is it that we the sheeple are expendable as inferior, uneducated, non-american Republicans.

4) Really :blink: Awww fanx for putting me in my place :laugh:

5) Why consign the hunters to archaic crossbows if you didnt have to :huh:

Neezar 06-24-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liddellfan (Post 200467)
That is a typical response of a socialist and someone who was raised in a country of "we the sheeple". Someone who has never tasted an ounce of freedom or made their own personal choices.

"WE THE PEOPLE" are a free society and can make our own decisions. If we want guns, we buy them.

Gun crime is minimal yes BUT the crime rate in the UK blows that of these United States out of the water. Reason being, people don't have a means to protect their lives on your side of the pond. You will NEVER understand our way of life nor our god given right to self defense because you have been dictated to your entire life and are programmed by the socialist system.

Always spewing your nonsense here and it's an MMA forum. No need for your anti-American BS...If you don't like us tough. Enjoy your socialist society and keep quiet.

FYI : hunting has absolutely NOTHING to due with our right to keep arms. You sound like Piers Morgan saying uneducated things like that.

What the hell is wrong with you? Are you 12?

There was nothing anti-american in his post. As a matter of fact, that post was tame compared to some others. lol

rearnakedchoke 06-24-2013 02:58 PM

don't see how this is anti second ammendment .. looks like they want to get rid of illegal guns and stop gun violence ..


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