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J.B.
03-08-2012, 09:54 PM
I don't even like the Colts, but I have to admit that I shed a tear watching the press conference yesterday.

Peyton Manning, you are DA MAN...:wink:

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1606859295746&id=7dd93d6bff517f7f4d4d81624f43a1fb

Bonnie
03-09-2012, 01:33 AM
Peyton shed some too. :sad: Fourteen years...he really did build that house! :cry:

What's the deal? Too much money? His neck? :unsure-1:

Is this the end of Peyton's career?

VCURamFan
03-09-2012, 03:00 AM
I don't even like the Colts, but I have to admit that I shed a tear watching the press conference yesterday.

Peyton Manning, you are DA MAN...:wink:

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1606859295746&id=7dd93d6bff517f7f4d4d81624f43a1fb

Think y'all will get him?

JavierDLC
03-09-2012, 05:01 AM
Im not a Colts fan but how can you not Like Peyton Manning?!?!?!?!

He is definitely one of the all time greats!!

I hope he gets to play another season and beats the colts :)

Max
03-09-2012, 12:35 PM
It's sad but the Colts made the right decision. Peyton only has 3 or 4 years left in him. They have the chance to draft a guy who will be the guy there for 10+ years.

rockdawg21
03-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Here he comes!!!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409005_334609203227953_100000366272259_1122273_293 077196_n.jpg

rearnakedchoke
03-09-2012, 03:12 PM
never a colts fan .. never a peyton fan ... don't really like the guy ... but i hope he goes somewhere else and rams a superbowl down the throats of the indy management/owners ..

J.B.
03-11-2012, 01:08 AM
Think y'all will get him?

Well, I'd be a liar if I didn't say that I hope so! :laugh:

As of today it looks like it's down to the Broncos, Cardinals, or Dolphins and Peyton wants a deal to get done by Tuesday so whatever team he goes to can get a start on free agency. Supposedly he was coming to Phoenix/Glendale today to meet with Cardinals staff, and everyone around here is definitely excited. I just got home from watching the White Sox play the Rangers in a Spring Training game in Glendale right down the street from the home of the Cardinals, and I was honestly checking ESPN on my Android every half inning to see if there was a update on Manning. :frantics:

It's really hard to even guess at this point where he will end up. A great argument can be made for any of the teams left in the running. All I can say is that I could honestly see THIS....

http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/peyton-manning-cardinalsqb.jpg

+ THIS

http://sports.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Lary-Fitzgerald-hates-Kurt-Warner.jpg

= THIS
http://www.city-data.com/profiles/photo/4538f

J.B.
03-11-2012, 01:16 AM
never a colts fan .. never a peyton fan ... don't really like the guy ... but i hope he goes somewhere else and rams a superbowl down the throats of the indy management/owners ..

He famously told the Colts owner Jim Irsay when he interviewed him before he was drafted...

I would like to play for you but if you donít pick me, I will kick your ass for the next 15 years.Ē

:wink:

J.B.
03-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Peyton shed some too. :sad: Fourteen years...he really did build that house! :cry:

What's the deal? Too much money? His neck? :unsure-1:

Is this the end of Peyton's career?

His career isn't over yet. Unlike Favre, it was never an issue of Peyton not knowing if he wanted to retire or not. He always felt like he would be able to return after the surgeries, and he has been working hard the entire time to rehab so that he could return.

What it ultimately boiled down to was a very unique set of circumstances in which this is the best move for both Manning and the Colts. Sure, Manning is one of the best QB's of all time, but nobody really suspected going into last year that the Colts would go 1-15 and end up with the first pick in the draft. This year's top prospect, Andrew Luck, is considered by many to be one of the best QB prospects of the last 20 or 30 years. Not to mention, Robert Griffin III has also exploded into the number 2 spot after his Heisman winning year with Baylor. So, just like 14 years ago when Jim Irsay had to choose between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf (the biggest bust in NFL history), he is faced with the same choice.

Sure, they could have kept Peyton, gave him the 28 million dollar bonus, and then traded the top pick, but that's not smart for the long term of the Colts. Peyton Manning is 36 years old, and coming off missing an entire season of football. Yes he is one of the best ever, and I do believe that he will be able to play great even after the long layoff, but the Colts team only managed to win ONE game last season. That means there are a LOT of problems that need to be fixed, and they probably wont all be fixed in the last 2 or 3 years of Peyton's career. For the Colts, they look at it just like they did when they drafted Peyton 14 years ago. They take Andrew Luck now, and in a few years they will be right back in the mix of contending for a Super Bowl. Now, that's not to say it's exactly how it will work out...but that's the logic. :laugh:

For Peyton, he gets to basically have his choice of where he wants to finish his career, and can go to a team that is more likely to have the right pieces in place to win right away so that he can try to get another ring, or at least finish out his career respectably.

Pastor Chris F
03-11-2012, 05:08 PM
He was in Oklahoma the other day chatting with John Elway about going to Denver. Elway was in town for OSU players in the draft and they met at the airport and flew to Denver for dinner.

Bonnie
03-11-2012, 08:18 PM
His career isn't over yet. Unlike Favre, it was never an issue of Peyton not knowing if he wanted to retire or not. He always felt like he would be able to return after the surgeries, and he has been working hard the entire time to rehab so that he could return.

What it ultimately boiled down to was a very unique set of circumstances in which this is the best move for both Manning and the Colts. Sure, Manning is one of the best QB's of all time, but nobody really suspected going into last year that the Colts would go 1-15 and end up with the first pick in the draft. This year's top prospect, Andrew Luck, is considered by many to be one of the best QB prospects of the last 20 or 30 years. Not to mention, Robert Griffin III has also exploded into the number 2 spot after his Heisman winning year with Baylor. So, just like 14 years ago when Jim Irsay had to choose between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf (the biggest bust in NFL history), he is faced with the same choice.

Sure, they could have kept Peyton, gave him the 28 million dollar bonus, and then traded the top pick, but that's not smart for the long term of the Colts. Peyton Manning is 36 years old, and coming off missing an entire season of football. Yes he is one of the best ever, and I do believe that he will be able to play great even after the long layoff, but the Colts team only managed to win ONE game last season. That means there are a LOT of problems that need to be fixed, and they probably wont all be fixed in the last 2 or 3 years of Peyton's career. For the Colts, they look at it just like they did when they drafted Peyton 14 years ago. They take Andrew Luck now, and in a few years they will be right back in the mix of contending for a Super Bowl. Now, that's not to say it's exactly how it will work out...but that's the logic. :laugh:

For Peyton, he gets to basically have his choice of where he wants to finish his career, and can go to a team that is more likely to have the right pieces in place to win right away so that he can try to get another ring, or at least finish out his career respectably.

Was that $28 million bonus an unusual thing to have in a contract especially for a player (no matter how good) who is as old as Peyton is, for a player in his twilight years?

And, do you think Arizona has all the "right pieces" to lure Peyton?

J.B.
03-11-2012, 08:42 PM
Was that $28 million bonus an unusual thing to have in a contract especially for a player (no matter how good) who is as old as Peyton is, for a player in his twilight years?

And, do you think Arizona has all the "right pieces" to lure Peyton?

It's not unusual for players to have bonuses, but 28 million would have been the largest lump sum of cash ever paid to an NFL player. However, that was exactly what Jim Irsay said he wanted when he resigned Peyton not long ago. Irsay said he wanted to make Peyton the highest paid player in the NFL, and he did.

According to ESPN and KTAR here in Phoenix, Manning is meeting with the Cardinals brass and Larry Fitzgerald as I am typing this. There are also reports that Manning has narrowed it down to either Denver or Arizona and that he is leaning towards Denver. Obviously, I think the Cardinals have a great up-and-coming squad that could be put over the top by a QB like Peyton, but one of our setbacks is our offensive line and the fact that we are in the NFC. Denver was closer to the Super Bowl than we were last season, and they sit in a much more wide open division, and conference, than the Cardinals. I think staying in the AFC could ultimately be what it boils down to for Peyton because it's the conference he knows better, and because he would be less likely to have to directly compete with his brother Eli (unless they both make it to the Super Bowl).

J.B.
03-11-2012, 08:57 PM
Another point about the 28 million dollar bonus...

If anybody deserves that kind of money it's Peyton Manning. Over the last 14 years, Manning increased the value of the Colts franchise by over 233 million dollars. Far and away, that is more than any other single player has done for an NFL franchise in history.

This is according to Forbes...http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/03/07/peyton-manning-increased-value-of-colts-by-233-million/

When Manning was drafted by the Colts in 1998 the team was worth $227 million, last among the league’s 30 teams and $47 million below the NFL median team value. The Colts are currently worth $1.1 billion, 11th among the league’s 32 teams and $64 million above the NFL median. While the typical NFL team increased 263% in value during Manning’s 14 years at Indianapolis, the value of the Colts rose 366%.

No matter where Manning ends up, it's not only big for that NFL team, but it's big for the city in many ways. The value of sponsorships are likely to rise considerably, and it can also effect the landscape for teams in other sports. The Phoenix Suns released a statement on their website pleading for Manning to come here, because they know that if Peyton chooses Phoenix it will potentially make the city look like a more desirable location to other free agents in the future. Not to mention the other great things Manning brings to the table for a city in terms of charitable causes.

J.B.
03-12-2012, 12:06 AM
Peyton spent over 6 hours meeting with the Cardinals today and was seen leaving the facility in an SUV driven by Coach Wisenhunt and followed by owner Michael Bidwill. Peyton is supposedly flying back to his home in Miami tonight.

Not going to get my hopes up to high just yet, but local reporter John Gambodoro for 620 KTAR (http://twitter.com/#!/gambo620) in Phoenix posted these tweets earlier today...

No details boys and girls just had a good nfl source saying Peyton to Arizona based on conference call today I'm awaiting more info

Just got off phone so in nutshell I'm hearing that unless bidwill screws this up peyton should be a card. Nothing done yet!! but promising

:ninja:

Bonnie
03-12-2012, 02:20 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed that y'all get him JB! :)

Tebow must be sweating this out until Peyton makes a final decision!

Pastor Chris F
03-12-2012, 02:28 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed that y'all get him JB! :)

Tebow must be sweating this out until Peyton makes a final decision!

Tebow is grounded enough to know this would be great for them both. I think Peyton would do more in Arizona than for Denver unless the Broncos improve some area with the draft or some trades. But like JB said he really wants to stay in the AFC and does not want to kick Eli out of a chance by whooping him.

rockdawg21
03-12-2012, 01:09 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409005_334609203227953_100000366272259_1122273_293 077196_n.jpg

Still sayin', we can easily afford him and still have money around to buy anybody else he wants us to bring with him.

The only problem is that Kansas City sucks, the only thing we can offer him is the world's best BBQ and a few casinos :laugh:

J.B.
03-13-2012, 09:59 AM
FOOOOTBALLLLLLL COPPPPSSS......:crazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-znHzHafMlQ

Peyton, please come to AZ! :)

rearnakedchoke
03-13-2012, 01:05 PM
Here he comes!!!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409005_334609203227953_100000366272259_1122273_293 077196_n.jpg

http://bloguin.com/crystalballrun/images/stories/Robert-Griffin-III-Heisman-490.jpg

J.B.
03-13-2012, 03:59 PM
http://bloguin.com/crystalballrun/images/stories/Robert-Griffin-III-Heisman-490.jpg

:laugh:

You are thinking of the Redskins, not the Chiefs! :)

rearnakedchoke
03-13-2012, 05:31 PM
LOL .. totally ... for some reason i am a moron ...

that brings me to my next question .. would you take luck or rgIII?

J.B.
03-13-2012, 05:52 PM
LOL .. totally ... for some reason i am a moron ...

that brings me to my next question .. would you take luck or rgIII?

No, it totally makes sense. Both are offensive to American Indians in 2012. :laugh:

Seriously though, I would probably take RG-III. I've been saying that for months, so I'm sticking to it. Both guys look very promising though, and it's always a gamble. With that being said, I would guess that having LUCK is always helpful when you are gambling. :wink:

VCURamFan
03-15-2012, 09:33 PM
Larry's happy about Peyton possible coming to Phoenix, but I can't tell what's Barnett's opinion is...
http://i.imgur.com/PhS7E.gif

J.B.
03-15-2012, 11:39 PM
Larry's happy about Peyton possible coming to Phoenix, but I can't tell what's Barnett's opinion is...
http://i.imgur.com/PhS7E.gif

I think that's called "roid rage". :laugh:

Regardless, I don't think he's coming here at this point. The word as of today is that Miami is officially out of the running and it's down to Denver, Arizona, and the Tennessee Titans. Arizona has until tomorrow at 1pm to either release Kevin Kolb or pay him a 7 million dollar bonus, so unless Manning calls us tonight or first thing in the morning and says he's coming here I expect the Cards to move forward and give Kolb another chance.

J.B.
03-16-2012, 12:35 AM
Now there is chatter coming out of Nashville that Manning is going to Tennessee. Supposedly contract talks are currently underway and a press conference may not come until Monday because Bud Adams's kid is getting married over the weekend.

Nothing official at this point, but thats the latest on the rumor mill.

rockdawg21
03-16-2012, 04:20 AM
Crazy, he didn't even bother visiting KC. We are the team that has the highest payroll openings too. Not that Peyton is greedy, but we could have surrounded with with whatever talent he wanted. Guess Tennessee is a great fit for him though; he can get revenge on Indy twice next year and with his presence on the field, Chris Johnson will be able to return to his previous form.

J.B.
03-16-2012, 06:10 AM
Crazy, he didn't even bother visiting KC. We are the team that has the highest payroll openings too. Not that Peyton is greedy, but we could have surrounded with with whatever talent he wanted. Guess Tennessee is a great fit for him though; he can get revenge on Indy twice next year and with his presence on the field, Chris Johnson will be able to return to his previous form.

Tennessee is where his wife is from, and of course he was a Volunteer (even though they aren't big Vols fans in Nashville). I would consider KC over Tennessee, but not over Arizona or Denver if I am Peyton Manning. Although I will honestly say I think Steve Breaston is a better WR than anybody on Denver or Tennesse (exception being Kenny Britt, but we gotta see if he is healthy). Still, if Peyton wants to smash the record books while competing for a Super Bowl, Arizona is the best place because we have Larry. He may not win with another ring with ANY of these teams, but it's a damn good bet that him and Larry will set some records.

I love Nashville, and my family is deeply rooted in Tennessee. If they get him I know he will be in loving hands, but if we are strictly talking football then the Cardinals are the perfect place for Peyton IMO. :wink:

VCURamFan
03-16-2012, 02:38 PM
Pat Bolan's plane is en route to Carlina right now. John Elway, John Fox, the OC, the QB coach & a medical team are all on board. Peyton will be working out for them.

J.B.
03-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Arizona is officially out of the running, and they have resigned Kevin Kolb.

Apparently, the 49ers talked to Manning on Tuesday, and watched him throw. It's surprising that happened, because Peyton Manning's agent is Tom Condon who is also the agent for Alex Smith. :ninja:

rearnakedchoke
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
Denver it is ... this is great for Denver, Tebow and Manning ...

VCURamFan
03-19-2012, 04:20 PM
Denver it is ... this is great for Denver, Tebow and Manning ...

...and $h!tty for my Raiders...

rockdawg21
03-19-2012, 06:16 PM
Good, then KC gets 2 times to shove it up Manning's butt next season!

Bonnie
03-19-2012, 07:25 PM
Well, JB, his new team home state does touch the corner of Arizona. :wink: Did he even visit with the Cardinals like he did the other teams?

J.B.
03-19-2012, 10:27 PM
Well, JB, his new team home state does touch the corner of Arizona. :wink: Did he even visit with the Cardinals like he did the other teams?

He visited here last week, but we needed a decision by last Friday or we had to pay Kolb 7 million dollars. Im just glad hes not going to San Fran.

kevint13
03-20-2012, 01:07 AM
He visited here last week, but we needed a decision by last Friday or we had to pay Kolb 7 million dollars. Im just glad hes not going to San Fran.

I really thought he was headed to SF....they were acquiring good WRs right and left. As a Bronco fan I am glad we got him....look forward to see what we can do with him.