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donaldbreland
05-10-2010, 03:41 AM
Why is no one talking about Alan. Please Dana give him to Silva. I think he takes it.

atomdanger
05-10-2010, 04:06 AM
Belcher gets MAULED by Anderson Silva.
He takes way too many shots to fight Anderson Silva.

He has looked good, but he really needs to work on his defense.

Mac
05-10-2010, 04:16 AM
Yeah , i dont think he is near ready for Silva

donaldbreland
05-10-2010, 04:52 AM
out of anyone in the mw division i think he earns it. If they fought then I know for sure it wouldn't be boring. Heck he may be ballsy enough to stand in their and actually knock him out. I think Belcher wasn't given much of a chance against Cote and he clearly beat Cote's butt. I think he may just be the type of fighter to beat Silva. His last loss was against Akiyama and he should have won that fight. He was screwed. If nothing else give him the opportunity if Sonnen was to get injured.

bj44
05-10-2010, 05:04 AM
out of anyone in the mw division i think he earns it. If they fought then I know for sure it wouldn't be boring. Heck he may be ballsy enough to stand in their and actually knock him out. I think Belcher wasn't given much of a chance against Cote and he clearly beat Cote's butt. I think he may just be the type of fighter to beat Silva. His last loss was against Akiyama and he should have won that fight. He was screwed. If nothing else give him the opportunity if Sonnen was to get injured.

look at the punch stats for the sexyama fight... Sexyama landed more and got some takedowns... Belcher should face the winner of Wanderlei vs Akyiama or Vitor

KevinD
05-10-2010, 05:18 PM
I don't think he will do much if he fights Silva in the near future. I was impressed how he stayed in the pocket with such a heavy puncher as Cote. He did elude a lot of punches and not many were landing flush. But against Anderson, it would be lights out for the man who loves Johnny Cash.

donaldbreland
05-10-2010, 05:32 PM
I don't see him getting knocked out by Silva. Silva didn't do much with Cote. He actually looked a little hesitant against Silva. I fCote would have won that fight he would be in contention for the title. Belcher won Now lest give him the opportunity.

Spiritwalker
05-10-2010, 05:55 PM
Alan Belcher?? Against Anderson Silva???

The title to the next Rocky and Bullwinkle Cartoon

http://www.wii60.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/rocky.jpg

"What did Alan do to you to make you want him dead in 30 seconds..."

or

"We see Anderson play for 5 rounds again and be the first UFC champ to fight on the undercard"

Liddellfan
05-10-2010, 07:13 PM
Belcher claimed that he can pick Silva apart during his interview. I highly doubt that, how can you pick someone apart that won't throw a punch? When Anderson does decide to throw a pucnh if they fight......that will be the end.

Llamafighter
05-10-2010, 08:03 PM
I think Belcher should fight Vitor to see who gets the winner of Silva and Sonnen.
Belcher is good and may kick hard but Silva sees everything in slow motion.

donaldbreland
05-10-2010, 08:44 PM
What you guys seem to forget is that Silva isn't God. He can be beat. God is the only one that can't be beat. Belcher in my eyes dominated Cote. He is as good as a middle weight than any one in that division. I still think Vitor shouldn't be title ready with 1 fight in the UFC. I don;t think Sonnen deserves a shot either. To me that is going to be one boring fight. Silva has lost some steam as of late. I think he needs a fighter like Belcher to fight. Belcher isn't fighting cans either. This boy is 26 years old and has a ton of talent. If nothing else make it a non title fight or let him fight him at 205. Either way I see Silva getting knocked out.

KevinD
05-11-2010, 03:03 AM
What you guys seem to forget is that Silva isn't God. He can be beat. God is the only one that can't be beat. Belcher in my eyes dominated Cote. He is as good as a middle weight than any one in that division. I still think Vitor shouldn't be title ready with 1 fight in the UFC. I don;t think Sonnen deserves a shot either. To me that is going to be one boring fight. Silva has lost some steam as of late. I think he needs a fighter like Belcher to fight. Belcher isn't fighting cans either. This boy is 26 years old and has a ton of talent. If nothing else make it a non title fight or let him fight him at 205. Either way I see Silva getting knocked out.

I think the only one putting Silva and God in the same sentence is you.

You are right Belcher does have talent, I just dont think he is at Silva's level just yet.

Why shouldn't Sonnen get a shot? He just beat Nate the great who was one of the top contenders. Belfort is on the shelf with an injury so why not Sonnen. he comes to fight and I think his style could be interesting to watch with Silva. Not that i think he will win, but Silva will be in a fight!

Back to Belcher, he's a good fighter, I like him, but seriously, a title shot right now? maybe after one more fight.

Neezar
05-11-2010, 10:46 AM
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Why shouldn't Sonnen get a shot? He just beat Nate the great who was one of the top contenders. Belfort is on the shelf with an injury so why not Sonnen. he comes to fight and I think his style could be interesting to watch with Silva. Not that i think he will win, but Silva will be in a fight!



Excellent idea!

Spiritwalker
05-11-2010, 10:50 AM
I think Belcher should fight Vitor to see who gets the winner of Silva and Sonnen.
Belcher is good and may kick hard but Silva sees everything in slow motion.

That's a great call!!! And while I don't really care for Silva.. and I do like Chael .. he doesn't have much of a chance.. IMO.

donaldbreland
05-11-2010, 04:39 PM
I think out of Sonnen and Belcher, Belcher has the better chance of beating Silva. The reason I think that is because everyone who has fought Silva has been Timid against him. They have been sort of scared. I think Belcher will not be scared of him and will atleast make this an exciting fight.

bj44
05-11-2010, 09:22 PM
I think out of Sonnen and Belcher, Belcher has the better chance of beating Silva. The reason I think that is because everyone who has fought Silva has been Timid against him. They have been sort of scared. I think Belcher will not be scared of him and will atleast make this an exciting fight.

you mean the belcher who was nervous against the other sider kendall freakin grove and got his ass kicked :laugh:

give me a break..... How does he get a shot before the Silva vs akyiama winner? He lost to akyiama!!!

donaldbreland
05-11-2010, 10:22 PM
you mean the belcher who was nervous against the other sider kendall freakin grove and got his ass kicked :laugh:

give me a break..... How does he get a shot before the Silva vs akyiama winner? He lost to akyiama!!!

He may have been nervous 4 years ago man but today he is a different fighter. I do however think he deserves a shot over W. Silva or Sexyama. I think he beat him in that fight. If anything they need to have a rematch. There is no way in this world that W. Silva deserves a fight for any title. He needs to put a few wins together first. Belcher just beat a guy who in his last fight fought for a title and did a fair job against a timid Silva. Of course I think Silva was winning the fight any way. I think Silva would have Knocked Out Cote. Belcher beat Cote in pretty good fashion. Something that even Tito Ortiz didn't do.

donaldbreland
05-11-2010, 10:26 PM
According to Sherdog W. Silva has only won 2 fights in 4 years.

here is the stats.

Win Michael Bisping Decision (Unanimous) UFC 110 - Nogueira vs. Velasquez 2/20/2010 3 5:00
Loss Rich Franklin Decision (Unanimous) UFC 99 - The Comeback 6/13/2009 3 5:00
Loss Quinton Jackson KO (Punch) UFC 92 - The Ultimate 2008 12/27/2008 1 3:21
Win Keith Jardine KO (Punches) UFC 84 - Ill Will 5/24/2008 1 0:36
Loss Chuck Liddell Decision (Unanimous) UFC 79 - Nemesis 12/29/2007 3 5:00
Loss Dan Henderson KO (Punches) PRIDE 33 - Second Coming 2/24/2007 3 2:08
Loss Mirko Filipovic KO (Head Kick) PRIDE - Final Conflict Absolute 9/10/2006 1 5

With any win how does he deserve a Title shot.

donaldbreland
05-11-2010, 10:29 PM
Alan Belcher has 4 times in the UFC. Should have been 3.

Here is his stats.

Win Patrick Cote Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) UFC 113 - Machida vs. Shogun 2 5/8/2010 2 3:25
Win Wilson Gouveia TKO (Punches) UFC 107 - Penn vs. Sanchez 12/12/2009 1 3:03
Loss Yoshihiro Akiyama Decision (Split) UFC 100 - Lesnar vs. Mir 2 7/11/2009 3 5:00
Win Denis Kang Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 93 - Franklin vs. Henderson 1/17/2009 2 4:36
Win Ed Herman Decision (Split) UFC - Fight Night 15 9/17/2008 3 5:00
Loss Jason Day TKO (Punches) UFC 83 - Serra vs. St. Pierre II 4/19/2008 1 3:58
Win Kalib Starnes TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 77 - Hostile Territory 10/20/2007 2 1:39
Win Sean Salmon Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 71 - Liddell vs. Jackson 5/26/2007 1 0:53
Loss Kendall Grove Submission (Brabo Choke) UFC 69 - Shootout 4/7/2007 2 4:42
Win Jorge Santiago KO (Head Kick) UFC - Fight Night 7 12/13/2006 3 2:45
Loss Yushin Okami Decision (Unanimous) UFC 62 - Liddell vs. Sobral 8/26/2006 3 5:00

He has fought some very stiff competition is those fights as well. I think we can both agree he deserves one over W.Silva. If not you need to see a eye doctor.

donaldbreland
05-11-2010, 10:40 PM
Akiyama on the other hand was fed cans in Japan except for Manhoef and Kang. The two no contests were against stiff competition but they were no contests. His last good fighter he fought was Belcher. He fought Masanori Tonooka who is 1-2 right before he fought Belcher and before that he fought a guy that was 4-7 -1. So how does he deserve to fight for the Title. Honestly I can;t think of a middle weight right now besides Belcher that really desrves a shot at the belt.
I can see Belfort being a contender based on his past fights he fought. I would like to see Belfort vs Belcher for a shot at the Title which is what I think is going to happen.

KevinD
05-12-2010, 12:55 AM
Alan Belcher has 4 times in the UFC. Should have been 3.

Here is his stats.

Win Patrick Cote Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) UFC 113 - Machida vs. Shogun 2 5/8/2010 2 3:25
Win Wilson Gouveia TKO (Punches) UFC 107 - Penn vs. Sanchez 12/12/2009 1 3:03
Loss Yoshihiro Akiyama Decision (Split) UFC 100 - Lesnar vs. Mir 2 7/11/2009 3 5:00
Win Denis Kang Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 93 - Franklin vs. Henderson 1/17/2009 2 4:36
Win Ed Herman Decision (Split) UFC - Fight Night 15 9/17/2008 3 5:00
Loss Jason Day TKO (Punches) UFC 83 - Serra vs. St. Pierre II 4/19/2008 1 3:58
Win Kalib Starnes TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 77 - Hostile Territory 10/20/2007 2 1:39
Win Sean Salmon Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 71 - Liddell vs. Jackson 5/26/2007 1 0:53
Loss Kendall Grove Submission (Brabo Choke) UFC 69 - Shootout 4/7/2007 2 4:42
Win Jorge Santiago KO (Head Kick) UFC - Fight Night 7 12/13/2006 3 2:45
Loss Yushin Okami Decision (Unanimous) UFC 62 - Liddell vs. Sobral 8/26/2006 3 5:00

He has fought some very stiff competition is those fights as well. I think we can both agree he deserves one over W.Silva. If not you need to see a eye doctor.


I can't really agree with your description of that list of fighters as stiff competition. I would say belcher has risen out of the second tier of fighters in the division and now is entering the top tier.
Why would the UFC rush Belcher who is just 26 years old? Give him a fight or two, with a top contender. Building him up is smart for the UFC and also smart for Belcher.

donaldbreland
05-12-2010, 01:02 AM
I can't really agree with your description of that list of fighters as stiff competition. I would say belcher has risen out of the second tier of fighters in the division and now is entering the top tier.
Why would the UFC rush Belcher who is just 26 years old? Give him a fight or two, with a top contender. Building him up is smart for the UFC and also smart for Belcher.

Huh? You can't agree. Okay. Better than Akiyama or W.Silvas competition.

donaldbreland
05-12-2010, 01:16 AM
In Belchers last 8 fights his opponents record was 130-58. Akiyama last 8 fights his opponents record was 108-51. There is no need for a fighter of Akiyamas caliber to be fighting someone with a 4-7 record or a 1-2 record. They fed him cans. Every one of Belchers opponents have been pretty tough fighter. Yes even Starns. I think he won the Akiyama fight and he should be next in line for the title.

donaldbreland
05-12-2010, 01:18 AM
Kevin D I never quite made the connection. I see that you're from Canada. I shouldn't be arguing with you lol. Only playing Brother

KevinD
05-12-2010, 03:39 AM
In Belchers last 8 fights his opponents record was 130-58. Akiyama last 8 fights his opponents record was 108-51. There is no need for a fighter of Akiyamas caliber to be fighting someone with a 4-7 record or a 1-2 record. They fed him cans. Every one of Belchers opponents have been pretty tough fighter. Yes even Starns. I think he won the Akiyama fight and he should be next in line for the title.

any chance of me taking you seriously just went out the window with that comment :cool:

KevinD
05-12-2010, 03:42 AM
Kevin D I never quite made the connection. I see that you're from Canada. I shouldn't be arguing with you lol. Only playing Brother

Donald....keyboard warriors are so boring....yawn

bj44
05-12-2010, 08:07 AM
Akiyama on the other hand was fed cans in Japan except for Manhoef and Kang. The two no contests were against stiff competition but they were no contests. His last good fighter he fought was Belcher. He fought Masanori Tonooka who is 1-2 right before he fought Belcher and before that he fought a guy that was 4-7 -1. So how does he deserve to fight for the Title. Honestly I can;t think of a middle weight right now besides Belcher that really desrves a shot at the belt.
I can see Belfort being a contender based on his past fights he fought. I would like to see Belfort vs Belcher for a shot at the Title which is what I think is going to happen.

i agree which is why i said he should face the WINNER of silva vs akiyama.. Obbviously if he gets the winner he isnt below them... If wanderlei wins hed have two wins over two top contenders and has the name and history with silva to get the hype..... Akiyama has already beaten Belcher and carries a huge mma market behind him..... Would you atleast agree that Belcher vs silva/akiyama would be good booking? Makes perfect sense to me!

ufcfan2
05-12-2010, 12:06 PM
I really wanna see Shogun v. AS fight soon especiall when both fighters are doing well....I know Dana said he wasn't moving up until he cleared division,but after Sonnen I think its cleared enough...
K,Belcher can fight Vitor and winner of that can fight Akiyama/Wandi for vacant title :)

donaldbreland
05-12-2010, 12:36 PM
i agree which is why i said he should face the WINNER of silva vs akiyama.. Obbviously if he gets the winner he isnt below them... If wanderlei wins hed have two wins over two top contenders and has the name and history with silva to get the hype..... Akiyama has already beaten Belcher and carries a huge mma market behind him..... Would you atleast agree that Belcher vs silva/akiyama would be good booking? Makes perfect sense to me!

I agree to a certain extent. I think that Wandy beat Akiyama by ko. I think wandy is a great fighter but I still think he needs one more good fight to be a contender for the title. I think Belcher vs Belfort for title shot makes sense to me. I would love to see that fight.

KevinD
05-12-2010, 12:43 PM
I agree to a certain extent. I think that Wandy beat Akiyama by ko. I think wandy is a great fighter but I still think he needs one more good fight to be a contender for the title. I think Belcher vs Belfort for title shot makes sense to me. I would love to see that fight.

I would love to see Belfort and Belcher square off. I think that would be a great fight to watch!