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MattHughesRocks
04-10-2010, 02:40 PM
:w00t:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 02:43 PM
I'm already wearing out my "F5" key over on MMAWeekly's PbP page. They haven't posted anything yet, those slackers!!!! :punch:

MattHughesRocks
04-10-2010, 02:49 PM
I have to work today but I'll wear my "Hughes Construction- Remodeling The House That Gracie Built" tshirt under my suit:laugh:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 02:52 PM
I have to work today but I'll wear my "Hughes Construction- Remodeling The House That Gracie Built" tshirt under my suit:laugh:
I'm at work too (ain't managing apartments grand???), but I've got my UFC 68 t-shirt on under my dress shirt! :laugh:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:02 PM
:happydancing: :happydancing: SCORE ONE FOR THE GOOD GUYS!!! :happydancing: :happydancing:
Jon Madsen def. Mostapha Al-Turk by Unanimous Decision, R3

EDIT: All three judges scored it 29-28.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Bummer. :cry:

Paul Kelly def. Matt Veach via submission (guillotine choke) - Round 2, 3:41

Play The Man
04-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Veach lost

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:23 PM
I bet he was whupping @$$ up until he got caught. :punch:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Are these the prelims? :unsure-1:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:31 PM
Are these the prelims? :unsure-1:
Yeah. The PPV starts Live at 1pm EDT/10am PDT & tape-delayed at 10pm

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah. The PPV starts Live at 1pm EDT/10am PDT & tape-delayed at 10pm

I hate that Veach lost! :sad: When I viewed the weigh-ins he looked thinner to me than I've seen him look before. :unsure-1: Hopefully, he'll bounce back and win the next one!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:44 PM
I hate that Veach lost! :sad: When I viewed the weigh-ins he looked thinner to me than I've seen him look before. :unsure-1: Hopefully, he'll bounce back and win the next one!
He'll be back. The UFC's gonna start thinking they can use him as cannon fodder to pump up B-level guy's records, but then Veach is gonna start killing guys & ruin Dana's plans!!! :punch: :punch: :punch:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:48 PM
Dude, what is taking Demarques so long?? It's been like half an hour since Veach's fight & still no word on how Brad Blackburn died!!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:49 PM
:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: AH-HA!!! ASK & YE SHALL RECIEVE!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:
DaMarques Johnson def. Brad Blackburn via TKO (strikes) - Round 3

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 03:54 PM
:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: AH-HA!!! ASK & YE SHALL RECIEVE!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:

Do you think they'll show some of the prelims if the main fights finish early? :w00t:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 03:56 PM
Do you think they'll show some of the prelims if the main fights finish early? :w00t:
I certainly hope so! If not, I know a site where I can download them later this afternoon, so I'll hook you up if need be! :wink:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 04:06 PM
I certainly hope so! If not, I know a site where I can download them later this afternoon, so I'll hook you up if need be! :wink:

:)

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:11 PM
:)
:cool:

flo
04-10-2010, 04:16 PM
I certainly hope so! If not, I know a site where I can download them later this afternoon, so I'll hook you up if need be! :wink:

Yay!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:21 PM
Yay!
I don't recall offering to hook you up...:unsure-1:






















...but I'll do it anyway!! :tongue0011:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:23 PM
Meh
Rick Story def. Nick Osipczak via unanimous decisionI was kinda hoping for Story to lose since he beat Brian, but whatever.

billwilliams70
04-10-2010, 04:29 PM
What are the prelims on? I've got the PPV on right now and there are no fights.....just the previews.

Later.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:32 PM
What are the prelims on? I've got the PPV on right now and there are no fights.....just the previews.

Later.
I'm just getting my info here: http://mmajunkie.com/news/18649/ufc-112-play-by-play-and-live-results.mma

I don't think they're doing pre-lims on Spike now, but they might tonight at 9.

billwilliams70
04-10-2010, 04:34 PM
I'm just getting my info here: http://mmajunkie.com/news/18649/ufc-112-play-by-play-and-live-results.mma

I don't think they're doing pre-lims on Spike now, but they might tonight at 9.
Word!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:37 PM
Word!
BTW, for those who missed it, check out DaMarques rocking the old-school Jazz shorts! :laugh:

http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c54102/x2_10fe5bb

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:42 PM
Front entrance to the arena:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/84966826.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1270918713&Signature=39tGOe17HidIlFj1eqefEUDOtJE%3D

flo
04-10-2010, 04:43 PM
I don't recall offering to hook you up...:unsure-1:



:ashamed::cry:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:44 PM
:ashamed::cry:
Now listen, young lady: if you're going to be fussy, I'll just send you to your room until you can behave!

flo
04-10-2010, 04:44 PM
...but I'll do it anyway!! :tongue0011:

:happydancing:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:46 PM
:happydancing:
That's more like it! :wink: :laugh:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 04:47 PM
Front entrance to the arena:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/84966826.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1270918713&Signature=39tGOe17HidIlFj1eqefEUDOtJE%3D

That looks like Matt right in the middle (BIG bottom photo)! :w00t: Or at least his pic looks bigger than the others....maybe I'm just projecting. :laugh:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 04:49 PM
That looks like Matt right in the middle (BIG bottom photo)! :w00t:
Yeah, but the UFC's caved to popular opinio & put Renzo up top with the champs while Matt's down below with the challengers. :punch:

Latest update:
Phil Davis def. Alexander Gustafsson via submission (Anaconda Choke) - Round 1, 4:55

NOW COMES THE PPV!!!!!

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 05:01 PM
Yeah, but the UFC's caved to popular opinio & put Renzo up top with the champs while Matt's down below with the challengers. :punch:

Latest update:


NOW COMES THE PPV!!!!!

WHAT!!! :angry: I thought that was D. Maia on top.

That's okay, Renzo will be on the bottom soon enough. :punch:

:laugh:

Btw, what happened to the picture? I was going to go back and look again. :unsure:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:04 PM
WHAT!!! :angry: I thought that was D. Maia on top.

That's okay, Renzo will be on the bottom soon enough. :punch:

:laugh:

Btw, what happened to the picture? I was going to go back and look again. :unsure:
Wow, I dunno. :blink:

I got it from the UFC's twitter pics page. Maybe they took it down? :unsure:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:32 PM
Stupid residents/prospective tenants wanting me to do my friggin' job, keeping me from watching the UFC :muttering:

Sorry, here's the results from Munoz/Grove:
MARK MUNOZ VS. KENDALL GROVE

R1 � As expected, Munoz quickly scores a takedown, but Grove is back to his feet quickly and made Munoz pay with an uppercut that hurt him. As Munoz continues to work for a second takedown, Grove punishes him with hammerfists. Munoz won�t give up on the shot, but they are separated when the action stalls. Grove sprawls out on a Munoz shot and nearly locks up a choke, but Munoz escapes and clips Grove with a couple punches. Munoz shoots again and gets caught in a guillotine choke, but once again escapes what looked to be a tight choke. Munoz won�t give up on the takedown, and again gets caught in a guillotine, but escapes before the bell.

MMAWeekly.com scores the round 10-9 for Grove

R2 � Munoz lands a strong right hand, but Grove drops him with a knee to the head from the clinch. Grove follows him down and takes Munoz�s back. Munoz escapes and starts ground and pound from Grove�s guard, punishing the body. Grove trying to kick Munoz off, but Munoz dives in and brutalizes Grove in a brutal assault until the referee stops the punishment.

Mark Munoz def. Kendall Grove by TKO (Strikes) at 2:50, R2


Etim/dos Anjos is starting now.

Anyone needing a stream: PM me.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:39 PM
Wow, I've never heard of a stand up because of "Spine strikes". Is this ref hoping to be the new Maz?

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:41 PM
Well crap, there goes my stream! :frantics:

Guess I'm back to reading PbPs. :cry:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:42 PM
TERRY ETIM VS. RAFAEL DOS ANJOS

R1 � They start off trading kicks, but Dos Anjos quickly switches to shooting in for the takedown, but gets caught in a guillotine choke on the way down. Etim combines the choke with a triangle body lock, but Dos Anjos remains calm, eventually popping his head out. Dos Anjos immediately passes to side control and starts kneeing. Referee Mark Goddard warns Dos Anjos for kneeing too close to the spine and stands the fight back up. They clinch and Dos Anjos trips Etim down, but lands on bottom. Etim starts working from Dos Anjos� guard, but isn�t able to amass much damage before the round ends.

MMAWeekly.com scores the round 10-9 for Etim.

logrus
04-10-2010, 05:43 PM
Well crap, there goes my stream! :frantics:

Guess I'm back to reading PbPs. :cry:

Lost both of mine too

bj44
04-10-2010, 05:45 PM
GSP needs to train with dos anjos lol

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 05:47 PM
Lost both of mine too
This ain't cool, man! :frantics:

R2 � Dos Anjos starts off with a couple strong inside leg kicks. They clinch and Etim lands a knee to the chin before getting taken down by Dos Anjos, who starts working from side control. Dos Anjos tries to gain mount, but moves back to side control and drops a couple hard elbows to the face of Etim then transitions to full mount. Etim quickly defends and gains half guard, but Dos Anjos moves back to side control and dropping elbows. He moves to north-south and tries for a Kimura on Etim�s left arm, can�t get it, and then transitions to an armbar for the finish.
I guess that answer the obvious question of "Which is better: a BJJ Black Belt or a Lutre Livre Blue Belt?" :laugh:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 05:53 PM
Two good fights so far! :)

Boy, that Munoz's fists are brutal! :punch:

I don't like that ref. And what's up with that...he reffed both fights. Don't they usually change out after each match.

I pray Matt gets a good ref for his fight!

bj44
04-10-2010, 05:57 PM
Matts fight is about to start!!!!!

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:01 PM
I certainly hope so! If not, I know a site where I can download them later this afternoon, so I'll hook you up if need be! :wink:

can you hook me up too Ben?

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:03 PM
can you hook me up too Ben?
Of course, man! I'll PM you later today once I got something solid.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:08 PM
ANYBODY FIND A NEW STREAM?????


I'm about to puke over here! :sick:

bj44
04-10-2010, 06:09 PM
close first round but i think it goes to matt

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:09 PM
MATT HUGHES VS. RENZO GRACIE

R1 � Neither fighter willing to commit early, both gauging range. Loud chants of Renzo roll through the crowd. Gracie launches a boxing combination, but Hughes pushes him against the cage and dirty boxes him for a moment before they split. Again they clinch and Hughes pushes Gracie to the cage, this time kneeing his legs. Gracie tosses him off and separates. They dance around the center of the Octagon, Hughes landing a few individual leg kicks, and Gracie trying to get his boxing started.

MMAWeekly.com scores the round 10-9 for Hughes

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:12 PM
ANYBODY FIND A NEW STREAM?????


I'm about to puke over here! :sick:

channelsurfing.net but you have to download their player to watch it and I'm not sure how good it is.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:13 PM
channelsurfing.net but you have to download their player to watch it and I'm not sure how good it is.
Crap, I'm at work. Downloading new stuff is a no-go!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:15 PM
R2 � Gracie tries to establish the jab, while Hughes goes back to his most effective move of round one, the leg kick, visibly stinging Gracie a couple of times early in the round. They clinch and trip to the ground, but are quickly back on their feet for the stand-up. Hughes again chopping at Gracie�s lead leg with the low kick. The crowd boos as there�s still no sustained action midway through the round. Gracie finally lands a leg kick of his own, but eats a short left hook from Hughes, who then goes back to the leg kicks on Gracie�s lead leg. Hughes land a good jab-leg kick combo before eating a straight right. Gracie shoots and almost gets caught in a guillotine. They clinch and Hughes pushes Gracie to the fence as the round ends.

MMAWeekly.com scores the round 10-9 for Hughes.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:17 PM
According to Chuck (who's actually watchign the fights), Renzo looks to be gassed. Here's hoping Matt cranks it up a few notches & puts a hurting on him!

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:17 PM
man...my heart beat is racing just reading this....

Rev
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
I am about to die dude.

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
According to Chuck (who's actually watchign the fights), Renzo looks to be gassed. Here's hoping Matt cranks it up a few notches & puts a hurting on him!

I want to see a picture of renzo's leg tomorrow or even later tonight...I'm guessing it's going to be a few shades of different colors

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
man...my heart beat is racing just reading this....
Mine too, dude! I'm making the MMAWeekly server work overtime right now with how often I'm refreshing that page!!!

bj44
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
matts taking it to him on the feet... just dropped renzo with a leg kick lol

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
I'm going back and forth between there and here

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:20 PM
damn matss taking it to him on the feet... just dropped renzo with a leg kick lol

WHAT???? THAT'S AWESOME

bj44
04-10-2010, 06:21 PM
Hughes by ko!!!!!!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:21 PM
matts taking it to him on the feet... just dropped renzo with a leg kick lol
ROCK ON!!! Chuck says he wins by TKO!!!!!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:22 PM
R3 – Hughes again starts chopping away at Gracie’s lead leg with the low kicks and Gracie does nothing to check the kicks or move away from them. Hughes lands a straight right, and Gracie looks very frustrated, can’t seem to get anything going. Hughes pushes him to the fence, lands a few knees, then pulls him away from the fence, keeping his weight on him, then separates and rocks Gracie with a strong boxing combination, but doesn’t really push to finish. Hughes throws the leg kick and Gracie falls to the mat. Referee Herb Dean motions from Gracie to get up and Hughes actually extends a hand to help him up. They start up and Hughes kicks out the leg again dropping Gracie, who gets back up, but is wavering, just trying to finish the fight. Hughes drops him again with a right hand, but backs off, making Gracie stand again. Hughes then moves in and drops Gracie once again with a boxing combination and the fight is waved off.

:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:

flo
04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!


WAR HUGHESSSS!!!!

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:23 PM
Hughes by ko!!!!!!

WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:24 PM
:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: I hope I didn't just scare the crap outta any of my residents! I'm hollering like a mad man right now!!!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:25 PM
:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:

It's official:
Matt Hughes def. Renzo Gracie by TKO (Strikes) at 4:40, R3


:happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 06:26 PM
MATT!!!! MATT!!!! MATTTTT HUGESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! :punch:

:happydancing::happydancing::happydancing:

bj44
04-10-2010, 06:27 PM
Matt been training with Ernesto Hoost or what?.... Awesome leg kicks!!!!

Llamafighter
04-10-2010, 06:28 PM
HE did great and Boomer was in his corner!!!!!

Rev
04-10-2010, 06:28 PM
So I guess Matt is the knew Gracie hunter!!!! LOL
WAR HUGHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Llamafighter
04-10-2010, 06:28 PM
Matt been training with Ernesto Hoost or what?.... Awesome leg kicks!!!!

those were really hard kicks

Jeval
04-10-2010, 06:29 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happydancing:

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:30 PM
HE did great and Boomer was in his corner!!!!!

Boomer came out with Matt?

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 06:33 PM
Yes, Boomer was part of his corner!!! :happydancing:

And, did anyone else see Christie (Phillips4) when Buffer announced Matt? I did! :frantics:


TKO baby!!!!!! :punch::punch::punch:

Awesome leg kicks by Matt!!!!

Matt's just AWESOME!!! :happydancing:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:33 PM
Boomer came out with Matt?
YEAH!! BOOMER WAS ONE OF HIS CORNER MEN!!!!!



(SORRY, I DON'T I'LL BE ABLE TO TURN "CAPS LOCK" OFF FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH OR SO. I'M SO PUMPED RIGHT NOW!!!!!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:)

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 06:39 PM
WAAARRRRRR MAAAAAAAAAAATTTT HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES !!!!!!!

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:44 PM
Hahahaha, does anyone even care about these next two random fights? Who's even in 'em, anyhow? :happydancing: :frantics: :laugh:

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:45 PM
YEAH!! BOOMER WAS ONE OF HIS CORNER MEN!!!!!



(SORRY, I DON'T I'LL BE ABLE TO TURN "CAPS LOCK" OFF FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH OR SO. I'M SO PUMPED RIGHT NOW!!!!!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:)

That's awesome that Boomer was in his corner. I haven't been on the site too much except for checking Matt's blog. That's so cool.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:46 PM
That's awesome that Boomer was in his corner. I haven't been on the site too much except for checking Matt's blog. That's so cool.
You should go check out Boomer's Tale over HERE (http://matt-hughes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4834). It's really cool & well written! :happydancing:

SteveT
04-10-2010, 06:56 PM
You should go check out Boomer's Tale over HERE (http://matt-hughes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4834). It's really cool & well written! :happydancing:

Classic Boomer tale....the man should write a book when Matt retires of his adventures lol

logrus
04-10-2010, 06:57 PM
This awesome, now I can enjoy the wedding and not worry about my boy anymore.

GRATS to MATT !! :punch:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Classic Boomer tale....the man should write a book when Matt retires of his adventures lol
Dude, I would love a Boomer Biography!! :w00t:

bj44
04-10-2010, 06:59 PM
The edgar/Penn fight is a really close fight going into the fifth

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:00 PM
This awesome, now I can enjoy the wedding and not worry about my boy anymore.

GRATS to MATT !! :punch:
Hahaha, I hear you, dude! Never have I ben so glad to have an appointment bail on me with no heds up!! :laugh:

bj44
04-10-2010, 07:08 PM
We have a new Lw champion hahaha. :laugh:

GnP
04-10-2010, 07:09 PM
Yes get in Frankie great display. BJ back to the old conditiong problems looked shattered by the third. He also never looked to finish once, seems appropriate to mention that after recent comments about champions fighting to win or finish the fight :)

bj44
04-10-2010, 07:11 PM
Yes get in Frankie great display. BJ back to the old conditiong problems looked shattered by the third. He also never looked to finish once, seems appropriate to mention that after recent comments about champions fighting to win or finish the fight :)

yeah atleast GSP cam close to finishing Hardy... Penn nutthuggers have to eat alot of crow now... Max and atomdanger im looking at you :laugh:

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 07:14 PM
max and atom gonna be with the excuses out the wazoo .... LOL ... BJ already has the xray to show he had a broken rib/dislocated shoulder/bruised vag

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:15 PM
yeah atleast GSP cam close to finishing Hardy... Penn nutthuggers have to eat alot of crow now... Max and atomdanger im looking at you :laugh:
I wonder how long they'll disappear for? :Whistle:

GnP
04-10-2010, 07:16 PM
yeah atleast GSP cam close to finishing Hardy... Penn nutthuggers have to eat alot of crow now... Max and atomdanger im looking at you :laugh:

Great ready for the excuse wagon to roll into town. BJ hurt or fighting outside didn't help him or frankie had jumping beans surgicaly implanted into his feet etc etc

logrus
04-10-2010, 07:18 PM
I figured he would give Penn trouble, but I never figured this much trouble. Penn didn't look sharp at all, an look to be on empty most of the fight.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:18 PM
Great ready for the excuse wagon to roll into town. BJ hurt or fighting outside didn't help him or frankie had jumping beans surgicaly implanted into his feet etc etc
This just in from TitoOrtiz.com: BJ was fighting with a cracked skull.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:20 PM
FYI: Matt Hughes now has sole-ownership of the record for most wins inside the Octagon (17). Prior to today, he share that distinction with Chuck Liddell (16).

logrus
04-10-2010, 07:23 PM
Well least when Penn lost the title it wasn't to a 4 foot tall putz who had to jump 3 feet just to clip the chin... :unsure-1:

bj44
04-10-2010, 07:25 PM
Well least when Penn lost the title it wasn't to a 4 foot tall putz who had to jump 3 feet just to clip the chin... :unsure-1:

Serra is the same height as Edgar but nice try lol

GnP
04-10-2010, 07:25 PM
This just in from TitoOrtiz.com: BJ was fighting with a cracked skull.

Haha and the post of the day goes to

logrus
04-10-2010, 07:34 PM
Serra is the same height as Edgar but nice try lol

lol, well at least I tried, what else could I do. My stream was choppy so I couldnt really even tell what was Penns problem to actually make a valid argument other then he looked tired early on.

Hey maybe he's not accustomed to hot weather... :laugh:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:36 PM
lol, well at least I tried, what else could I do. My stream was choppy so I couldnt really even tell what was Penns problem to actually make a valid argument other then he looked tired early on.

Hey maybe he's not accustomed to hot weather... :laugh:
Yeah, I hear those Hawaiian guys really hate the sand! :laugh:

Jeval
04-10-2010, 07:36 PM
I think I'd rather see Anderson knock someone out in 10 seconds instead of seeing him taunt and dance around trying to lure the guy in.

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:37 PM
I think I'd rather see Anderson knock someone out in 10 seconds instead of seeing him taunt and dance around trying to lure the guy in.
I think I'd like to see Anderson lose so he doesn't break Matt's record! :punch:

Llamafighter
04-10-2010, 07:38 PM
YEAH!! BOOMER WAS ONE OF HIS CORNER MEN!!!!!



(SORRY, I DON'T I'LL BE ABLE TO TURN "CAPS LOCK" OFF FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH OR SO. I'M SO PUMPED RIGHT NOW!!!!!! :happydancing: :happydancing: :happydancing:)

Boomer is wearing a TEAM HUGHES college shirt. Now available in the shop:)
I can finally eat something..

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 07:39 PM
I think I'd like to see Anderson lose so he doesn't break Matt's record! :punch:

I almost wish Maia could knock him out. We've had such good fights; it's sad if this is going to be how this goes down. :wink:

Why doesn't Anderson go in and finish it instead of all those antics?

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:43 PM
Boomer is wearing a TEAM HUGHES college shirt. Now available in the shop:)
I can finally eat something.. I have one of those!! :happydancing:

I'm almost wish Maia could knock him out. We've had such good fights; it's sad if this is going to be how this goes down. :wink:

Why doesn't Anderson go in and finish it instead of all those antics?
Because he doesn't have to & doesn't want to risk getting caught in something. It's not the most entertaining method, but he'll win.

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 07:48 PM
say what you want about GSP taking people down and punishing people for 4 rounds, but here you have BJ losing to a natural 145 pounder and anderson clowning acting like a moron, yeah, he is good, but classless ...

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 07:50 PM
Rogan just said that Dana walked over to Ed Soares and said something to him and that Dana didn't look happy about what's going on.

The crowd is booooooo! I'm with the crowd and D. Maia (even though he is losing).

Enough with the "cat and mouse" antics....FIGHT!!!

timmyja
04-10-2010, 07:50 PM
25 minutes of molestation is not punishment. It is a crime

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:51 PM
25 minutes of molestation is not punishment. It is a crime
Are you talking about Anderson or Georges?

timmyja
04-10-2010, 07:53 PM
LOL both. I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I'm reading it isn't impressive

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:54 PM
LOL both. I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I'm reading it isn't impressive
Yeah, sounds like Anderson's trying to turn Kalib Starnes' strategy into an offense somehow? :blink:

timmyja
04-10-2010, 07:57 PM
LMAO, Kalib Starnes offense. I miss the good old days. When the champions would FIGHT. Matt, Chuck, Rich, Randy...

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 07:59 PM
Sounds like Anderson snoozed his way to victory. I wonder how Dana's going to react...

Tyburn
04-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Soooo My pick in Veach fell flat, my pick against Johnson fell flat...Hughes Won...The Reign of Darkness ends in the LightWeight Division...and Anderson Silva is still being an arse....am I about right.

I was so confident I didnt even have to watch.


okay...so I forgot they were AHEAD of ME in time... :sad:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 08:03 PM
Soooo My pick in Veach fell flat, my pick against Johnson fell flat...Hughes Won...The Reign of Darkness ends in the LightWeight Division...and Anderson Silva is still being an arse....am I about right.

I was so confident I didnt even have to watch.


okay...so I forgot they were AHEAD of ME in time... :sad:
Hahaha, that about sums it up, Dave! :laugh:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Dana didn't even come into the ring to put the belt around Anderson! It was just handed to, I guess that was Ed Soares, from some guy. I think Dana said how he felt loud and clear with that!

The crowd was chanting Maia, Maia.... and booing Anderson. Anderson was apologizing saying, "I don't know what came over me....it was ring rust" Blah, blah, blah.... :angry: Is that what happened in the last two fights also? :wink:

Anderson has totally lost me as a fan right now.

What a shame to end these fights like this.....AGAIN!!!

Oh, and Magliotta actually stopped the fight at one point in the last round and warned Anderson that if he kept going round and round the ring, he was going to take a point away from him! I was getting dizzy just watching him play ring around the rosy. :blink:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Dana didn't even come into the ring to put the belt around Anderson! It was just handed to, I guess that was Ed Soares, from some guy. I think Dana said how he felt loud and clear with that!

The crowd was chanting Maia, Maia.... and booing Anderson. Anderson was apologizing saying, "I don't know what came over me....it was ring rust" Blah, blah, blah.... :angry: Is that what happened in the last two fights also? :wink:

Anderson has totally lost me as a fan right now.

What a shame to end these fights like this.....AGAIN!!!
That's pretty disappointing. I mean, c'mon, dude! If Maia was running after him like they say he was, why didn't he just Forrest his @$$?

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 08:08 PM
man .... i was with anderson in the leites fight, but this was just ridiculous .. and then apologizing ... i don't know man .... that was just weird .... anderson shoulda finished him in the first instead of being a moron ... he could have finished that with ease ...

dana is maaad ...

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:08 PM
That's pretty disappointing. I mean, c'mon, dude! If Maia was running after him like they say he was, why didn't he just Forrest his @$$?

I "edited"; go back and read what I said about Magliotta at the end of my post above. :)

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 08:10 PM
That's pretty disappointing. I mean, c'mon, dude! If Maia was running after him like they say he was, why didn't he just Forrest his @$$?

i honestly don't think he likes fighting brazilians or giving them beatdowns ... cuz he coulda forrested him fast

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Let's talk about something pleasant....like Matt's fight. :laugh:

One funny thing, in the last round, Matt had kicked Renzo's leg 'til it was going out from under him and he had fallen down. Renzo told Matt, "Give me a hand up" and Matt did. That made everyone smile. Two great guys. I really loved the way both of them showed such respect for each other.

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:14 PM
That's pretty disappointing. I mean, c'mon, dude! If Maia was running after him like they say he was, why didn't he just Forrest his @$$?

Maia was trying his best to "fight", but Anderson was acting like a fool! :angry:

bj44
04-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Im a big damien maia fan after tonight.... He in no way should be critisized by anyone.

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:16 PM
i honestly don't think he likes fighting brazilians or giving them beatdowns ... cuz he coulda forrested him fast

I think you're giving him too much credit RNC. He could have finished Maia; I guess he thought he was being "cute". Didn't go over well with the crowd or Dana.

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 08:16 PM
Let's talk about something pleasant....like Matt's fight. :laugh:

One funny thing, in the last round, Matt had kicked Renzo's leg 'til it was going out from under him and he had fallen down. Renzo told Matt, "Give me a hand up" and Matt did. That made everyone smile. Two great guys. I really loved the way both of them showed such respect for each other.

that was funny, but imo should have been stopped there .. anyway, matt got his win with emphasis ... love it ...

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 08:18 PM
I think you're giving him too much credit RNC. He could have finished Maia; I guess he thought he was being "cute". Didn't go over well with the crowd or Dana.

maybe ... i just don't see how he beats guys like franklin, forrest, henderson like he does, than pulls out fights like this ...

Tyburn
04-10-2010, 08:18 PM
What happened with BJ Penn...how do you have such a dominant reign...and then get beaten by decision at championship level :huh:

I dont mean to be funny...but I'm very suprised. :blink:

Anderson Silva...like I said...he needs to be stripped or something. I think that Dana White should force a his next fight to be against Lyoto...and tell him if he wont fight, he can have his P45 posted to him.

Time to vote him off this Island :laugh: ....those of you who know what I'm like, should just fast forward through this video and listen between mark :ninja: 7.00-8.00 :laugh: I called it. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gq39IYqXuA

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 08:20 PM
What happened with BJ Penn...how do you have such a dominant reign...and then get beaten by decision at championship level :huh:

I dont mean to be funny...but I'm very suprised. :blink:

Anderson Silva...like I said...he needs to be stripped or something. I think that Dana White should force a his next fight to be against Lyoto...and tell him if he wont fight, he can have his P45 posted to him.

Time to vote him off this Island :laugh: ....those of you who know what I'm like, should just fast forward through this video and listen between mark :ninja: 7.00-8.00 :laugh: I called it. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gq39IYqXuA

BJ just looked like he didn't want to fight ... don't know what it was ... was he frustrated with frankie's movement? but frankie took the fight to him ... still no max, atom or que ...

bj44
04-10-2010, 08:20 PM
What happened with BJ Penn...how do you have such a dominant reign...and then get beaten by decision at championship level :huh:

I dont mean to be funny...but I'm very suprised. :blink:

Anderson Silva...like I said...he needs to be stripped or something. I think that Dana White should force a his next fight to be against Lyoto...and tell him if he wont fight, he can have his P45 posted to him.

Time to vote him off this Island :laugh: ....those of you who know what I'm like, should just fast forward through this video and listen between mark :ninja: 7.00-8.00 :laugh: I called it. :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gq39IYqXuA

Even he thought the critism that GSP got was unreasonable so he wanted to show what it really was like to take no chances and do nothing in a fight. That way the haters would stop being dumb and unjustified :laugh:

Liddellfan
04-10-2010, 08:22 PM
Silva is terrible IMO. That's NOT what a Champion does. The UFC should impliment a "yellow card" like PRIDE did and take a sum of the fighter salary for stalling.

Anderson goes up to 205 where he has nothing to lose and fights. He defends his title and acts like a clown. Guess we will see what happens when Vitor comes at him and he has no choice but to fight.

Total disrespect for the UFC title and the entire sport of MMA.




Great job Matt Hughes, AWESOME fight.

Penn vs Edgar.....rematch? What's the excuse?

Tyburn
04-10-2010, 08:24 PM
BJ just looked like he didn't want to fight ... don't know what it was ... was he frustrated with frankie's movement? but frankie took the fight to him ... still no max, atom or que ...

:unsure-1: I feel a bit sad for Max...because I know he LOVES BJ Penn...and...well if you have to get beaten, its best for you to put on a top performance but go down in a blaze of glory...rather then fizzle.

did BJ do this deliberately so he could fight at WelterWeight?? or will his loss, now actually but an absolute block on moving and actually now he's really in a bad place...could it be the travel...

BJ Penn flying from Hawaii all the way to the Middle East...its about as far as you can go...might that not have helpped?? I dont know...

I'm not as over the moon as I thought I'd be :blink:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:25 PM
maybe ... i just don't see how he beats guys like franklin, forrest, henderson like he does, than pulls out fights like this ...

I don't know if he's "bored" at this point in his career or what? He can keep his apology as far as I'm concerned. He's antics are not becoming of a champion. This is the third straight fight (I think it's three) where he has done this. I didn't even realize Dana hadn't come in to put the belt around him until my husband pointed it out and we rewound to see what happened.

My husband said the same thing as Dave, Dana should strip Anderson of his belt. Is this what he plans to do if he fights GSP. I'm not a GSP fan, but if that were to happen, I might become one....at least for that fight. :wink:

Tyburn
04-10-2010, 08:28 PM
Even he thought the critism that GSP got was unreasonable so he wanted to show what it really was like to take no chances and do nothing in a fight. That way the haters would stop being dumb and unjustified :laugh:

:laugh: Perhaps he read that thread with me and J.B the real interesting one...and it reminded him of WHY he was supposed to be sabotaging his own career....:)

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

NO...I KNOW....so Anderson Silva has been Murdered by Kalib Starnes, who wants revenge on the insitution. Sooo he's had reconstructive sergery...and now he looks like Anderson Silva...but he cant move like Anderson Silva...which is fine because he wants to bring down the UFC for its unfair attitude towards him when he beat Nathan Quarry in the 100 metre Sprint :laugh:

Bonnie
04-10-2010, 08:29 PM
Silva is terrible IMO. That's NOT what a Champion does. The UFC should impliment a "yellow card" like PRIDE did and take a sum of the fighter salary for stalling.

Anderson goes up to 205 where he has nothing to lose and fights. He defends his title and acts like a clown. Guess we will see what happens when Vitor comes at him and he has no choice but to fight.

Total disrespect for the UFC title and the entire sport of MMA.




Great job Matt Hughes, AWESOME fight.

Penn vs Edgar.....rematch? What's the excuse?

Agreed! He was a total disgrace!

timmyja
04-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Right about now, Dana is scratching his head and wishing he had kept his word after UFC 100 about Hendo getting the title shot. Win, lose or draw, it would have made Anderson actually fight.

Josh
04-10-2010, 08:38 PM
Matt is the man! winning with standup I love it. I am surprised with Edgar. I have always thought he had the best chance of beating Penn at 155 but I thought he would lose. Dana needs to trade Anderson for Hendo.

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 08:46 PM
WOW!

Maybe some people will now see what I said about how competetive the LW division is. Frankie looked great tonight and showed why he is my favourite LW other than BJ. BJ didn't look terrible but training in Hilo instead of the LA camp he used for the last 2 fights, the hunger was not there tonight. I watched the card with some friends and said BJ didn't look right during the introductions. He needs to spend his training camps away from Hilo, he just looked a different beast against Kenny and Diego. Great fight though!

Anderson, what the hell was that? He'll be all business next time. Props to Maia too, Anderson may have switched off but Maia's face was busted up bad!

Matt looked great going back to orthodox like I've said he should do previously, those leg kicks were painful to watch! His hands are so much more effective from that stance too.

Really good show and even as a BJ fan, I'm so happy for Frankie right now. Across various forums I often feel like the only one who believes in him, and he proved me right tonight. Mad, mad props to 'The Answer'.

StizzoFoShizzo
04-10-2010, 08:52 PM
:unsure-1: I feel a bit sad for Max...because I know he LOVES BJ Penn...and...well if you have to get beaten, its best for you to put on a top performance but go down in a blaze of glory...rather then fizzle.

did BJ do this deliberately so he could fight at WelterWeight?? or will his loss, now actually but an absolute block on moving and actually now he's really in a bad place...could it be the travel...

BJ Penn flying from Hawaii all the way to the Middle East...its about as far as you can go...might that not have helpped?? I dont know...

I'm not as over the moon as I thought I'd be :blink:


I think I read somewhere that BJ flew out there 3 or 4 weeks early to finish up his training out there to prevent jet lag or anything like that from affecting the fight.
Did anyone else see Frankie getting whiped off between rounds? I smell another greasegate lol ;).

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 08:54 PM
I think I read somewhere that BJ flew out there 3 or 4 weeks early to finish up his training out there to prevent jet lag or anything like that from affecting the fight.
Did anyone else see Frankie getting whiped off between rounds? I smell another greasegate lol ;).

C'mon! BJ didn't try to take him down, he was going for the KO but just didn't get after it enough tonight.

billwilliams70
04-10-2010, 08:54 PM
I was glad that Hughes won. I would have liked to see more of the violence that Matt spoke of on the countdown though.

Very displeased with Penn's performance. He certainly didn't look like the best lightweight ever. Not sure how long Edgar will hold this belt either.

Silva came across as a classless person.......What boggles my mind is how Silva got so upset at Maia for not "fighting" but everytime Maia layed down the best pound for pound fighter in the world wouldn't take a chance. Silva was avoiding Maia's strengths the same way Maia was avoiding Silva's.

Later.

Chuck
04-10-2010, 08:57 PM
I'm not a GSP fan.....
Nobody's perfect. :D


Did anyone else see Frankie getting whiped off between rounds?

I caught that too... pretty interesting.

Matt looked really good. The leg kicks were impressive and his hands looked crisp. I was sooooo convinced he was going to get a KO but no dice! I'll take the TKO with no problems. :D

StizzoFoShizzo
04-10-2010, 09:00 PM
Loved how Matts fight ended, but that wasn't anywhere near one of his best performances. If it was any other fighter I would have called this fight boring, but at least it was finished before a decision. but I like Matt so much that he could be in there playing patt cake and I would be on the edge of my seat LoL!

Max
04-10-2010, 09:05 PM
im gonna go ahead and say congrats to Edgar. He is now the best LW in the world. Looks like BJ will be holding off that move to 170. From all the play by play's Ive read they gave the nod to BJ but thats the risk you take when you let it go to a dec.

bj44
04-10-2010, 09:07 PM
way to take it like a man Max :applause:

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:12 PM
If he stays out of Hilo for training, the Prodigy will be back better than ever.

StizzoFoShizzo
04-10-2010, 09:12 PM
C'mon! BJ didn't try to take him down, he was going for the KO but just didn't get after it enough tonight.

exactly, no excuses! I was actually being sarcsatic about the greasegate thing though. Some of those judges seemed a little out to lunch with their scores, but at least this time they got the right fighter. Frankie was just the better, smarter, and hungrier fighter today. I don't know why BJ wouldn't try to take Frankie down. BJs corner was calling for it, but BJ instead did his best Andy Wang impression. It funny how mad BJ got at Andy on TUF for not lisening and taking the fight to the ground. Now BJ does the exact same thing, only this was worse cause it was for the title not some spot in a reality tv show. Who would have thought that Frankie was going to takedown BJ? I honostly thought that was going to backfire on him, but it didn't and I think they might have sealed the deal for him in a couple of those rounds.

Max
04-10-2010, 09:14 PM
way to take it like a man Max :applause:

I dont know what you expected. Im not sure if fighting in AD had an effect on BJ but no matter Edgar won and thats what counts. BJ learned a lot from his past few losses and I expect him to do the same this time.

bj44
04-10-2010, 09:18 PM
I dont know what you expected. Im not sure if fighting in AD had an effect on BJ but no matter Edgar won and thats what counts. BJ learned a lot from his past few losses and I expect him to do the same this time.

your not gonna critisize him like you did GSP?... Ateast GSP tried to finish his fight... Atleast GSP can adapt when his gameplan isnt working.. Atleast GSP is still champion :)

Max
04-10-2010, 09:21 PM
your not gonna critisize him like you did GSP?... Ateast GSP tried to finish his fight... Atleast GSP can adapt when his gameplan isnt working.. Atleast GSP is still champion :)

I have not seen the fight only read the play by play so I cant say much. This is the first time BJ has gone to a dec since moving down to LW so I cant say to many bad things about it. If after this though he turns into a dec machine I will def have an issue with that.

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:25 PM
bj44, Please don't turn this thread into another GSP/BJ debate. It was a CLOSE fight - I don't what one judge was watching. BJ was scoring points on the feet and looked for the KO, it just didn't happen for him tonight. At least it was exciting. How about giving Frankie some effing credit? It was a great performance.

bj44
04-10-2010, 09:27 PM
I have not seen the fight only read the play by play so I cant say much. This is the first time BJ has gone to a dec since moving down to LW so I cant say to many bad things about it. If after this though he turns into a dec machine I will def have an issue with that.

He didnt go after it at all and gassed to boot... Id like to think its karma to all the penn fans saying hes p4p better then GSP and that hes boring after the last fight... I know im being almost as big a douche as anderson silva but penn nuthuggers deserve it more then anybody else :laugh:

bj44
04-10-2010, 09:29 PM
bj44, Please don't turn this thread into another GSP/BJ debate. It was a CLOSE fight - I don't what one judge was watching. BJ was scoring points on the feet and looked for the KO, it just didn't happen for him tonight. At least it was exciting. How about giving Frankie some effing credit? It was a great performance.

haha why not penn nuthuggers always do... Thers to many of them here so i need to balance it out :laugh:... Ok ill stop now :ninja:

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:31 PM
He didnt go after it at all and gassed to boot... Id like to think its karma to all the penn fans saying hes p4p better then GSP and that hes boring after the last fight... I know im being almost as big a douche as anderson silva but penn nuthuggers deserve it more then anybody else :laugh:

No, you're far worse than Anderson Silva was tonight. Your hating and opinion is beyond pathetic.

Chuck
04-10-2010, 09:31 PM
im gonna go ahead and say congrats to Edgar. He is now the best LW in the world. Looks like BJ will be holding off that move to 170. From all the play by play's Ive read they gave the nod to BJ but thats the risk you take when you let it go to a dec.
Well hat's off to you for being a stand up guy when your fighter loses his belt. I respect that.

BUT.... the nod to BJ??? I watched the fight and didn't see that at all... not even close... I had Edgar 3-2 maybe... 4-1 possibly.


your not gonna critisize him like you did GSP?... Ateast GSP tried to finish his fight... Atleast GSP can adapt when his gameplan isnt working.. Atleast GSP is still champion :)

Now that's just funny right there!!!

Chuck
04-10-2010, 09:33 PM
No, you're far worse than Anderson Silva was tonight. Your hating and opinion is beyond pathetic.

Hating??? Where is he hating? The only thing pathetic was the BS after Hardy got dominated by GSP... talk about bullcrap and excuses!!!

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:35 PM
Hating??? Where is he hating? The only thing pathetic was the BS after Hardy got dominated by GSP... talk about bullcrap and excuses!!!

He's always hating on BJ, its ridiculous.

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:39 PM
Sorry not just BJ, but BJ fans as well. Are Max, Que, myself and others always making stupid claims about BJ?

No we're not, we just respect his skills and enjoy watching him.

bj44
04-10-2010, 09:41 PM
He's always hating on BJ, its ridiculous.

Im hating on Penn when a whole thread after the GSP fight got turned into "BJ is better then GSP cus he finishes fights" a few weeks ago!!! NO if penn fans can dish it out they can take it too then... Penn has nothing to do with the Hardy vs GSP fight but penn fans turned it into that!!!

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 09:52 PM
Like I said in that other thread we're not saying BJ is the better fighter but he is more willing to take risks be it with his fighting style or fighting in different weight classes which makes him more entertaining in our opinion and that of non MMA fans I have watched various PPV's with.

Rev
04-10-2010, 10:15 PM
I'm saying BJ is a better fighter. So?
He got beat, he will come back and beat Edgar in a rematch.
Looks to me like someone is trying to stir up crap.

cubsfan47
04-10-2010, 10:18 PM
This just in from TitoOrtiz.com: BJ was fighting with a cracked skull.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

bj44
04-10-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm saying BJ is a better fighter. So?
He got beat, he will come back and beat Edgar in a rematch.
Looks to me like someone is trying to stir up crap.

Bj just lost to a guy that can make 145 easily... Hes not a better fighter then gsp.. Compare there records, compare there head to head fights.. GSp would nver gas out in a fight.. Penn has done it 3-4 times in his career.. Theres is no way after today that anybody can LOGICALLY say Penn is the better fighter.

GSP has beaten every fighter he has ever fought.. Neither Penn or Anderson can say that!!!

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 10:26 PM
I don't think BJ gassed, he was in good condition tonight but Frankie's cardio is insane.

Chuck
04-10-2010, 10:36 PM
I don't think BJ gassed, he was in good condition tonight but Frankie's cardio is insane.

He gassed. :huh:

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 10:41 PM
He was moving forward every second of every round dude.

bj44
04-10-2010, 10:42 PM
He was moving forward every second of every round dude.

He was gassed.. I think he cracked his rib in the third round though thats why. Plus Frankie was greased and probably is on steroids... I hate the way he always goes to decision too hes boring.

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 10:46 PM
Shut up! :laugh:

Chuck
04-10-2010, 10:47 PM
He was gassed.. I think he cracked his rib in the third round though thats why. Plus Frankie was greased and probably is on steroids... I hate the way he always goes to decision too hes boring.

:funny:

VCURamFan
04-10-2010, 10:49 PM
He was gassed.. I think he cracked his rib in the third round though thats why. Plus Frankie was greased and probably is on steroids... I hate the way he always goes to decision too hes boring.
This, +juan

rearnakedchoke
04-10-2010, 10:53 PM
seriously ... i was wondering what BJ was thinking .... was he thinking that he was winning the rounds? i don't know .. but he talked about taking risks in fights and that is what champs do .... and he didn't take one ... it was close ... but i still think FE did enough to win .... i don't want to hear any crap about, beating the champ blah blah ... i think BJ gets the belt back in his next shot ...

Liddellfan
04-10-2010, 10:59 PM
Fighters have good days and bad days. No matter what injury he claims, it's not going to change the fact that he lost. Edgar seemed to have the best day of his career today as a fighter and it showed.

Lets face the facts. BJ Penn lost the fight and the LW title. Edgar won, no excuses needed for BJ, he will most likely come up with them on his own. I didn't get to watch the fights yet but BJ needs to give Edgar a lot of respect and credit for how hard he has worked and how great of a fighter he has become. That would be the respectful and mature thing to do.

Maybe we will see Penn - Edgar 2 in the near future?

(don't understand why BJ would stay in Hilo to train after how good he has been doing when he trained away from home)

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 11:01 PM
He did.

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/4/10/1414714/bj-penn-ufc-112-post-fight

billwilliams70
04-10-2010, 11:07 PM
I like Penn as much as the next guy......but was REALLY disappointed in his performance today. He just wasn't on his game......maybe he overlooked Edgar, not sure, but he certainly didn't look like the same Penn that dismantled Sherk, Florian, Joe Daddy, or Sanchez.

Later.

Buc Nasty
04-10-2010, 11:09 PM
(don't understand why BJ would stay in Hilo to train after how good he has been doing when he trained away from home)

Exactly what I said. It showed tonight.

Maldonado136
04-10-2010, 11:38 PM
He was gassed.. I think he cracked his rib in the third round though thats why. Plus Frankie was greased and probably is on steroids... I hate the way he always goes to decision too hes boring.

lmao yes

Maldonado136
04-10-2010, 11:42 PM
Im hating on Penn when a whole thread after the GSP fight got turned into "BJ is better then GSP cus he finishes fights" a few weeks ago!!! NO if penn fans can dish it out they can take it too then... Penn has nothing to do with the Hardy vs GSP fight but penn fans turned it into that!!!

exactly. they are the ones who talk all the crap about gsp and then act like they arent in the wrong for doing it. They whine and complain more than anyone else and now they call other people haters. i feel bad for bj but his fans do deserve this and maybe they can stop making incredibly stupid threads about how gsp isnt a real champion. as far as the silva fight goes I said in other threads that it would be like the leites fight and I guess that isnt too far from the truth. At least the Hughes fight was awesome.

Buc Nasty
04-11-2010, 12:13 AM
exactly. they are the ones who talk all the crap about gsp and then act like they arent in the wrong for doing it. They whine and complain more than anyone else and now they call other people haters. i feel bad for bj but his fans do deserve this and maybe they can stop making incredibly stupid threads about how gsp isnt a real champion. as far as the silva fight goes I said in other threads that it would be like the leites fight and I guess that isnt too far from the truth. At least the Hughes fight was awesome.

Name one person who has said GSP isn't a real champion?

As far as I've seen in this thread BJ fans have done nothing but give Frankie credit for a great performance. Stop talking crap. If anyone deserves criticism tonight it is Anderson Silva, not BJ nor BJ fans.

Maldonado136
04-11-2010, 12:38 AM
Name one person who has said GSP isn't a real champion?

As far as I've seen in this thread BJ fans have done nothing but give Frankie credit for a great performance. Stop talking crap. If anyone deserves criticism tonight it is Anderson Silva, not BJ nor BJ fans.

I never criticized bj just some of his fans that DO deserve it despite what you say. just read some of the threads of them trashing gsp. and as far as your first question goes there is a thread by que and replies of people agreeing on this very forum! you shouldnt have a hard time finding it!!

rearnakedchoke
04-11-2010, 01:36 AM
Name one person who has said GSP isn't a real champion?

As far as I've seen in this thread BJ fans have done nothing but give Frankie credit for a great performance. Stop talking crap. If anyone deserves criticism tonight it is Anderson Silva, not BJ nor BJ fans.

http://www.matt-hughes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4772

here you go ... as far as i am concerned, GSP is a better champion after AS's antics tonite .. there are a couple of videos out there where Dana is asked if Anderson has a future in the UFC and he anwers "I don't know" ... we all know dana isn't getting rid of anderson, but when the boss says that about apparently the best champ in the world ... even dana is thinking about the fighter anderson is ...

Jeff Crow
04-11-2010, 03:09 AM
Frankie Edgar looked great. I think I big part of his plan was to not waste energy trying to take BJ down. If he didnt take him down immediatlely he let got and backed off. His head movement was great too. BJ couldnt find the range with that nasty jabl he has.

Spiritwalker
04-11-2010, 04:55 AM
Frankie looked great... Good win for him.

Anderson is a punk.. no respect for his opponent, the UFC or even the fans.

I do like that Dan raised his hand and walked away..

pistol-pete
04-11-2010, 05:55 AM
I didn't think Edgar did enough to win the fight, I also don't think Penn did enough to win the fight either. I will be really suprised to see that Frankie landed more punches and strikes than Penn. I thought Edgar had a good game plan, but I don't think he ever put Penn in any danger whatsoever.

Boring fight from both guys. Not why I pay to watch MMA.

Silva turned into a punk right before our eyes.

Hughes put together a great game plan, although I do believe Hughes has better overall grappling skills and could have won the fight going away on the mat. regardless, his leg kicks were just brutal, and the fact that Gracie didn't adjust proves to be he didn't belong in the same ring with Matt Hughes. Gracie is a great fighter, and grappling instructor, and one of the good people in this sport, but he was out of his league. He needs to go back and fight some more has-beens before stepping into the ring with Matt Hughes.

Overall I was bored throughout this whole fight card except for the last round in the Hughes fight, I believe it was the first time he TKOed a fighter on his feet, so congrats to Matt for that.

Great card on paper, just a horribly boring in reality. I blame Silva and Penn. Penn was a disappointment for sure, he was a better fighter than he showed tonight, and he certainly shouldn't think of moving up to 170 if he can't beat a 145 pounder. Again Silva is going to have to a whole lot to make up for his performance, totally unacceptable. He should be saddened with himself.

Silva=Disgrace. I was hoping that Wand Silva would get in Anderson's face after the match and that they would have a bad ass stare down, but that didn't happen.

atomdanger
04-11-2010, 08:33 AM
I wanted to really think about everything before I posted my review.
But here it is.

Grove / Munoz.
Grove looked good, and even had Munoz in some trouble,
entertaining fight, Munoz just looked stronger, and maybe wanted it more.

Etim / Dos Anjos.
My only comment on this was the odd stoppage / stand up by Goddard.
First, he warns Dos Anjos not to "elbow the spine" after Dos Anjos knees Etim
in the ribs, then stands them up and takes a point.
Bio 101, I cannot knee your spine when you're on your back.
Goddard is from England, and so is Etim, thats what happened there.

Hughes / Gracie.
I thought Renzo looked great for the amount of time he has taken off,
but he just didn't have an answer for those leg kicks,
and IMO they made the difference in the fight, why he wasn't checking them.
Who knows. Great win for Hughes.

Edgar / Penn.
I thought Penn won 3 rounds pretty clearly,
either way I was NOT impressed with either fighter.

Anderson / Maia.
*yawn*
Anderson lost a lot of respect from me.
1. If you're going to dance and "taunt" somebody, You better bring it.
After all the noise in rounds 1 and 2 Anderson ran for a good 12 - 13 minutes.
Really AS? Come on.

2. Why wasn't a point taken for the bad mouthing going on?

3. Maia is a badass, he was outmatched, and couldn't get it down,
but had the decency to put it on the line and TRY.
Whatever judged gave AS all 5 rounds are INSANE.

atomdanger
04-11-2010, 08:35 AM
I also wanted to mention that several people who speak Portuguese said
that AS did NOT say what Ed Soares said after the fight.
But something more along the lines of "Maia wouldn't engage and oh well"
and wasn't very apologetic.

J.B.
04-11-2010, 08:39 AM
"Maia wouldn't engage and oh well"
and wasn't very apologetic.

If that's what he said...cool.

I wouldn't be apologetic for last night at all.

atomdanger
04-11-2010, 08:52 AM
If that's what he said...cool.

I wouldn't be apologetic for last night at all.

I would be.

I would never taunt somebody that I wasn't about to run through.
Why taunt for 2 rounds to run for 2 rounds?
*shrug*

seems a little silly.

logrus
04-11-2010, 08:59 AM
I would be.

I would never taunt somebody that I wasn't about to run through.
Why taunt for 2 rounds to run for 2 rounds?
*shrug*

seems a little silly.

lol, a little silly?

atomdanger
04-11-2010, 10:03 AM
lol, a little silly?

I try not to be so harsh with my comments these days,
and a little more mature about them.

But if you want the blunt answer,
it was a complete **** move to dance around and act like you're untouchable,
then do NOTHING but run, it was a joke. AS mocks the sport, its pathetic IMO.

County Mike
04-11-2010, 12:44 PM
I actually thought the apology made it worse, so I hope that is what he really said.

If you're going to be the heel, be the heel. Don't be a jerk, then apologize immediately afterwards.

Really, he should have said something like "I can do whatever I want in there. He couldn't touch me so I made a joke out of him.". At least then he would have stayed in character.

F34R
04-11-2010, 02:09 PM
I ws yelling at Penn the entire time to get in there and finish that fight. I already knew going into the last round he lost that fight if he didn't finish it. I was disappointed at his performace.

The Hughes fight I thought could be more exciting for the first 12 mins or so. I respect the game plan, but thought Hughes could have attacked when he was landing some shots, then just backed off. Seemed odd. Loved the finish though. Congrats for that.

Anderson Silva... lord. I was calling for him to be cut from the UFC. That was a completely disrespectful performance. I will NEVER buy a ppv with him on it, EVER. I bought this one mainly because Matt and BJ were on it, but regardless of who's on it next time, sorry.

All that showing off, converstations in the ring, RUNNING around... pathetic. That's the worst performance inside the ring I've ever seen. Worse than Kalib, easily.

rearnakedchoke
04-11-2010, 02:09 PM
3. Maia is a badass, he was outmatched, and couldn't get it down,
but had the decency to put it on the line and TRY.
Whatever judged gave AS all 5 rounds are INSANE.

probably the same guy that gave edgar all five rounds ... crazy if you ask me ....

rearnakedchoke
04-11-2010, 02:29 PM
I didn't think Edgar did enough to win the fight, I also don't think Penn did enough to win the fight either. I will be really suprised to see that Frankie landed more punches and strikes than Penn. I thought Edgar had a good game plan, but I don't think he ever put Penn in any danger whatsoever.



http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.html

here is the fightmetric stats for the fight

Bonnie
04-11-2010, 03:28 PM
I also wanted to mention that several people who speak Portuguese said
that AS did NOT say what Ed Soares said after the fight.
But something more along the lines of "Maia wouldn't engage and oh well"
and wasn't very apologetic.

I don't speak Portuguese, but I read his lips....that's what I got too.

I actually thought the apology made it worse, so I hope that is what he really said.

If you're going to be the heel, be the heel. Don't be a jerk, then apologize immediately afterwards.

Really, he should have said something like "I can do whatever I want in there. He couldn't touch me so I made a joke out of him.". At least then he would have stayed in character.

I thought the same thing, Mike. Own it!

I'd really like to know what he was saying to Maia when he latched onto his hands after the fight.

SteveT
04-11-2010, 05:03 PM
I can see AS going back to the Spike PPV that are free....at least the fans don't have to pay to watch him act the way he did....

Chuck
04-11-2010, 05:13 PM
I can see AS going back to the Spike PPV that are free....at least the fans don't have to pay to watch him act the way he did....

Dana can't let him do that either... too much exposure for his stupid antics!!

atomdanger
04-11-2010, 06:46 PM
Honest question.

Maia said that Anderson was screaming curse words and yelling,
why wasn't a point taken?

Rich Franklin in interviews has said you can get points taken for that.
Can you?
If so, Why not?

logrus
04-11-2010, 06:55 PM
Honest question.

Maia said that Anderson was screaming curse words and yelling,
why wasn't a point taken?

Rich Franklin in interviews has said you can get points taken for that.
Can you?
If so, Why not?

Cause the ref could understand Silva probably lol.

Max
04-11-2010, 07:07 PM
http://www.fightmetric.com/fights/Edgar-Penn.html

here is the fightmetric stats for the fight

I was just getting ready to post this but I saw it was already up. I still have not watched the fight, I'm not a big fan of sitting through a fight when I know the person I want to win has lost, and because of how the Silva fight went I was not in the mood to watch that. I will get around to watching them some day though. From everything I have read all the rounds were really close. As for why BJ decided to stay in Hilo, I read on another site that due to some weather his house was in some danger. Not sure if they were just playing around but if not it may explain why he chose to stay in Hilo for training. In the end it may have been a combination of not having a good training camp and BJ just having an off night. Everyone has those now and then, we saw GSP have one vs Serra, I just hope that BJ responds like GSP did. I really think this may be good for BJ, he was talking a lot about moving up and now he gets to focus himself where he is best and just work on getting the belt back.

StizzoFoShizzo
04-11-2010, 07:15 PM
I was just getting ready to post this but I saw it was already up. I still have not watched the fight, I'm not a big fan of sitting through a fight when I know the person I want to win has lost, and because of how the Silva fight went I was not in the mood to watch that. I will get around to watching them some day though. From everything I have read all the rounds were really close. As for why BJ decided to stay in Hilo, I read on another site that due to some weather his house was in some danger. Not sure if they were just playing around but if not it may explain why he chose to stay in Hilo for training. In the end it may have been a combination of not having a good training camp and BJ just having an off night. Everyone has those now and then, we saw GSP have one vs Serra, I just hope that BJ responds like GSP did. I really think this may be good for BJ, he was talking a lot about moving up and now he gets to focus himself where he is best and just work on getting the belt back.

have you heard anything about BJ and Marv having a falling out? I've been hearing rumors that BJ wasn't taking his training seriously by showing up late, not showing up at all, and not taking it seriously when he was there. So Marv stopped working with him prior to this fight. I'm not putting much stock into this rumor, but it would explain why BJ was in Hilo and why BJ seemed to gas in the fight.

Max
04-11-2010, 07:28 PM
have you heard anything about BJ and Marv having a falling out? I've been hearing rumors that BJ wasn't taking his training seriously by showing up late, not showing up at all, and not taking it seriously when he was there. So Marv stopped working with him prior to this fight. I'm not putting much stock into this rumor, but it would explain why BJ was in Hilo and why BJ seemed to gas in the fight.

ive not heard anything. BJ talked about Marv being one of the best things to happen to him so i dont think they had a falling out. I will post what I saw on the other web site.

"I personally thought BJ looked different from the beginning. In prior fights BJ is right at the side during introductions with his fists ready and he's moving back and forth just staring at his opponent, but this time his hands were down and he didn't bring them up until he went face to face with Edgar.It's something very small but I thought it showed something different."

"or was too busy with his home almost being swept away that he decided to stay at home and train."

"i didn't see the weigh-in photos for this one, so bj in the ring was the first time i saw him before this fight. i don't know if i was the only one who noticed and i don't know for sure that this is accurate, but i thought to myself "he looks flabbier than he did the past few fights when his cardio was up."


So im not sure if the house thing was real or just a joke but he did stay in hilo this time which is strange considering his last 3 fights i think he went to Cali for part of his camp.

Tyburn
04-11-2010, 09:12 PM
Honest question.

Maia said that Anderson was screaming curse words and yelling,
why wasn't a point taken?

Rich Franklin in interviews has said you can get points taken for that.
Can you?
If so, Why not?

How does Maia know what Anderson was yelling at him? Anderson doesnt speak English...Does Demian speak Portuguese or Spanish?

and even if he did....Can the Ref? to know what Anderson Silva was actually saying??

Tyburn
04-11-2010, 09:15 PM
I was just getting ready to post this but I saw it was already up. I still have not watched the fight, I'm not a big fan of sitting through a fight when I know the person I want to win has lost, and because of how the Silva fight went I was not in the mood to watch that. I will get around to watching them some day though. .... In the end it may have been a combination of not having a good training camp and BJ just having an off night. Everyone has those now and then, we saw GSP have one vs Serra, I just hope that BJ responds like GSP did.

I'm sorry Max :unsure-1: I'm sure he'll bounce back :)

Liddellfan
04-11-2010, 09:21 PM
Honest question.

Maia said that Anderson was screaming curse words and yelling,
why wasn't a point taken?

Rich Franklin in interviews has said you can get points taken for that.
Can you?
If so, Why not?

The ONLY time I heard a ref tell a fighter about talking was when Mazagatti told Diaz to stop talking during the Lawler fight. I watched just a few clips of the Silva fight and have to say there was NO reason for the unprofessional conduct he displayed during that fight.

logrus
04-11-2010, 10:56 PM
How does Maia know what Anderson was yelling at him? Anderson doesnt speak English...Does Demian speak Portuguese or Spanish?

and even if he did....Can the Ref? to know what Anderson Silva was actually saying??

Maia is Brazilian too lol. An thats prob why the ref didn't say anything...

Tyburn
04-11-2010, 11:57 PM
Maia is Brazilian too lol. An thats prob why the ref didn't say anything...

:blink: oh...I didnt know that :ashamed:

:unsure-1:

atomdanger
04-12-2010, 12:05 AM
How does Maia know what Anderson was yelling at him? Anderson doesnt speak English...Does Demian speak Portuguese or Spanish?

and even if he did....Can the Ref? to know what Anderson Silva was actually saying??

They're both from Brazil.
They both speak Portuguese.

StizzoFoShizzo
04-12-2010, 12:09 AM
ive not heard anything. BJ talked about Marv being one of the best things to happen to him so i dont think they had a falling out. I will post what I saw on the other web site.

"I personally thought BJ looked different from the beginning. In prior fights BJ is right at the side during introductions with his fists ready and he's moving back and forth just staring at his opponent, but this time his hands were down and he didn't bring them up until he went face to face with Edgar.It's something very small but I thought it showed something different."

"or was too busy with his home almost being swept away that he decided to stay at home and train."

"i didn't see the weigh-in photos for this one, so bj in the ring was the first time i saw him before this fight. i don't know if i was the only one who noticed and i don't know for sure that this is accurate, but i thought to myself "he looks flabbier than he did the past few fights when his cardio was up."


So im not sure if the house thing was real or just a joke but he did stay in hilo this time which is strange considering his last 3 fights i think he went to Cali for part of his camp.

Ok thanks! I kinda thought it was BS too, since I also heard BJ and Dana talking about how big Marv has been to BJs career just before 112. I don't know where my buddy heard that. BJ didn't look ready to "Just Scrap" like he has in the last few fights and ihe almost looked like "pre Marv" BJ, so I was trying to look into that.

Tyburn
04-12-2010, 12:12 AM
They're both from Brazil.
They both speak Portuguese.

Yes...I have already been corrected on that one...thank you :unsure-1:

logrus
04-12-2010, 12:14 AM
Yes...I have already been corrected on that one...thank you :unsure-1:

An I am the one to do it. You are never going to live this one down... :laugh:

Tyburn
04-12-2010, 12:28 AM
An I am the one to do it. You are never going to live this one down... :laugh:

Noone is perfect :sad:

it could have been worse though...it might have been Max who corrected me :laugh:

logrus
04-12-2010, 12:31 AM
Noone is perfect :sad:

it could have been worse though...it might have been Max who corrected me :laugh:

I rather have Max do it then myself lol.

F34R
04-12-2010, 12:32 AM
so, with the fight metric numbers, should Penn have won?

Tyburn
04-12-2010, 12:36 AM
I rather have Max do it then myself lol.

:ninja: Max is a stronger adversary then you...ergo...it would have been more of an embarrisment to be corrected by him :mellow:

The ultimate Horror would have been for Andreas to have materialized and corrected me...that really would have been...horrible :scared0011:

logrus
04-12-2010, 12:40 AM
so, with the fight metric numbers, should Penn have won?

To be honest Last nite I had Penn winning rounds 1 2 3, and Edgar winning 4 and 5. Which seems to be what the FM says they had the most damage. Edgar only scored 1 takedown out of like 15 lol.

Crosby50-45, Sadia (sp?)48-47, Roberts 49-46 by Unanimous decision.

bj44
04-12-2010, 12:58 AM
Yes...I have already been corrected on that one...thank you :unsure-1:

lol did you think he was American... Have you ever heard him talk???

Max
04-12-2010, 01:25 AM
so, with the fight metric numbers, should Penn have won?

fightmetric is just another judge so its not like what they say is some golden rule for who should have won. it does sometimes help to have the punch numbers though.

Tyburn
04-12-2010, 01:40 AM
lol did you think he was American... Have you ever heard him talk???

I've heard him speak...I know he has a heavy accent...but I didnt know where the accent came from... :unsure-1: I was pretty sure he wasnt French, French Canadian, or Irish...other then that...I didnt know :laugh:

bj44
04-12-2010, 06:48 AM
I've heard him speak...I know he has a heavy accent...but I didnt know where the accent came from... :unsure-1: I was pretty sure he wasnt French, French Canadian, or Irish...other then that...I didnt know :laugh:

whenever somone has an accent in mma just assume its brazilian lol... Although i guess Damien kinda looks like a spaniard... He doesnt seem to have any native ancestry like many Brazilians do.. He looks straight european.

StizzoFoShizzo
04-12-2010, 07:47 AM
fightmetric is just another judge so its not like what they say is some golden rule for who should have won. it does sometimes help to have the punch numbers though.

What's the one called that Strikeforce uses in their broadcasts?

Spiritwalker
04-12-2010, 10:15 AM
What's the one called that Strikeforce uses in their broadcasts?


Jimmy w/his fingers and toes?


Actually I think it's Compustrike..

StizzoFoShizzo
04-12-2010, 03:25 PM
Jimmy w/his fingers and toes?


Actually I think it's Compustrike..

Yes that's it. Does anyone have the compustrike scores for Penn/Edgar? I heard they are different, and that they scored the fight for Edgar. I would love to see a comparison of the two.

Spiritwalker
04-12-2010, 03:42 PM
I don't seem much use for them.. but they can be kind of entertaining.

http://www.compustrike.com/stats.php?news=CompuStrike_Stats%3A_UFC_112&news_id=123&start=0&category_id=5&parent_id=5&arcyear=Y&arcmonth=M

Miss Foxy
04-12-2010, 03:45 PM
I was not impressed at all.. :sad:

StizzoFoShizzo
04-12-2010, 04:35 PM
I don't seem much use for them.. but they can be kind of entertaining.

http://www.compustrike.com/stats.php?news=CompuStrike_Stats%3A_UFC_112&news_id=123&start=0&category_id=5&parent_id=5&arcyear=Y&arcmonth=M

How does one give more strikes to BJ and the other to Edgar? You're right, there isn't much use for them, but I do prefer the Compustrike method over FightMetric. It just wierd how different they are when it comes to this fight.

Tyburn
04-12-2010, 09:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls01vMYpPfE

well here is my recap video :laugh:

F34R
04-13-2010, 12:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls01vMYpPfE

well here is my recap video :laugh:

That was more exciting than the main event lol

Tyburn
04-13-2010, 11:25 AM
That was more exciting than the main event lol

thats not saying much :mellow:

:laugh::laugh:

Spiritwalker
04-13-2010, 11:37 AM
How does one give more strikes to BJ and the other to Edgar? You're right, there isn't much use for them, but I do prefer the Compustrike method over FightMetric. It just wierd how different they are when it comes to this fight.


I thought it was funny that Compustrike doesn't credit Matt for 2 knockdowns..

ufcfan2
04-13-2010, 11:42 AM
They ever announce who got Fight of the Night,KO,Sub of the night?

Buc Nasty
04-13-2010, 01:29 PM
They ever announce who got Fight of the Night,KO,Sub of the night?

Dana revelaed at the post fight press conference. I can't remember who they were though, think they were all on the undercard.....apart from Munoz/Grove for FOTN.

rearnakedchoke
04-13-2010, 01:54 PM
They ever announce who got Fight of the Night,KO,Sub of the night?

KO was Demarques Johnson, Sub was Dos Anjos .. but shouldv'e been Mr. Wonderful ... and as BN pointed out FOTN was Munoz/Da Spida ..

KevinD
04-13-2010, 02:04 PM
I was looking at the compustrike numbers. They have Renzo landing 30 power strikes. Did I miss something, where did he land anything other than jabs and a few kicks. Those numbers are very misleading and distorted in my opinion.
I think the Penn Edgar numbers are off too.

Neezar
04-13-2010, 02:26 PM
I was looking at the compustrike numbers. They have Renzo landing 30 power strikes. Did I miss something, where did he land anything other than jabs and a few kicks. Those numbers are very misleading and distorted in my opinion.
I think the Penn Edgar numbers are off too.

I am not surprised. I have been trying to tell Max that for a long time now.