PDA

View Full Version : Bullying "causes" suicide?


Vizion
05-10-2012, 01:42 AM
Seems odd to me that "all of a sudden" the issue of bullying has been making front page news. Blaming bullies for teen suicide to me seems asinine. Certainly when someone is bullied it can do nothing short of exacerbate any and all existing problems they may have, but does it "drive" them to freaking murder themselves?? :huh:

I sense there is a darker agenda at play here. Satan may be clever, but his tricks are predictable at the same time.

What do you all think?

NateR
05-10-2012, 02:36 AM
I'm getting a little concerned with how high school bullying is suddenly being linked to the Gay Rights movement, as if it's only "gay" teenagers who get bullied. I'm worried that a lot of regular kids who are bullied simply because they are quiet or just don't fit in are going to have teachers and counselors trying to convince them that they are gay and will only find "happiness" if they pursue a gay lifestyle.

I see the potential for a lot of confusion and permanent mental or physical damage done to children because of this.

I understand that groups like the It Gets Better Project (http://www.itgetsbetter.org/) are trying to prevent kids from getting bullied, falling into depression and/or committing suicide; but I think, in the long run, they are going to end up making the problem exponentially worse than if they had just stayed out of it.

County Mike
05-10-2012, 12:11 PM
This is a tough call. For the most part, I think the kids need to suck it up and toughen up. However, I'm sure there are some extreme cases and a lot of kids aren't equipped to deal with it. Just read about a girl who killed herself because of bullying. The "mean kids" started sending out mass texts calling her a slut and other things. She couldn't take it anymore and hung herself.

I think general bullying actually teaches kids how to cope with things but in extreme cases, when the kid is asking for help, something should be done.

Bella79
05-10-2012, 04:12 PM
I have a 14yr old and I hear stories from her about how classmates treat others and it disgusts me. Thank goodness my daughter is mentally rough and also a kickboxer or else she would probably be getting crap. I know one boy was being bullied for carrying his bible :sad: Another girl was bullied for supposedly being "fast" or some nonsense like that.
I do believe some stories are blown out of the water.. I remember in school things like this happened, but as we evolve so do the heinous behaviors..
I used to get jumped in high school for "thinking I'm all that!" That's how I think I ended up so feisty and just fought back. Nothing to be proud of and I grew up in the suburbs not the city. Being 1/2 of each race was also a big deal. The little mexican girls hated me lol.

rearnakedchoke
05-10-2012, 04:20 PM
most of the bullying that goes on is more like harmless ribbing, however there are more extreme cases where the kids are relentless and the kid being bullied is scared even to talk out .. it is easy for those of us who weren't bullied, to say these kids need to suck it up, but we don't know what these kids go through .. and yes, bullying nowadays is way worse, texts, web bullying, messages travel fast ...

oh and nate .. don't know about it being a tool for the gay rights movements .. but who knows .. imo, being gay isn't a sin like you think ... i just think it is who people are ... but that is just my opinion ... lol

PRShrek
05-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Harmless ribbing is very different from bullying. The solution to bullying is to teach kids to stand up for themselves and for each other, which is the opposite of the ‘no tolerance’ policy that most schools enforce.

Sin is not a matter of what you think or what Nate thinks, it’s about what God thinks.

Max
05-10-2012, 09:43 PM
I have a 14yr old

Wait what? I knew you had a daughter but I didnt know she was 14. I always thought you were in your early 20's for some reason.

Bella79
05-10-2012, 10:06 PM
Wait what? I knew you had a daughter but I didnt know she was 14. I always thought you were in your early 20's for some reason.

I wish.. Yes, I am a mother of a 14yr old.LOL..Surprise! :wink: She's entering high school. I have her in my pics album. My twin.

Max
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
I wish.. Yes, I am a mother of a 14yr old.LOL..Surprise! :wink: She's entering high school. I have her in my pics album. My twin.

Just giving you a heads up, once your daughter gets to highschool, dont be surprised if one of her guy friends asks you to prom haha

Bella79
05-10-2012, 10:54 PM
Just giving you a heads up, once your daughter gets to highschool, dont be surprised if one of her guy friends asks you to prom haha

:laugh:

VCURamFan
05-11-2012, 01:08 AM
Just giving you a heads up, once your daughter gets to highschool, dont be surprised if one of her guy friends asks you to prom haha

:happy0198:

Vizion
05-11-2012, 03:44 AM
I'm getting a little concerned with how high school bullying is suddenly being linked to the Gay Rights movement, as if it's only "gay" teenagers who get bullied. I'm worried that a lot of regular kids who are bullied simply because they are quiet or just don't fit in are going to have teachers and counselors trying to convince them that they are gay and will only find "happiness" if they pursue a gay lifestyle.

I see the potential for a lot of confusion and permanent mental or physical damage done to children because of this.

I understand that groups like the It Gets Better Project (http://www.itgetsbetter.org/) are trying to prevent kids from getting bullied, falling into depression and/or committing suicide; but I think, in the long run, they are going to end up making the problem exponentially worse than if they had just stayed out of it. Nate, you have a way with words my friend. Could not have said it better myself. It seems the media is using "bullying" to prepare for anti-bullying legislation that will ultimately mean anti-homosexual legislation.

This, in effect will scare people from speaking out against the lifestyle.

Vizion
05-11-2012, 03:46 AM
oh and nate .. don't know about it being a tool for the gay rights movements .. but who knows .. imo, being gay isn't a sin like you think ... i just think it is who people are ... but that is just my opinion ... lol
Translation: "I have a death wish, and either Nate and/or Vizion are going to answer it" :laugh:

Vizion
05-11-2012, 03:49 AM
I think general bullying actually teaches kids how to cope with things but in extreme cases, when the kid is asking for help, something should be done. The definition is being blurred. Today, if you make fun of someone because you disagree with their point, you are a bully. It's all part of a larger agenda. A dark agenda designed to manipulate us into silence.

rockdawg21
05-11-2012, 01:28 PM
"Bullying causes suicide" makes as much sense as this old guy protesting guns (check out the other guy's response):

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/562195_383480491694354_152495424792863_1036673_347 682178_n.jpg

VCURamFan
05-11-2012, 02:05 PM
"Bullying causes suicide" makes as much sense as this old guy protesting guns (check out the other guy's response):

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/562195_383480491694354_152495424792863_1036673_347 682178_n.jpg
Haha, I saw this on Facebook the other day! :laugh:

Max
05-11-2012, 02:27 PM
The definition is being blurred. Today, if you make fun of someone because you disagree with their point, you are a bully. It's all part of a larger agenda. A dark agenda designed to manipulate us into silence.

If you make fun of someone just because you disagree with their point you are not a bully, youre just an @$$. I dont think there is any dark agenda behind trying to get people to stop making fun of someone because they dont agree with them. If anything people need to learn to discuss their opinions instead of making fun of anyone who does not agree with them.

rockdawg21
05-11-2012, 02:36 PM
If you make fun of someone just because you disagree with their point you are not a bully, youre just an @$$. I dont think there is any dark agenda behind trying to get people to stop making fun of someone because they dont agree with them. If anything people need to learn to discuss their opinions instead of making fun of anyone who does not agree with them.
Jeeze, your opinion is really stupid Max! :tongue0011: :laugh:

rearnakedchoke
05-11-2012, 05:33 PM
Translation: "I have a death wish, and either Nate and/or Vizion are going to answer it" :laugh:

:laugh:
i don't know what you mean, but :laugh: anyways!!!!

Vizion
05-11-2012, 09:18 PM
If you make fun of someone just because you disagree with their point you are not a bully, youre just an @$$. I dont think there is any dark agenda behind trying to get people to stop making fun of someone because they dont agree with them. If anything people need to learn to discuss their opinions instead of making fun of anyone who does not agree with them.That is correct, but what is happening today is when you disagree with homosexuality and you voice it you are considered bigoted and your words are labeled as "hate speech". That being said, the evil agenda begins with the youth. Start indoctrinating the youth into believing that speaking out against the homosexual lifestyle is analogous to speaking out against someone because they're black.

At least that is what the gay agenda is trying to do. People should discuss their differences, but what has happened is if you don't "respect" their differences your opinion is censored. Why censor it? Because it is harmful. Why is it harmful? Because there is truth in it. Why do we know there is truth in it? Because we know that the root of the problem is spiritual. How do we know that? It is in the Bible and it is God's Word that cuts like a double edged sword.

edit to add: and it all starts with the label of "bully". Hitler was correct to say that if you tell a lie long enough, and loud enough eventually in time the masses will begin to believe it. The suicide kids are being used as primer for hate speech legislation against "antoi-homosexual" speech. Mark my words, in this God-less, selfish country it will happen.