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VCURamFan
11-07-2011, 09:33 PM
No word yet on a sentence. From FoxNews.com:

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A jury has found Michael Jackson's doctor guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the 2009 death of the King of Pop.

The verdict came Monday in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/conrad-murray-michael-jackson.htm#r_src=ramp).

During the six-week trial, prosecutors depicted Dr. Conrad Murray as a reckless physician who abandoned Jackson while he was under the effects of the powerful anesthetic propofol on June 25, 2009.

Attorneys for the Houston-based cardiologist countered that Jackson was addicted to the drug and self-administered the fatal dose when Murray left his bedroom.

Murray agreed to become Jackson's personal physician as the singer prepared for a series of comeback concerts in 2009.

Murray did not testify during the trial but previously acknowledged to police that he gave Jackson propofol and other sedatives on the morning the singer died.

The seven men and five women who hold the fate of Murray in their hands are a diverse cross-section of Los Angeles, people of varying ethnicities from different towns who might never have met if they had not been thrown together in the jury pool.

They are white, black and Hispanic, mostly middle-aged and live in an assortment of suburbs in the Los Angeles urban sprawl. Most have children and some have grandchildren.

They include a professor, postman, bus driver, actor and movie animation supervisor.

The panel was in its second day of deliberations when it reached the verdict.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to one count of involuntary manslaughter after prosecutors accused him of administering a fatal dose of propofol to the King of Pop.

The jurors, who were engaged by all the details of the case, were likely methodical in their deliberations.

Nine of them have prior jury experience and one woman, a native of Spain, has served on five juries, all of which reached verdicts. She was once a jury forewoman.

A woman who has worked as a paralegal for 30 years is serving on her first jury and appeared enthralled.

They knew about the involuntary manslaughter charge against Murray before they came to court and most of them know Jackson's music. A few said they were fans and one, the video animation specialist, said he had some interaction with Jackson when the singer was making the video, "Captain EO."

Details about their lives were culled from lengthy written questionnaires obtained by The Associated Press. Their identities have been kept secret and even lawyers in the case know them only by their jury numbers.

In six weeks together the jurors have displayed uncommon attentiveness to the task at hand. Several, including alternates, have taken notes and kept lists of evidence. Once, when the judge was at a loss to find the number of an exhibit, a member of the jury spoke up and told him.

There were no drooping eyelids or distracted glances. When a scientific expert was conducting experiments on the floor of the courtroom, panelists stood up in the jury box to get a better view.

Their attention to evidence and witnesses has impressed Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor, who commended them for their commitment, punctuality in getting to court and willingness to give up their personal lives to serve.

When the trial went longer than Pastor had predicted, he apologized, but the jurors seemed unperturbed.

Every night, when he gave them an admonition to avoid the news, the Internet and other sources of information about the trial, they listened as if it was the first time they had heard it and they nodded in agreement.

Many of the panelists have a familiarity with prescription drugs; most of them said they trust their doctors and several believe that celebrities receive a different kind of justice than average people.

Some have learned about the justice system from TV, watching such shows as "Law and Order" and "CSI." Others watched broadcasts of real-life, high-profile trials including the Casey Anthony case and the O.J. Simpson trial.

One woman, an accounting manager, remembered that during the Simpson trial, "a TV was brought to the office for everyone to follow it." A man in his 30s said he followed that trial in school as an educational experience.

While not sequestered, the jurors have had a rare opportunity to bond because they were kept together for lunch and transported together between a secret parking lot and the courthouse. In order to avoid exposure to events outside the courtroom, the judge had lunch catered for them every day.

rockdawg21
11-07-2011, 10:37 PM
Yay, now we can get back to normal news.

Neezar
11-08-2011, 12:04 PM
I am shocked by the details of the jurors. Any decent defense lawyer should have dismissed many of those on the 1st round. :unsure-1: One had actually worked with Micheal Jackson. Jeez. Some sound like career jurors. I'm not sure that would be a good thing.

Bonnie
11-08-2011, 02:51 PM
I am shocked by the details of the jurors. Any decent defense lawyer should have dismissed many of those on the 1st round. :unsure-1: One had actually worked with Micheal Jackson. Jeez. Some sound like career jurors. I'm not sure that would be a good thing.

That seems crazy to include someone who had actually worked with him! :wacko: I wonder what his sentence will be. They were saying the other day, because of overcrowding in California prisons, he could get as little as months or even house arrest. Who knows maybe he'll get "Lindsay Lohan" time. :rolleyes: I don't know why they even bother bringing her in to court...what a farce and waste of taxpayers' money.

adamt
11-08-2011, 02:55 PM
I am shocked by the details of the jurors. Any decent defense lawyer should have dismissed many of those on the 1st round. :unsure-1: One had actually worked with Micheal Jackson. Jeez. Some sound like career jurors. I'm not sure that would be a good thing.

ditto

i didn't know the movie runaway jury was so accurate, apparently that's real

Bonnie
11-08-2011, 03:10 PM
Yay, now we can get back to normal news.

Well, at least until they find the next news story they can recycle 24/7 for months and months and months. :rolleyes:

rockdawg21
11-09-2011, 06:35 AM
So, does this mean an alcoholic can now sue liquor stores for making them into an alcoholic?

Michael Jackson was addicted and just like a liquor store gives an alcoholic what they want, Dr. Murray gave MJ what he wanted.

MattHughesRocks
11-09-2011, 06:38 AM
It's legal to sell alcohol.

So, does this mean an alcoholic can now sue liquor stores for making them into an alcoholic?

Michael Jackson was addicted and just like a liquor store gives an alcoholic what they want, Dr. Murray gave MJ what he wanted.

rockdawg21
11-09-2011, 06:41 AM
It's legal to sell alcohol.
So, was it not legal for Dr. Murray to prescribe meds?

Neezar
11-09-2011, 01:48 PM
So, was it not legal for Dr. Murray to prescribe meds?



Do you think he died from prescription meds? :unsure-1:


He didn't. He died from a medication that was administered to MJ through an IV. A medicine that is used to knock people out while you do a short procedure (because it doesn't last long). Or it is used to keep people in a drug induced coma on a continous drip. A drip which is carefully monitored and titrated accordingly as needed. Someone had to keep giving it or it was left on. Basically, the MD was allowing the medicine to drip and LEFT it.

That medicine should NEVER be given outside a hospital setting. It is most certainly NOT a prescription medication.

MattHughesRocks
11-09-2011, 03:06 PM
Yes, when you prescribe to death :laugh:
He administered it. He didn't just hand over a bottle of pills and leave.

So, was it not legal for Dr. Murray to prescribe meds?

MattHughesRocks
11-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Or, what she said :rolleyes:Do you think he died from prescription meds? :unsure-1:


He didn't. He died from a medication that was administered to MJ through an IV. A medicine that is used to knock people out while you do a short procedure (because it doesn't last long). Or it is used to keep people in a drug induced coma on a continous drip. A drip which is carefully monitored and titrated accordingly as needed. Someone had to keep giving it or it was left on. Basically, the MD was allowing the medicine to drip and LEFT it.

That medicine should NEVER be given outside a hospital setting. It is most certainly NOT a prescription medication.

3dlee
11-09-2011, 03:14 PM
if you have a friend thats a druggy and you give him the shot of heroin that kills him, you will go to prison. and as a dr, he should have told MJ that he couldnt have that stuff. a liquor store owner does not take an oath to protect life. nor does he pour the drink down the alcoholics throat. Dr Murray, the prosecution argued, did inject Michael with, essentialy, death.

rockdawg21
11-11-2011, 04:03 AM
Do you think he died from prescription meds? :unsure-1:


He didn't. He died from a medication that was administered to MJ through an IV. A medicine that is used to knock people out while you do a short procedure (because it doesn't last long). Or it is used to keep people in a drug induced coma on a continous drip. A drip which is carefully monitored and titrated accordingly as needed. Someone had to keep giving it or it was left on. Basically, the MD was allowing the medicine to drip and LEFT it.

That medicine should NEVER be given outside a hospital setting. It is most certainly NOT a prescription medication.
Oh

MattHughesRocks
11-11-2011, 06:51 AM
:laugh:
Oh

J.B.
11-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Do you think he died from prescription meds? :unsure-1:


He didn't. He died from a medication that was administered to MJ through an IV. A medicine that is used to knock people out while you do a short procedure (because it doesn't last long). Or it is used to keep people in a drug induced coma on a continous drip. A drip which is carefully monitored and titrated accordingly as needed. Someone had to keep giving it or it was left on. Basically, the MD was allowing the medicine to drip and LEFT it.

That medicine should NEVER be given outside a hospital setting. It is most certainly NOT a prescription medication.

That means MJ was hardcore!

Honestly, I'm probably the biggest MJ fan around here, but I have no qualms in somebody saying the dude was messed up. Conrad Murray may have had a responsibility to monitor Michael, but MJ knew he was killing himself. The sad part is he probably didn't care. Normal people don't need those drugs just to get some sleep.

rearnakedchoke
11-11-2011, 01:58 PM
Do you think he died from prescription meds? :unsure-1:


He didn't. He died from a medication that was administered to MJ through an IV. A medicine that is used to knock people out while you do a short procedure (because it doesn't last long). Or it is used to keep people in a drug induced coma on a continous drip. A drip which is carefully monitored and titrated accordingly as needed. Someone had to keep giving it or it was left on. Basically, the MD was allowing the medicine to drip and LEFT it.

That medicine should NEVER be given outside a hospital setting. It is most certainly NOT a prescription medication.

not to mention that he got the drugs through illegal and improper channels ... i wonder if that is the same stuff they used on Inception