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KENTUCKYREDBONE
10-27-2011, 06:36 PM
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WVVA TV Bluefield Beckley WV News, Weather and SportsSenate votes for unlimited potatoes in schoolsSenate votes for unlimited potatoes in schools
Posted: Oct 18, 2011 5:48 PM EDT
Updated: Oct 18, 2011 8:48 PM EDT
By MARY CLARE JALONICK
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate threw its support behind the potato Tuesday, voting to block an Obama administration proposal to limit the vegetable on school lunch lines.

Agriculture Department rules proposed earlier this year aimed to reduce the amount of french fries in schools, limiting lunchrooms to two servings a week of potatoes and other starchy vegetables. That angered the potato industry, some school districts and members of Congress from potato-growing states, who say USDA should focus on the preparation instead and that potatoes can be a good source of fiber and potassium.

Following a bipartisan agreement on the issue, the Senate by voice vote accepted an amendment by Republican Sen. Susan Collins that would block the USDA from putting any limits on serving potatoes or other vegetables in school lunches.

Collins, who is from Maine, a potato-growing state, says the vegetables are a cheaper and nutritious way to feed children when school budgets are strapped. She said after the vote that it was a "victory for common sense" and hoped the strong bipartisan vote would send a message to the USDA.

"This proposed rule would have imposed significant and needless costs on our nation's school districts at a time when they can least afford it," she said.

Amended was a spending bill that includes dollars for the Agriculture Department. The House passed a similar bill earlier this year including language that would ask the department to rewrite its school lunch rules entirely. Republicans have singled out the potato proposal in criticizing the rules, saying the government shouldn't be dictating what kids eat.

Advocates and government officials say children get enough potatoes already and should have more diversity in their diets

"USDA's proposal was about helping kids to eat a very wide variety of vegetables and I think that point has been lost in all this," said Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at the advocacy group Center for Science in the Public Interest, which pushed for the standards. "Other vegetables have a hard time competing with potatoes."

Since the proposed guidelines apply to federally subsidized meals, schools are generally fine with broad federal guidelines on nutrition - how many servings a week children are allowed of grains or vegetables, for example. But some schools have balked at the attempt to tell them exactly what foods they can't serve.

And many critics said the proposal ignores schools that have long since taken the "fry" out of french fry. Though they may be fried as part of initial processing, many schools are now preparing them with little grease and no crispiness, serving them to kids as a healthier option.

The way the amendment is worded - blocking the department from limiting potatoes - would still give USDA flexibility to regulate the preparation of the potatoes when it issues the final version of the school lunch rule.

""This amendment seeks to ensure flexibility for schools to provide nutritious and affordable school meals," said Democratic Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, another potato-growing state. Udall co-sponsored the amendment with Collins.

flo
10-28-2011, 01:19 AM
His administration wants to control what we eat, what we drive, our health care, light bulbs, cookware (no more naughty teflon!), how we use our property, etc., etc.

Buh bye Obama.

NateR
10-28-2011, 01:43 AM
The Nanny-State at it's finest.

TENNESSEAN
10-28-2011, 11:19 AM
but its for our own good. we should be thankful to have such a fine government looking out for us. we are obviously unable to look out for ourselves.

Dethbob
10-28-2011, 12:43 PM
When I first scanned this article I thought how silly it was for state senators to be squabbling about school lunch menus.

It took a while for it to sink in that these are Senators, like the real ones, as in the Federal Government worrying about what to put on a school lunch menu. Now I’m depressed.

I wonder how much of my children’s future earnings they are ‘investing’ in this important topic, and what Business of State has been tabled to make room for this discussion.

rearnakedchoke
10-28-2011, 12:52 PM
When I first scanned this article I thought how silly it was for state senators to be squabbling about school lunch menus.

It took a while for it to sink in that these are Senators, like the real ones, as in the Federal Government worrying about what to put on a school lunch menu. Now I’m depressed.

I wonder how much of my children’s future earnings they are ‘investing’ in this important topic, and what Business of State has been tabled to make room for this discussion.

i think it's great they are looking at issues with children .. they are the future of the country .. not saying i agree or disagree with the bill or the blocking of the bill (i do loves me some potatoes ...) but that the senate is actually spending time on issues that affect children is a good thing ...

Dethbob
10-28-2011, 01:21 PM
i think it's great they are looking at issues with children .. they are the future of the country .. not saying i agree or disagree with the bill or the blocking of the bill (i do loves me some potatoes ...) but that the senate is actually spending time on issues that affect children is a good thing ...

OK, but it seems to me that they should restrict themselves to IMPORTANT issues. The school principal is the very highest authority that should ever need to be involved in the planning of a school lunch menu. The lunch lady should be able to handle it, if there is any problem the parents can get involved and the principal (or equivalent) can provide a ruling on any intractable disputes.

If the Department of Know-it-All wants to provide some guide lines based on research, fine, but to have any level of government, let alone the highest legislative body in the land, directly involved in meal planning is just preposterous.

NateR
10-28-2011, 01:23 PM
i think it's great they are looking at issues with children .. they are the future of the country .. not saying i agree or disagree with the bill or the blocking of the bill (i do loves me some potatoes ...) but that the senate is actually spending time on issues that affect children is a good thing ...

No, it's not. The federal government has no business whatsoever deciding the lunch menus of public schools. That's something that should be handled solely by state and local governments. It's nothing but a waste of taxpayer dollars for the federal government to even be talking about this.

Just another example of how bloated and out of control our government has become.

rearnakedchoke
10-28-2011, 02:19 PM
OK, but it seems to me that they should restrict themselves to IMPORTANT issues. The school principal is the very highest authority that should ever need to be involved in the planning of a school lunch menu. The lunch lady should be able to handle it, if there is any problem the parents can get involved and the principal (or equivalent) can provide a ruling on any intractable disputes.

If the Department of Know-it-All wants to provide some guide lines based on research, fine, but to have any level of government, let alone the highest legislative body in the land, directly involved in meal planning is just preposterous.

the lunch lady will serve whatever she can get on sale and more than likely its crap .. i'd say do away with school cafeterias all together and teach the kids from young to pack and make a good, nutricious lunch .. that's what i do ..

rearnakedchoke
10-28-2011, 02:24 PM
No, it's not. The federal government has no business whatsoever deciding the lunch menus of public schools. That's something that should be handled solely by state and local governments. It's nothing but a waste of taxpayer dollars for the federal government to even be talking about this.

Just another example of how bloated and out of control our government has become.

fair enough .. i still don't have a grasp on how things are done in the US, but issues that make it to the federal gov't up here usually means it couldn't get solved at lower levels .. recently they stopped companies like coke and pepsi from putting vending machines in schools .. didn't say that kids couldn't bring the stuff in, but that they wouldn't have vending machines available to teens and younger .. i really didn't see anything wrong with it ..

Dethbob
10-28-2011, 04:06 PM
the lunch lady will serve whatever she can get on sale and more than likely its crap .. i'd say do away with school cafeterias all together and teach the kids from young to pack and make a good, nutricious lunch .. that's what i do ..

It's in loco parentis, the school is responsible to make sure the kids are properly fed while they are in the care of the school. If the cafeteria personnel can not handle it, it should be a matter for the HR department or the PTA, not Congress.

flo
10-28-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm reading a biography of John Adams and am at the spring of 1776, with members of the continental congress agonizing about how to achieve independence, whether they should even consider independence. The price to pay was treason and death by hanging. Adams himself typically spent 12 hours a day in service to his fledgling government.

I think our forefathers are turning in their graves at the actions of our current bunch of clowns in congress.

Dethbob
10-28-2011, 08:20 PM
I'm reading a biography of John Adams and am at the spring of 1776, with members of the continental congress agonizing about how to achieve independence, whether they should even consider independence. The price to pay was treason and death by hanging. Adams himself typically spent 12 hours a day in service to his fledgling government.

I think our forefathers are turning in their graves at the actions of our current bunch of clowns in congress.

Well said!

Bonnie
10-30-2011, 03:59 AM
I'm reading a biography of John Adams and am at the spring of 1776, with members of the continental congress agonizing about how to achieve independence, whether they should even consider independence. The price to pay was treason and death by hanging. Adams himself typically spent 12 hours a day in service to his fledgling government.

I think our forefathers are turning in their graves at the actions of our current bunch of clowns in congress.

I've often thought this myself about our forefathers...what they would think about how we've interpreted or rather mis-interpreted what they put down...how it's been twisted beyond what they probably intended or meant especially the "separation of church and state".

KENTUCKYREDBONE
12-09-2011, 05:54 PM
I've often thought this myself about our forefathers...what they would think about how we've interpreted or rather mis-interpreted what they put down...how it's been twisted beyond what they probably intended or meant especially the "separation of church and state".

Espessially considering the words seperation of Church and state are NOT even in our Constitiution! The far left likes to quote things that ain't even in thier. So yeah you have a real good point!

rockdawg21
12-10-2011, 01:30 AM
Woke up in the morning, put on my new plastic glove.
Served some re-heated salsbury steak, with a little slice of love.
Got no clue what the chicken pot pie is made of.
Just know everything's doing fine, down here in Lunch Lady Land.

Well yesterday's meatloaf, is today's sloppy joes!

:laugh:

flo
12-10-2011, 05:10 AM
Woke up in the morning, put on my new plastic glove.
Served some re-heated salsbury steak, with a little slice of love.
Got no clue what the chicken pot pie is made of.
Just know everything's doing fine, down here in Lunch Lady Land.

Well yesterday's meatloaf, is today's sloppy joes!

:laugh:

That brought up good memories, rd!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/floranista/lunchlady.jpg

:happydancing:

rockdawg21
12-10-2011, 05:51 AM
That brought up good memories, rd!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/floranista/lunchlady.jpg

:happydancing:
All I could think of was "Sloppy Joe, a slop a sloppy joe!"