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Tyburn
08-26-2011, 05:36 PM
:laugh:

Sooo...for anyone who is interested, I am going to begin posting some videos on various Monarchies around the world, and will give you a small write up of each one.

We begin with Marie Antoinette. She was born into a Noble Family who had links to the throne of Austria, and her Father was the Roman Emporar. She was given to France as a sort of diplomatic peace treaty, its how a lot of things in Europe worked. But King Loius didnt really like her very much.

Anyway, she fell pregnant and gave a Female, and then she fell pregnant again and gave an Heir. This was at the same time Loius was busy supporting the American War of Independance. Finally, she gave him a second Heir before things got nasty with the French Revolution.

During the revolution, a lack of Money (in part due to continuous wars with...well...everybody) and the rise of democratic governments in France saw the King deposed. Marie had plenty of options to escape, but she actively decided to stay in France.

They eventually decided to execute her aswell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRkaZqTfjko

Crisco
08-26-2011, 07:52 PM
Let them eat cake

Tyburn
08-26-2011, 08:21 PM
Let them eat cake

That was certainly not the view of The French...they would rather introduce them to Madame Guillotine :laugh:

Tyburn
08-30-2011, 12:28 PM
There were not many Kings of the Italian Kingdom, I think only four. Queen Margherita was the Consort for Umberto I. She didnt live quite long enough to see the Kingdom fall apart, but long enough to side with the future King and help with the rise of Mussollini (who was appointed by a future King, and thus Her Offspring.)

Umberto I, her husband was assassinated....meanwhile Margherita got a pizza style named after her :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff3unWK14ZA

Tyburn
09-05-2011, 08:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaPJGGkl2rQ

Queen Marie of Yugoslavia...well...technically only by Dowedger. She was a Princess of Romania who married into the family. She Married King Alexander I who was the first King of a United Yugoslavia. His Father has been Serbian, and he was a big mover and shaker of the Serbian Army during the wars in the Bulkans which occured just before the Great War. He was very dictatorial in how he wanted Macedonia to be run.

The Kingdom of Croatia was next to be added to his list. Bosnia wasnt really Bosnia at the time I dont think :laugh: Anyway, his Government was a nightmare from the word go...with political backstabbing, and a murder, Alexander became so infuriated that in 1929 he basically became a dictator.

on a visit to the French Republic he was assassinated on live television by a disgruntled Macedonian. Thankfully Marie had been busy and had already given him a multitude of male heirs.

The result of all of this was quite dire, and well within the confines of the 1900s Yugolsavia had been formed from violence and completely dissolved by violence. Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Macedonia, were...were not...and then were again...and Marie saw the start of the were not...and thankfully died before seeing her Husbands work completely reversed

Tyburn
09-09-2011, 05:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8XS25yPI8

Here is the Wife of possibly the worst King in European History. His Reign was a complete and utter disastor. He took the throne and not long after the Great War Broke out. The war was unpopular, but the King wanted it, and had appointed a Prime Minister to force it through the Government, when the Government reacted badly, the Prime Minister resigned, but the King would not let him go, and vetoed everyone to get the job done for Italy in The First World War.

Following the first world war his popularity sunk lower as he invested in foreign thrones in the Balkans and Africa. He was absolutely silent during the rise of mussollini. Fearing the Nationals would overthrow him, He decided to appoint Mussolini as Prime Minister. Mussolini then entered world war two through negotiations with Adolf Hitler.

The people hated him for it, and he realized that he had to try and save the throne too late. He summoned Mussolini to the Palace and sacked him :laugh: Mussolini didnt really care and continued, forcing the King to flee from Rome and whilst Mussolini controlled the North, the King controlled the South and the Southern part of Italy signed for peace whilst the North continued to fight until the liberation of Berlin when it all fell apart.

The outcry was so great that the King decided to allow the people to vote on abolishment of the Monarchy, and in a last ditch attempt to save the crown he abdicated in favour of his son...it was too little, too late...and His son was on the throne for about a month before being forced into Exhile....and the Three Kings of Italy Grandfather, Father and Son ended the countries flirtation with Monarchic rule.

His Wife was a Humanitarian, who did alot of practical and hands on work with health and she was most unhappy about the Nationals...it was probably her work that persuaded the King to eventually stand up to the Nazis...she paid a heavy price as her daughter was caught by the fascists and died in 1944...she followed the King to South Italy when he abandoned Rome...and followed him into exhile after his abdication.

Tyburn
09-12-2011, 11:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir6Nz2nzGDc

In many countries that now have a democratic government, the family that represents the royal line still continues with very subdued political influence. One such example is The Empire of Japan...and this is, I think, the youngest member of the Royal Family there :ashamed:

adamt
09-12-2011, 01:10 PM
i wish i had a castle

Tyburn
09-16-2011, 07:22 PM
i wish i had a castle

:unsure-1: Very few Monarchies now have Castles...they might have Palaces but Castles...as in a Fortress are few and far between.

Her Majesty has Two that I know of Balmoral Castle, which is her Residence in Scotland, and she likes to use it as a private summer holiday home. and Windsor Castle.

The majority of her Castles are either Ruins, or owned by Land Trusts which use them as tourist traps. There are a few Castles which are still in opporation but some are bascially used by the Governments...and some are believe it or not still in the hands of the Barons.

Ripley castle is an example of that.

I visited Ripley Castle...soooo you can watch this small video and see a working Castle owned by a private family (as in...not Royalty)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbVFGtpPlVc

Tyburn
09-16-2011, 07:56 PM
The French Republic may have seen a violent revolution...but even Madame Guilotine could not see off the Monarchy, and there was a ping pong for a good three centuries between periods of Republicanism, and periods of Monarchy.

The last King of France was Napoleon Bonaparte III who actually became the President.

Of course his line continues and right now Napoleon VIII lives in France. He isnt the only person claiming they should be the current King of France...because of successive periods of Republicanism...there are older monarchs who were removed, and then never re-instigated. I would vouche for swaping to the later established Monarchies each time...but some of the decendant of those older families would despute that.

one such is the Spanish Duke of Anjou He is of the original Monarchic line that was overthrown at the French Revolution. His line was reestablished at the Restoration. Then, in July of 1830 the Bourbon line was replaced by another monarchy...which was a different branch of the same family.

in my eyes this is a natural progresson from bourbon to orleans...and thus eventually to bonaparte. The French Royalists believe that the living member of the Bourbons should be King...and the reason is the Bourbon dynasty owned many monarchies in Europe at one time. including Spain...hence why they recongnise a spainard as their current King...I personally believe that is Fubar...and would advocate Napoleon Bonaparte VIII but they perfer Loius Bourbon XX :laugh: Loius now lives in America :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5X1gKpvHw

Tyburn
09-19-2011, 06:59 PM
So there is Boneparte the Republic King branch. Bourbouns, the Original Monarchy of France...

...and there is Orleans which was a Monarchic Coup to Remove the Bourbons, but replace them with a different wing of the same family.

Here is the Living decendant of the last Orleans King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSGjkH3yfSM

Tyburn
09-23-2011, 09:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alxv_U0pkYg

Now to England, and a short presentation on His Majesty King Edward VII Edward is always missed out because he didnt even rule England for a Decade. He succeeded from Queen Victoria, who died in 1901....and he himself was dead by 1910 :laugh:

Soooo noone really has very much to say about him. He wasnt Victoria, and he didnt lead England through either of the Great Wars...he was just space between one and the other :)

Tyburn
09-28-2011, 06:31 PM
We go on a trip to Uganda and African Country which emerged from the British Empire. Whilst it was in the Empire, it was not a unified country but several smallish states. The largest of which was a Kingdom whose King was called Mutesa II at the time the British granted Freedom. He became President, but General Idi Amin launched a coup against him and the King fled into Exhile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cULPMmtNSWk&feature=feedu

Tyburn
10-12-2011, 05:25 PM
King Ferdinand I of Romania. Generally unspectacular in comparison to some Romanian Leaders of old. But he did have the courage to stand against Germany in the first world war. He died just before the rise of the Nazi party in Germanys 1930s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8o3UNv9hh8

Tyburn
10-14-2011, 05:36 PM
The King Of Bhutan who I posted about in a different thread and inspired me to make a thread like this...we have more news from him.

You will remember that his Father was the last of a few rullers all with the same name who ran their country as a dictatorship and survived near nepal, tibet, china and india. Fearing that George Bush would call his country evil and add it to the list he performed his own Revolution, whereby following a lot of religious oppression, he relaxed his grip, and cleared the jungles of terroristic activites, before abdicating and allowing his Son to rule. All that happened this century. I doubt George Bush ever heard of Bhutan...but it was a prick in the conscience.

Anyway, his Son now rules...and He has just got Married to a lovely Bride :w00t:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTOTFlmYqE

Play The Man
10-14-2011, 11:31 PM
The King Of Bhutan who I posted about in a different thread and inspired me to make a thread like this...we have more news from him.

You will remember that his Father was the last of a few rullers all with the same name who ran their country as a dictatorship and survived near nepal, tibet, china and india. Fearing that George Bush would call his country evil and add it to the list he performed his own Revolution, whereby following a lot of religious oppression, he relaxed his grip, and cleared the jungles of terroristic activites, before abdicating and allowing his Son to rule. All that happened this century. I doubt George Bush ever heard of Bhutan...but it was a prick in the conscience.

Anyway, his Son now rules...and He has just got Married to a lovely Bride :w00t:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTOTFlmYqE

The bride is stunningly beautiful
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/10/13/AP11101305611_540x405.jpg

Tyburn
10-15-2011, 01:50 AM
The bride is stunningly beautiful
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/10/13/AP11101305611_540x405.jpg

Tiz True they make a beautiful pair...I am sure an Heir will follow shortly...and I am certain the offspring produced will be of an exceptional aesthetic quality :laugh:

Tyburn
10-23-2011, 08:41 PM
King Leopold III of Belgium was of the house of Saxe-Coburg Gotha, which incidently still rules by blood both in Belgium AND in England. Yousee that House was the name of Prince Albert who married Queen Victoria. When he died she was so mournful she declaired her own house of hanover was over and that her children would bear her beloveds name.

The reason that Queen Elizabeth is not called Saxe-Coburg Gotha is one of title, and not blood. Technically speaking she is still a blood relative within the house of Saxe-Coburg Gotha...but during the time between wars, her Grandfather, King George did a clever thing and changed his surname by deedpoll because he thought it too Germanic! Instead he decided all his future heirs would be named after his favourite Castle...hence Windsor :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsaxBoX3BI0

You can clearly see that King Leopold and Queen Astrid of Sweeden, were very much in love. Sadly, this story has an unhappy ending for both. A year after his succession to the throne of Belgium, in 1935, the pair went on holiday to switzerland. There was a car crash and the royal car ended up in the lake. Queen Astrid was carrying the Fourth heir at the time, and both she and her unborn child were killed.

Mindful of the expansion of German Imperialism, King Leopold fortified and believed that he had adequet sources to stave off an invasion from Germany, so he turned down the application to join the allied forces and instead declared himself neutral. He was very sorely mistaken, and the third reich descended on the neatherlands and washed through his land.

The Government decided to flee to Paris, anything rather then surrender to Adolf Hitler, but being a military man, and a soldier in the first world war, King Leopold refused to go. This made the Government very angry, they fled to france whereupon they accused him of treason as soon as he had been forced to surrender. They claimed he had acted unconstitutionally and they wanted a new King.

Leo was arrested by the Germans and taken before Adolf Hitler. Leo had two things to say to Hitler which would clear him post the war of charges of Treason. The first was that he would not do any form of governance under the Nazi banner, and secondly, he wanted his Kingdom and its independance back.

Herr Hitler declined to aquiest to his requests :laugh:

Unfortunate circumstances left Leopold in exhile after the war for six years because as the Germans began to withdraw they took their prisoners with them. Which included Leopold and his second wife (they married in secret of course) So he was aghast to find by the time the United States Army had liberated him in Switzerland his Government had popped home from France and changed the locks :laugh: they didnt want him back.

Or rather...some of them did and some of them didnt...infact Belgium ended up in civil crisis with uprisings so bad they had to do a referendum, and Leopold won...but with only 57 percent of the vote, the unrest continued after his return until 1951 when to stop all out civil war, he abdicated.

King Leopold III died the year after I was born. He lies in rest between his two wives :ashamed: perhaps not a sad ending after all...six children, three to each wife succeeds him...one of his Grandchildren sits upon his Throne this day

Tyburn
10-26-2011, 05:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUFC9IvpT0o

Princess Theodora of Greece...who lives in California and works as an actress...considering the state of Greece at present...I'd say she made a very good career change :laugh:

Tyburn
11-16-2011, 04:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7No3f0C8_c

This is Vietnamese King Thanh Thai His Father was murdered after a mere three days on the Throne. The French Authorities interveined to put his Son back onto the Throne for a short reign in the early 1900s

Thanh Thai was a tiny bit to clever for his own good. He sought a ballencing act between appeasing the people and trying to act submissive to the French.

He desperately wanted freedom and loved his people, but he had to keep an eye out for the French. He tried to pass himself off as a dumbass so he could work both sides, and eventually the French saw through this and banished him. :sad:

Tyburn
11-30-2011, 09:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQdGsd3HVIQ

Some of the Albanian Royals...it must be noted that the video begins with King William of 1914. He's a Royal in his own right, a Mixture of Prussian, Belguim, and Romanian thrones. He was appointed over Albania, but didnt last the year as the Albanians became a Republic, although his House continued to exist within Albania til the late 1970s, they never rulled, infact this is the story of Albania...there are many houses which have rulled...the earliest being 1190...however what usually happens is that one of the line falls from grace, and whilst the house continues to spawn, a new house arrises after an interegnum...and so there could be many legitamate Kings of Albania as the fallen Houses continue to spawn WHILST the new house reigns.

The House prior to William began in 1444, but ended in 1479....Similarly whilst his House ceased to reign from 1914 (the same year it was established) by the late 1920s, despite still being alive, and never abdicating...King Zog...of an entirely different house was on the throne.

to make matters really difficult...Zog was still reigning when the Italians invaded during the second world war.

in 1944 effectively THREE entirely different Royal House Holds were present in Albania. William from 1914, Zog from 1920s...and then the Italian King Victor.

Sadly...in 1945 the Italians withdrew and the Throne collapsed...William died in the same year and somehow his Son wasnt accepted...and Zog who continued to reign...did not Rule....its most bizzare...so Zogs Children live today in a kinda limbo...it appears that regardless of how many houses are running, only the latest can be the actual monarch...and of course the Italian Throne crumbled by public opinion after the second world war...so the Zogs are stuck in Limbo...alive...but unable to sit on a throne now vacent as they were Eclipsed, and their eclipsers never replaced but no longer in existance :blink:

Tyburn
01-06-2012, 01:34 PM
We go to Spain for King Amadeo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NVbEzrK4ks

Actually Amadeo is of the Italian Royal Houses, but after the Spanish Revolution the powers that be decided to install him as their King, re-introducing the Monarchy to Spain.

He was ellected by The Court of Generals...which was basically a Spanish Parliament which was extremely partisan and extremely unstable. He lasted less then five years, probably because his major backers began to dissapear from the political scene, some were assasinated, some pushed out through corruption.

When The Government and the Military itself began to dissagree he basically told the whole sherbang where they could stick their throne and crown, abdicated, and went back to Italy :laugh:

Tyburn
02-07-2012, 06:37 PM
its been a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGBaM0QQ7w

Here is the present King of Prussia...Now Prussia used to be the seat of Germanic power during the late 1800s. Kaiser Wilhelm II was one of Queen Victorias Grandchildren on the Maternal side, which of course made for a terrible family relationship during the Great War :laugh:

Under Wilhelm served the German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck. The two did not get along, and whilst Wilhelm was brash and immature, Otto was manipulative and calculating. Infact the Monarchy and the Chancellory had never gotten on. The problem was largely that the Kaiser position in relation to the Chancellory was supposed to be what the British Monarch is to the British Prime Minister. Added to this was the sence that neither aggreed politically, and both men wanted some form of supreme power at the others expense.

Otto favoured Rightwing, Wilhelm favoured socialism...and when Otto gained majority in the German Parliament the relationship reached confrontational proportions. The two played an outstanding twenty year battle of workplace politics within politics itself until the Kaiser won....but victory was short lived when Wilhelm backed the wrong side of the Great War. He was a close friend of Franz Ferdinand whose assasination started the war ball rolling. Germany became hated for what the Kaiser had done, and slowly but surely the Military support for Wilhelm dissapated. The British Throne was so horrified by that wing of the family, that they changed their surname by deedpole. The Americans were so angry that they basically told Germany that whilst Wilhelm was Kaiser they would not be inviting Germany to the peace talks after the war.

So Wilhelm abdicated and the Monarchy in Germany evaporated. Wilhelm blamed the Jews entirely for his downfall. With his temper and immaturity he suggested a great many ways of dealing with them. Yet he was horrified when Adolf Hitler burst onto the scene and began to litterally do what had been suggested. The feeling was mutual, Hitler might have been doing what Wilhelm suggested, but from the Chancellors point of view the Kaiser was responsible for the problems that Hitler was now trying to reverse with his march across europe.

Kaiser Wilhelm died before the outcome of the second world war in a time where it looked like Hitler might just eclipse everything the German Empire had once been.

Three or four Generations on from Wilhelm, Prince George of Prussia still exists as one of many lines long since without a throne.

Tyburn
06-08-2012, 06:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWQbePID3Go

The British Monarch, Queen Elizabeth II :laugh:

Tyburn
06-25-2012, 09:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nsjfL-muo0&feature=g-u-u

The Kings Consort of Thailand.

Tyburn
09-08-2012, 05:11 PM
The Grand Duke of Luxemburg, is part of the Rulling Elite of the Kingdom of The Netherlands.

Its relatively complicated to explain, what you have to remember, is that almost all Royalty in Europe is related to each other. The German House of Nassau is generally considered as the family that now resides over Luxemburg.

Luxemburg grew out of the collapse of the French who retreated from Prussia...at this point in time, there wasnt a unified Europe in the countries we know today, especially not around the North East...these little areas were owned by various members of the same family who had followed different lines. When Napoleonic voids swept across their lands they began a kind of Family reunion, and each redefined who owned what and which constitution belonged to who. Thats the first time Luxemburg became its own little state. The Monarch was not a King, but a line of Dukes from the King of Netherlands family. Yet despite not being a King, he has complete autonomy outside of this aggreed union of progression regarding his Throne. Head of State, but not to be addressed as His Majesty.

Recently, the current Grand Duke got in trouble for refusing to allow euthanasia in his country and His Government basically Constitutionally wrote him out of being required to sign stuff into law :laugh:

People sometimes argue that even this line is corrupt...because once the Grand Dukes of Luxemburgs lineage began, a Member of the line Called William only had Daughters...according to the law, the succession had to pass through all Males. The closest Male Relative was the result of a Union between Royalty and commoner...this quickly became as bad as being an Illegitamate Union in Europe...many familes have claims to Thrones removed because the marriages involved people in lowly status. They put a Woman on the throne instead of the closest male relative...thus excluding that mans family line...which, according to their rules should have been appointed Grand Duke.

Illegitmate Lines are not to be followed...but I think its dangerous to say that LEGITAMATE marriages between people of different classes produce illegitamate offspring in terms of lineage. Whilst its easy to say the British do not have this problem because Women are allowed to Rule in the absence of a direct male heir...lets not forget that The Glorious Revolution bypassed nearly 100 heirs to the British Throne on account that the new rule, Monarchs cant be Roman Catholics, had just appeared :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZb9rxd6kAQ

Tyburn
11-02-2012, 09:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4htRaf_ewM

Its the Wife of the Future Heir of Japan, who is the eldest son of the current Emporar Akihito...whose, frankly, a lovely pensioner :laugh:

meanwhile, her Majesty makes a speech at the Indonesian State Banquette

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t1vYRix5fs

:cool:

Tyburn
02-02-2013, 03:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-E4vlCfhM

We go back to the Roman Empire now, and to the Wife of Augustus.

Augustus was an increadible man, adopted into the family of Julius Caesar. Julius was murdered by Senators and so Augustus had to restore order, and set up Three distinct areas of the Roman Republic, and put a different Military dictatorship in each one. Unfortunately the Military men fell out and Augustus then had to undergo civil war between these three areas until he prevailed, and re-united the Empire and Ruled as a Military Dictatorship with himself as the man in charge. Day to day running seemed to pass more and more over time to the Senate once more.

The Roman Empire came into a time of great peace and concord under his dictatorship....a peace which extended down a line of Emporars for two centuries until the Senate was large enough to once again demand control. You tend to find this flip-flop between Dictator and Democracy...Each one begins soundly, then becomes corrupt and so it replaced by the other, which then does the same. The easiest way to know which ethos the Romans were under at any one time is to ask what the Nation was called...Roman Empire equates to a Dictator, Roman Republic equates to the Senate with/without an Emporar.

Augusta had three wives, not all at the same time, and Livia was the third and final. She was married to him the longest, and became his Widow. It is thus not suprising that it was from her that the next rullers of Rome eminated. But Augusta was NOT her first Husband. What is even more interesting is that her First Husband was called Tiberius Claudius Nero. Her Rulling Son was called Tiberius, and her Grandchild was called...Claudius...and skip a third Generation, and the name of the Forth was Nero :laugh:

Tiberius Claudius Nero was an arranged marriage, and he was a bad man..he was one of those in league with the senate that killed Augustus adopted Father :laugh: They were exhiled to greece, the entire family, until Augustus forgave them. The absolute irony is that the Child Tiberius was from Tiberius Claudius Nero...the next Emporar, would be the son of the guy in league with the killing of Julius, and raised by his adopted son.

Augustus devorced his second Wife, to marry Livia...his second Wife was already carrying his Child...but that didnt matter to Augustus. There is some feelings that these other children, both natural born, and adoptive, were murdered so that Livias first Child Tiberius could be the successor.

The Senate renounced their coorperation to Augustus once he died, as was traditional, but Augustus had already planned for this by changing Livias surname to Julian. Tiberius was not happy because he felt like he was constantly living in the shade of his Mother. She had been granted a psedo Emporarship, and yet he was Emporar and the two didnt agree on anything. He actually left Rome to her because he couldnt cope and didnt return until she died of natural causes. She had essentially been both his Mother and his Wife politically, and had been far louder and assertive then he.

Livia never had a biological son with Augustus. They tried, but it ended up as a misscarriage.. Tiberius never married, but had a few flings and a few children, in the end, the line moved to the Son of the child born to the Woman that Augustus crudely devorced whilst pregnant, rather then any of Tiberius offspring.

Tyburn
05-05-2013, 11:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ffO3hm_Gc

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands decided to abdicate last week due to old age. I'm against Abdication to be honnest. :unsure-1:

Tyburn
12-12-2013, 10:49 PM
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9684/ncjk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/ncjk.jpg/)

I think its difficult to say who this is :laugh: My first instinct is to say its George V and Mary....But Mary doesnt look quite right...I'm wondering if it could infact be Edward and Alexandra...I say that also, because they look like they are visiting somewhere...that could be India...now they are a bit dressed up to be their, and sitting on thrones....during Edwards Reign, he was also Emporar of India you see...Now under George the commonwealth began its early formations under his reign, so I'm not sure whether he stayed as Emporar, or whether he gave up that title...or at the very least, if that title became diminshed enough, that such pagentry wouldnt happen...although, it is true that he traveled to india after his coronation to present himself to his indian subjects...and if this is George, then I would say that is when this photograph was taken.

Tyburn
02-10-2014, 07:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9Uudkx42g

A magnificent montage to one of the most regal themes in English Monarchism