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NateR
03-14-2009, 05:27 AM
I was going through an old photo album and I noticed that my Bosnia photos from 96/97 aren't aging that well at all. So I decided that I needed to digitize them now while there was still something left to scan.

Anyways, here's a couple from driving in the convoy from Hungary to the Sava River which divides Croatia and Bosnia. You can see the highway signs listing Slavonski Brod (our destination), Sarajevo (where the longest siege in the history of modern warfare took place, from April 1992 to February 1996) and Duboj. These convoy photos were taken in late September 1996 when we first arrived in country.
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0002.jpg
Another highway sign and you can make out Zagreb (in Croatia), Sarajevo again, and Tuzla, Bosnia (where one of the main US camps was):
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0003.jpg
Croatian homes as seen from the road:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0013.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0014.jpg
The general Bosnia countryside during late Fall and it was colder than it looks. You can still make out a road with a military vehicle on it. We were in a base camp called Camp Bedrock. It was essentially an Army base that took up the entire top of a mountain and it gave us a great view of the surrounding area (which was kind of the whole point):
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0001.jpg
A few shots of our motor pool (a fancy Army word for parking lot :laugh: ) as seen from Camp Bedrock:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0004.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0007.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0012.jpg
Some random shots from Camp Bedrock, the giant tires were filled with dirt and were designed to deflect ground fire (Bosnia has no Air Force so we never had to worry about air strikes):
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0005.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0006.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0010.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0011.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0016.jpg
Our living quarters, we stayed in tents reinforced with wooden frames and the walkways were there because Bosnia still contained millions of unaccounted for land mines, so you NEVER wanted to walk on ground that hadn't already been cleared by minesweepers. In the first photo, that's a bomb shelter on the right in case of a missile attack:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0008.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0009.jpg
Some shots from inside the tents, the guy reading the book was a friend of mine, Oliver. He was a big tattoo nut and I designed a lot of tattoos for him:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0015.jpg
Us playing cards, I think I had just gotten off of guard duty that's why I'm still in uniform (they brought in sodas everyday as a way to boost morale). I only weighed 165 pounds back then:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0017.jpg

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 05:33 AM
you weren't lying when you said these photos aren't aging well.

NateR
03-14-2009, 05:35 AM
In February of 1997, I was moved to a float bridge engineer unit whose primary mission was to babysit one of the two bridges that linked Bosnia and Croatia over the Sava River.

Here are some shots of the Bosnia side of the river:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN01.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN02.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN03.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN04.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN05.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN06.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN08.jpg
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosniaPAN09.jpg

You can see the toll that the war took on the civilian areas and there were constantly groups of young children going around begging for food. They would specifically ask for MRE's (Meal, Ready to Eat) which is a bagged Army ration containing one meal for one soldier. These Bosnian families would take these MRE's and make one last an entire week for a whole family. As you can imagine, I didn't see a single overweight kid while we were in that country.

NateR
03-14-2009, 05:37 AM
you weren't lying when you said these photos aren't aging well.

They're only 12 years old, I was kind of surprised with the condition they were in. But I had them developed while I was in Croatia, so I'm sure it's because they were using substandard processing.

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 05:42 AM
They're only 12 years old, I was kind of surprised with the condition they were in. But I had them developed while I was in Croatia, so I'm sure it's because they were using substandard processing.

freakin' Croatians.....just kidding Pat :huh:

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 05:43 AM
Wow, those are some pretty cool pictures...in a sad way. How long were you there?

NateR
03-14-2009, 05:48 AM
Wow, those are some pretty cool pictures...in a sad way. How long were you there?

8 months, from September 1996 through May 1997.

We were originally going to tear down all the base camps because Bush Sr. had only authorized the mission to last until 1996. However, Bill Clinton extended our mission over there indefinitely AFTER we had deployed. Which made us an engineer unit with nothing to do, so they sent people around doing odd jobs to keep everyone busy. I got stuck pulling 14 hour radio watch shifts every single day, until they moved me to the float bridge unit.

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:01 AM
Must have been the longest 8 months of your life :blink: Over all. what did you think of the experience?

8 months, from September 1996 through May 1997.

We were originally going to tear down all the base camps because Bush Sr. had only authorized the mission to last until 1996. However, Bill Clinton extended our mission over there indefinitely AFTER we had deployed. Which made us an engineer unit with nothing to do, so they sent people around doing odd jobs to keep everyone busy. I got stuck pulling 14 hour radio watch shifts every single day, until they moved me to the float bridge unit.

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:05 AM
Nathan, it blew my mind, and still does, how quickly things change--the Olympics were held in Sarajevo just in 1984, a few short years before this horror started. :cry:

It looks really cold and miserable in those pics.

You look real good though.

Makes me sad and sick how man can justify the atrocities he commits because he thinks he's superior to another human being.

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:09 AM
It looks really cold and miserable in those pics.



so negative :tongue0011:

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:10 AM
Nathan, it blew my mind, and still does, how quickly things change--the Olympics were held in Sarajevo just in 1984, a few short years before this horror started. :cry:



oh yeah, and you're aging yourself Bonnie :ninja: :tongue0011:

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:11 AM
Must have been the longest 8 months of your life :blink: Over all. what did you think of the experience?

It was, I really didn't like being over there at all. Y'know how when you look back on bad experiences and they don't seem so bad in retrospect, and you kind of wish that you could go back to that time and do things a little differently? Well, while Bosnia doesn't seem as horrible now, 12 years later, I would NEVER want to go back to that situation.

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:15 AM
:laugh:
Was that right after you joined? Your first trip out of the States?

It was, I really didn't like being over there at all. Y'know how when you look back on bad experiences and they don't seem so bad in retrospect, and you kind of wish that you could go back to that time and do things a little differently? Well, while Bosnia doesn't seem as horrible now, 12 years later, I would NEVER want to go back to that situation.

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:19 AM
so negative :tongue0011:

Oh, good 'cause I thought maybe I was being redundant about something so obvious. :rolleyes:

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:21 AM
Nathan, it blew my mind, and still does, how quickly things change--the Olympics were held in Sarajevo just in 1984, a few short years before this horror started. :cry:

It looks really cold and miserable in those pics.

You look real good though.

Makes me sad and sick how man can justify the atrocities he commits because he thinks he's superior to another human being.

It was a bad situation over there. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Yugoslavia simply resumed a war that had been going on for centuries. The factions were the Croatians, Serbs and Muslims. None of them really innocent in the conflict and all guilty of some pretty horrifying stuff. However, at least Croatia had the good sense to break off into it's own country. Now the Serbs and Muslims are just waiting for UN forces to leave so they can resume their ethnic cleansing (both would exterminate the other if given the chance).

One cool thing was that we got to sit down to Thanksgiving dinner with Russian soldiers while we were there. That would have been inconceivable just three years earlier.:cool:

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:23 AM
Oh, good 'cause I thought maybe I was being redundant about something so obvious. :rolleyes:

think positive.....pessimists not allowed :wink:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:25 AM
oh yeah, and you're aging yourself Bonnie :ninja: :tongue0011:

I don't need to age myself. Father Time is doing a bang up job on that front. :laugh:

Besides, am I supposed to be ashamed of my age baby Goat? :tongue0011:

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:25 AM
:laugh:
Was that right after you joined? Your first trip out of the States?

Nope, I joined in 1991 and spent two years in Germany from 1992-94. I got out of the Regular Army in 1994 and was obligated to do 2 years in the National Guard; but I reenlisted to Active Duty in 1995 (the National Guard is just "Army-Lite" so it was more frustrating in many ways) and volunteered for Bosnia in 1996. :wacko:

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:28 AM
You look real good though.

Thanks, BTW. :cool: Although I don't think I could ever get back down to that weight (165). I'm 241 now (down from 255) and would eventually like to get back down into the 190s (I think my heart would be happy with that). :laugh:

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:29 AM
I don't need to age myself. Father Time is doing a bang up job on that front. :laugh:

Besides, am I supposed to be ashamed of my age baby Goat? :tongue0011:

actually i don't even know how old you are....but i have an idea :ninja: :tongue0011:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:34 AM
think positive.....pessimists not allowed :wink:

I really am a positive person, Goat. That glass is going to be half full 99.99999999999% of the time.

I was in class one day asking my college professor a ? while she was writing on the chalk board and she happened to break her chalk in two. She said, "Now look what you made me do." And I said, "Now you have two pieces instead of one." Stopped her in her tracks with her mouth hanging open (and believe me when I say it was a rare thing to stump this particular lady professor). :laugh:

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:37 AM
Good job NateR. And just think how much your stamina would improve :biggrin-1:

Have you seen a picture of your brother lately? :w00t:




Thanks, BTW. :cool: Although I don't think I could ever get back down to that weight (165). I'm 241 now (down from 255) and would eventually like to get back down into the 190s (I think my heart would be happy with that). :laugh:

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:39 AM
Have you seen a picture of your brother lately? :w00t:

Nope, I figure I'll see him eventually. :laugh: Did he post something new on his MySpace?

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:39 AM
Well that's something to be proud of anyway. I wished I'd done something like that when I was younger instead of...well, oh nevermind :laugh:


Nope, I joined in 1991 and spent two years in Germany from 1992-94. I got out of the Regular Army in 1994 and was obligated to do 2 years in the National Guard; but I reenlisted to Active Duty in 1995 (the National Guard is just "Army-Lite" so it was more frustrating in many ways) and volunteered for Bosnia in 1996. :wacko:

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:40 AM
Yeah, he looks pretty hot to :laugh:


Nope, I figure I'll see him eventually. :laugh: Did he post something new on his MySpace?

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:41 AM
I really am a positive person, Goat. That glass is going to be half full 99.99999999999% of the time.

I was in class one day asking my college professor a ? while she was writing on the chalk board and she happened to break her chalk in two. She said, "Now look what you made me do." And I said, "Now you have two pieces instead of one." Stopped her in her tracks with her mouth hanging open (and believe me when I say it was a rare thing to stump this particular lady professor). :laugh:

that's weak that a college Professor would blame you, or any student for that matter, for breaking her chalk.:huh:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:42 AM
actually i don't even know how old you are....but i have an idea :ninja: :tongue0011:

My birthday is coming up in April so you can wish me a "Happy Birthday Bonnie" and add another year on to that "idea". :wink:

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:45 AM
Is it by any chance April 15th?

My birthday is coming up in April so you can wish me a "Happy Birthday Bonnie" and add another year on to that "idea". :wink:

Mac
03-14-2009, 06:46 AM
Man , that looks like a horrible place . I can see why the would want to boost morale , I couldnt help but feel depressed everytime i opened my eyes if thats all i had to look at.

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:46 AM
My birthday is coming up in April so you can wish me a "Happy Birthday Bonnie" and add another year on to that "idea". :wink:

mine too

Hughes_GOAT
03-14-2009, 06:47 AM
Is it by any chance April 15th?

hush you :laugh:

Bonnie's Birthday is after April 19th....i can feel it :blink:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:48 AM
that's weak that a college Professor would blame you, or any student for that matter, for breaking her chalk.:huh:

Nah, she thought she was gonna "get me"; she just didn't expect me to come back at her so fast. :laugh: You had to know her to appreciate her. Although I didn't appreciate the wisdom of some advice she gave me at the time, in hindsight, she was right and I regret not listening to her. She was very opinionated and strong-minded, but a good professor. Plus, she really liked me. I think I was one of her favorites. :wink:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:50 AM
hush you :laugh:

Bonnie's Birthday is after April 19th....i can feel it :blink:

Isn't that Goat's birthday? He's a tax baby. :tongue0011:

No, my birthday is on the 3rd. I get to be an "Easter" baby every several years.

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 06:54 AM
They had the hot chick posters Mac.Duh.


Man , that looks like a horrible place . I can see why the would want to boost morale , I couldnt help but feel depressed everytime i opened my eyes if thats all i had to look at.

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 06:56 AM
Thanks, BTW. :cool: Although I don't think I could ever get back down to that weight (165). I'm 241 now (down from 255) and would eventually like to get back down into the 190s (I think my heart would be happy with that). :laugh:

That's great, Nathan! We can cheer each other on.

So, you "volunteered" for Bosnia. Wow, Nate, it's something to be sent there, but to volunteer. You're bustin' my "respect" meter through the roof. I'm glad you got back safely and I got to "meet" you here on Matt's site. :)

NateR
03-14-2009, 06:58 AM
Man , that looks like a horrible place . I can see why the would want to boost morale , I couldnt help but feel depressed everytime i opened my eyes if thats all i had to look at.

And these photos don't even show the disturbing stuff.

NateR
03-14-2009, 07:06 AM
They had the hot chick posters Mac.Duh.

Speaking of which, you all knew that my dad was an ordained Baptist Minister, correct? Well, I took a couple of rolls worth of photos, but I didn't know that one of the guys in my tent, Cuebas, had grabbed my camera while I was in the shower and took a bunch of photos of the Playboy centerfolds that he had pinned up around his cot. He thought I might get a laugh out of it, but he didn't realize that I was planning to mail the rolls of film back home to my dad to get them developed.:unsure-1:

Anyways, my dad was a Vietnam vet so he kind of figured out what had happened before I could explain, but I really played up the "you sent pictures of naked girls to my dad... the preacher" when I told Cuebas about it. :laugh:

But I got off easy compared to one of our sergeants. He was sending his film back to his wife to get developed and they laid a bunch of porno mags around his cot, with a picture of his wife and son by his pillow, and snapped a bunch of photos of that. :frantics:

I would say "good times" but they really weren't. That Cuebas guy was from New York and loved to test my patience, until I told him that I was writing his name on one of my bullets. Then he left me alone, but I got sent to anger management classes.:rolleyes:

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 07:14 AM
Speaking of which, you all knew that my dad was an ordained Baptist Minister, correct? Well, I took a couple of rolls worth of photos, but I didn't know that one of the guys in my tent, Cuebas, had grabbed my camera while I was in the shower and took a bunch of photos of the Playboy centerfolds that he had pinned up around his cot. He thought I might get a laugh out of it, but he didn't realize that I was planning to mail the rolls of film back home to my dad to get them developed.:unsure-1:

Anyways, my dad was a Vietnam vet so he kind of figured out what had happened before I could explain, but I really played up the "you sent pictures of naked girls to my dad... the preacher" when I told Cuebas about it. :laugh:

But I got off easy compared to one of our sergeants. He was sending his film back to his wife to get developed and they laid a bunch of porno mags around his cot, with a picture of his wife and son by his pillow, and snapped a bunch of photos of that. :frantics:

I would say "good times" but they really weren't. That Cuebas guy was from New York and loved to test my patience, until I told him that I was writing his name on one of my bullets. Then he left me alone, but I got sent to anger management classes.:rolleyes:

That probably just reinforced to him that he better stay away from you or you might go postal on his @$$! :laugh:

NateR
03-14-2009, 07:17 AM
That's great, Nathan! We can cheer each other on.

So, you "volunteered" for Bosnia. Wow, Nate, it's something to be sent there, but to volunteer. You're bustin' my "respect" meter through the roof. I'm glad you got back safely and I got to "meet" you here on Matt's site. :)

Thanks! What's really been helping me is getting advice directly from Matt. So I'm off of white bread, white sugar, white potatoes, and white rice. He taught me that controlling portion sizes is key, and that's been my real big breakthrough so far. If you put both of your hands into a fist and put them together, that's about the size of your stomach, so if you have more than that amount of food on your plate, they you are overeating. Plus you should always stop eating while you still feel hungry. If you wait until you feel full, then you've already overeaten.

Bonnie
03-14-2009, 07:39 AM
Thanks! What's really been helping me is getting advice directly from Matt. So I'm off of white bread, white sugar, white potatoes, and white rice. He taught me that controlling portion sizes is key, and that's been my real big breakthrough so far. If you put both of your hands into a fist and put them together, that's about the size of your stomach, so if you have more than that amount of food on your plate, they you are overeating. Plus you should always stop eating while you still feel hungry. If you wait until you feel full, then you've already overeaten.

That's great that you're able to get advice directly from someone who really knows his stuff. I just read where if you want to lose belly fat, stay away from all the "white" stuff. Portion control is definitely key to losing weight and maintaining it as well as exercise. I like to walk and do my Nordic Track as well as Pilates. What do you do?

TexasRN
03-14-2009, 12:31 PM
Thanks! What's really been helping me is getting advice directly from Matt. So I'm off of white bread, white sugar, white potatoes, and white rice. He taught me that controlling portion sizes is key, and that's been my real big breakthrough so far. If you put both of your hands into a fist and put them together, that's about the size of your stomach, so if you have more than that amount of food on your plate, they you are overeating. Plus you should always stop eating while you still feel hungry. If you wait until you feel full, then you've already overeaten.


There's s switch in your brain that tells you when you have eaten enough. It is connnected to the stretch sensors of your stomach. Some people feel full faster than others because their switch works. So sometimes the trick is to time when you allow yourself to get a second helping or eat dessert. Wait 20-30 minutes after your first helping before getting anything else. The brain will then have had time to trigger that switch. This can be espcially helpful at big family dinners at the holidays or at a buffet.


~Amy

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 04:21 PM
Did you take pictures of the disturbing stuff? :unsure-1:

And these photos don't even show the disturbing stuff.

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 04:23 PM
:w00t:


:laugh: :happy0198:

Speaking of which, you all knew that my dad was an ordained Baptist Minister, correct? Well, I took a couple of rolls worth of photos, but I didn't know that one of the guys in my tent, Cuebas, had grabbed my camera while I was in the shower and took a bunch of photos of the Playboy centerfolds that he had pinned up around his cot. He thought I might get a laugh out of it, but he didn't realize that I was planning to mail the rolls of film back home to my dad to get them developed.:unsure-1:

Anyways, my dad was a Vietnam vet so he kind of figured out what had happened before I could explain, but I really played up the "you sent pictures of naked girls to my dad... the preacher" when I told Cuebas about it. :laugh:

But I got off easy compared to one of our sergeants. He was sending his film back to his wife to get developed and they laid a bunch of porno mags around his cot, with a picture of his wife and son by his pillow, and snapped a bunch of photos of that. :frantics:

I would say "good times" but they really weren't. That Cuebas guy was from New York and loved to test my patience, until I told him that I was writing his name on one of my bullets. Then he left me alone, but I got sent to anger management classes.:rolleyes:

NateR
03-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Did you take pictures of the disturbing stuff? :unsure-1:

:no:

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 05:33 PM
Not that I wanted to see it or anything :unsure-1:
:ninja:


:no:

Black Mamba
03-14-2009, 06:37 PM
Wow, Nate those pictures and some of the stories you shared are just amazing but some of the pictures give off a creepy feel. I can only imagine what other stuff you saw that you didn't capture on film.

And I'm proud to hear of your weight lost too. :cool: Good job and keep it up.

Primadawn
03-14-2009, 06:41 PM
Thanks for sharing Nate! Looks like a lovely place to visit. (Not) My brother told similar stories about kids begging for MREs in Iraq--and also for candy, which they always seemed to think the soldiers should have. However, he also had pics of 8-10 yr olds standing on the streets with weapons...so he said they weren't able to interact with the kids much since they're used. He hated that part the most--he used to say how crazy it made him feel knowing that he might have to kill a kid. (He didn't though, at least not that he knows of..)

Soooo...you did tattoo designs eh? I'm looking for someone to draw a piece to cover mine...are you the guy? :Whistle:

FYI--I don't eat white food either--no refined sugar, etc..it's worked great and I find that if I eat that way most of the time, when I reallllllly want something "bad"..I can eat it without it hurting me....

Llamafighter
03-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Wow Nate, great photos. I'm sure you can breath some life into them with your photoshop skills!
Thanks for sharing these with us and please post more.
Congrats on the weight loss too. I was about to sarcasticly say "if only you had some resource handy to help you get fit" ;)
Soda is another big thing to cut out. I've heard you mention that you like soda, I think. Also give yourself a cheat day to enjoy some of those things you can't normally have.

Llamafighter
03-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Thanks for sharing Nate! Looks like a lovely place to visit. (Not) My brother told similar stories about kids begging for MREs in Iraq--and also for candy, which they always seemed to think the soldiers should have. However, he also had pics of 8-10 yr olds standing on the streets with weapons...so he said they weren't able to interact with the kids much since they're used. He hated that part the most--he used to say how crazy it made him feel knowing that he might have to kill a kid. (He didn't though, at least not that he knows of..)

Soooo...you did tattoo designs eh? I'm looking for someone to draw a piece to cover mine...are you the guy? :Whistle:

FYI--I don't eat white food either--no refined sugar, etc..it's worked great and I find that if I eat that way most of the time, when I reallllllly want something "bad"..I can eat it without it hurting me....

Yeah you could probably make a pretty dime by designing some of us forum members tattoos:)

MattHughesRocks
03-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Yeah I want MattHughesRocks around my belly button! :w00t:


Yeah you could probably make a pretty dime by designing some of us forum members tattoos:)

Llamafighter
03-14-2009, 09:22 PM
Yeah I want MattHughesRocks around my belly button! :w00t:

Do over...


So where do you want to get "MattHughesRocks around my belly button" tattoed;)

rockdawg21
03-14-2009, 10:09 PM
Wow, thanks for the photos Nate. I guess Behind Enemy Lines wasn't so crappy after all (at least they got the scenery correct).

Tyburn
03-15-2009, 12:16 AM
http://www.matt-hughes.com/images/misc/bosniaphotos/bosnia0017.jpg
you look so.....young there. :scared0015:

The country looked...really quite desolate...and yet also beautiful with the mountains around the camp.

Tyburn
03-15-2009, 12:23 AM
freakin' Croatians.....just kidding Pat :huh:
:ninja: try Mirko. :laugh: if Sam Sheridan is to be believed, Pat is not Croatian except possibly by heratage :ninja:

I dont know if thats true. But Miletich certainly dont look Eastern European :mellow:

Tyburn
03-15-2009, 12:27 AM
It was a bad situation over there. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Yugoslavia simply resumed a war that had been going on for centuries. The factions were the Croatians, Serbs and Muslims. None of them really innocent in the conflict and all guilty of some pretty horrifying stuff. However, at least Croatia had the good sense to break off into it's own country. Now the Serbs and Muslims are just waiting for UN forces to leave so they can resume their ethnic cleansing (both would exterminate the other if given the chance).

One cool thing was that we got to sit down to Thanksgiving dinner with Russian soldiers while we were there. That would have been inconceivable just three years earlier.:cool:
That band of nations were a MAJOR trigger of the first world war that everyone likes to forget.

Archduke Franz Ferdinand if I remember rightly, assasinated :ninja:

MattHughesRocks
03-15-2009, 12:27 AM
My little finger? :unsure-1:

Do over...


So where do you want to get "MattHughesRocks around my belly button" tattoed;)

Tyburn
03-15-2009, 12:30 AM
That Cuebas guy was from New York and loved to test my patience, until I told him that I was writing his name on one of my bullets. Then he left me alone, but I got sent to anger management classes.:rolleyes:
Bully :mellow:

:laugh:

Hughes_GOAT
03-15-2009, 03:16 AM
:ninja: try Mirko. :laugh: if Sam Sheridan is to be believed, Pat is not Croatian except possibly by heratage :ninja:

I dont know if thats true. But Miletich certainly dont look Eastern European :mellow:

well he was wearing those Croatian military shirts a while back.

NateR
03-15-2009, 06:16 AM
Wow, thanks for the photos Nate. I guess Behind Enemy Lines wasn't so crappy after all (at least they got the scenery correct).

I liked that movie. While our entire battalion combined never saw that much action, they still got the overall atmosphere of the country right. Their portrayal of the the B.S. that the soldiers over there have to put up with was dead on accurate, too.

NateR
03-15-2009, 06:21 AM
:ninja: try Mirko. :laugh: if Sam Sheridan is to be believed, Pat is not Croatian except possibly by heratage :ninja:

I dont know if thats true. But Miletich certainly dont look Eastern European :mellow:

Miletich is Croatian by genetics, but not by geography. He was born and raised in the US; but he has been to visit Croatia. He was telling me once how beautiful it was, he obviously only went to the nice parts.:laugh:

Actually Croatia was fairly stabilized when I was there. There were still bullet holes in most of the building and the social classes were all screwed up. You'd see rich men in suits driving BMWs right past groups of bone-thin children begging for food. However, all of the violence was pretty well contained on the other side of the border.

Moose
03-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Actually Croatia was fairly stabilized when I was there. There were still bullet holes in most of the building and the social classes were all screwed up. You'd see rich men in suits driving BMWs right past groups of bone-thin children begging for food. However, all of the violence was pretty well contained on the other side of the border.

Yeah, I've been to Chicago too.

NateR
03-15-2009, 06:39 AM
Yeah, I've been to Chicago too.

Yeah, it's nice to know that Obama's decades of service as a "community organizer" have made a real difference in that city.:tongue0011:

Hughes_GOAT
03-15-2009, 06:39 AM
Miletich is Croatian by genetics, but not by geography. He was born and raised in the US; but he has been to visit Croatia. He was telling me once how beautiful it was, he obviously only went to the nice parts.:laugh:



http://www.gifbin.com/bin/20048442yu.gif

Tyburn
03-15-2009, 07:52 PM
Miletich is Croatian by genetics, but not by geography. He was born and raised in the US; but he has been to visit Croatia. He was telling me once how beautiful it was, he obviously only went to the nice parts.:laugh:

Actually Croatia was fairly stabilized when I was there. There were still bullet holes in most of the building and the social classes were all screwed up. You'd see rich men in suits driving BMWs right past groups of bone-thin children begging for food. However, all of the violence was pretty well contained on the other side of the border.
We call it Hereditary.

He's got Heratage in Croatia, but he is not Croation, unless he was born there...the exception being if his direct parents are natvies....then with the bloodline being so close to Croatia...yes...I suppose he is.

But look at the bone Structure of his face. I dont think its Eastern European. I'd have to meet him in person really, camera perspective can be ellusive...but I will hopefully meet him in person later this year :laugh:

J.B.
03-16-2009, 01:47 AM
Very cool pics Nate, thanks for sharing :)