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Dethbob
07-29-2011, 09:19 PM
Can you think of a time when music changed the world? The Sixties are often touted as such an occasion, but a lot of that music was inspired by those events rather than the cause of them. Can anyone think of a piece or even a genre of music that caused a measurable change?

flo
07-29-2011, 09:22 PM
Hmmm, that's a very interesting question, I'll have to think about that for a while.

IMO, you are right about the "protest" songs of the late 60's and early 70's.

I believe music is powerful in both healing and harming. I'm not sure about a genre of music being able to change the world. Certainly, that was impossible before the 19th century simply due to the inabilityto share a specific music with other cultures. But very thoughtful topic!

Dethbob
07-29-2011, 09:28 PM
Of course I should clarify that I meant “other than ‘A Country Boy Can Survive’”.

Buzzard
07-29-2011, 11:02 PM
I don't think it can change the world. I think it can change individual outlooks on the world, and cause people to react. Of course I'm a cynical one now, so my views are jaded.

Miss Foxy
07-29-2011, 11:23 PM
I don't think it can change the world. I think it can change individual outlooks on the world, and cause people to react. Of course I'm a cynical one now, so my views are jaded.

I agree completely with what you pointed out as music changing the individual outlooks on the world. I am driven by personal expression and music is one of the ways I do so.

cheachea
07-30-2011, 12:57 AM
It already has. I'm a product of it. Much of the 60's and 70's rock was influenced by Aleister Crowley a Satanist.




This is the Beatles throwing up the 666 hand sign

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTz1RshocfoZdd6Gr8wNY2ppBwZR7tZu jafm87afDvDQCPD6OXZ


Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin bought His old house.

cheachea
07-30-2011, 01:01 AM
Crowley is at the top left. The bald guy.



http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/sgt_peppers_large.jpg


http://tastytreble.com/images/magick/crowley.jpg

flo
07-30-2011, 02:36 AM
It already has. I'm a product of it. Much of the 60's and 70's rock was influenced by Aleister Crowley a Satanist.




This is the Beatles throwing up the 666 hand sign

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTz1RshocfoZdd6Gr8wNY2ppBwZR7tZu jafm87afDvDQCPD6OXZ


Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin bought His old house.

lol!

How - aside from Jimmy Page buying his house and some of his manuscripts in his younger days - has Aleister Crowley been an influence on 60s and 70's music?

And intimating the Beatles were Satanists is ludicrous.

cheachea
07-30-2011, 03:52 AM
Definitely.


This is the back of one of the Doors albums. Jim Morrison is leaning on a statue of Crowley.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3519/doors13ph1.jpg



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9664/alestercrowleyuk6.jpg


Ozzy Osbourne had a song called - Mr. Crowley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDprOYJ3CJo

Play The Man
07-30-2011, 04:04 AM
Cheachea, why the obsession with Aleister Crowley? He has followed us from the "Free Mason" thread into the music thread.:laugh:

cheachea
07-30-2011, 04:06 AM
This is a poster of Jimmy Hendrix . He is making the 666 hand sign with his right hand and making the devil (Metal Horns) with his left hand. The Cobras in the back round are called the Naga. It's a seven headed serpent. It reminds me of the seven headed dragon in Revelation 12:3.

Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great Red Dragon, having Seven Heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.


ALSO

Revelation 12:9
9And the great Dragon was cast out, that Old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


http://www.panicposters.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/p/p/pp32439-jimi-hendrix-axis-bold-as-love-poster.jpg

cheachea
07-30-2011, 04:09 AM
Cheachea, why the obsession with Aleister Crowley? He has followed us from the "Free Mason" thread into the music thread.:laugh:


LOL, I know. Once you find out this stuff you don't see things the same way again.

flo
07-30-2011, 04:43 AM
Regardless of your theories, cheachea, this thread is about how music has changed the world.

:)

NateR
07-30-2011, 02:20 PM
Art imitates life. Life imitates art. So, it's more of a give and take relationship. Great art doesn't just drop in out of the sky, it's inspired by something in the real world; but that art in turn inspires people and reshapes the way we perceive the world - for good or ill. Music is just another form of art, so the same rules apply there.

Dethbob
07-30-2011, 03:19 PM
I can certainly attest to the change that music can effect in a person’s life, but I think the effect on the world as a whole, if there is one, is very subtle and difficult to perceive.

Look at the book of Isaiah. This book tied to Old Testament together and laid the foundation for the New, and I think the world would look much different today if that book had not been written. Common Sense, The Communist Manifesto, On the Origin of Species and many other books have had an immediate and lasting effect on the course of history. Much of the modern world was imagined by science fiction writers long ago and inspired the next generation of engineers to figure out how to make it possible.

Movies can also be quite powerful, see the effect on the shark population after Jaws came out, and the fact that global warming was taken seriously by the general public after An Inconvenient Truth.

I may not be looking with the right kind of eyes, but I don’t see an example of music having that kind pull in the world, which I think that is very odd, given the effect music has on me and almost everyone I’ve met.

Miss Foxy
08-01-2011, 03:49 PM
Cheachea, why the obsession with Aleister Crowley? He has followed us from the "Free Mason" thread into the music thread.:laugh:

LOL