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flo
06-20-2011, 03:12 AM
Their explanation? "A portion was edited out". Just why was that? No explanation given, of course. Just the usual half-hearted apology to "anyone that was offended". Here's a network actively working to remove God from mention anyway they can. Pathetic and sickening.

But that's how they chose to kick off coverage today of the US Open. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/nbc-apologizes-for-cutting-under-god-from-pledge-of-allegiance-before-us-open/2011/06/19/AG8MgtbH_blog.html?hpid=z3) How 'bout we "edit" NBC off the airwaves?

Bonnie
06-20-2011, 08:31 AM
I guess if it said "Under Muhammad", they wouldn't have dared to edit it out.

KENTUCKYREDBONE
06-20-2011, 03:11 PM
I don't even watch nbc!

flo
06-20-2011, 06:00 PM
I guess if it said "Under Muhammad", they wouldn't have dared to edit it out.

You're right, they'd never DARE offend the Muslims. But Christianity is fair game and a constant target.

BamaGrits84
06-20-2011, 09:43 PM
NBC = Hand basket

Buzzard
06-21-2011, 01:34 AM
:cool: Good for them.

Play The Man
06-21-2011, 01:45 AM
:cool: Good for them.
So, you support bowdlerizing speech? How enlightened!:rolleyes:

BamaGrits84
06-21-2011, 09:21 PM
:cool: Good for them.

Not to be a B or anything but your comments makes me wish there was a smiley that was burning in hell to post right now.

Gasp - how ungodly of me to say such a thing I know. I'm working on being more like Jesus but I haven't gotten close enough to keep stupid comments like this from pissing me off.

bradwright
06-22-2011, 12:10 AM
i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...
so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.

Spiritwalker
06-22-2011, 12:50 AM
i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...
so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.

Nah.. they claim that they want to maintain a netural view.. look what they did to Veggie Tales... (which I love BTW... with the exception of one episode)

NBC controversy

When the show aired on NBC network television in September 2006, VeggieTales episodes were edited to remove most references to God, at the request of the NBC network's standards and practices department. (The religious references remained intact in the closed-captions accompanying each episode.) Notable was the removal of the program's signature sign-off message: "Remember kids, God made you special and He loves you very much."[2] The Christian conservative watch group Parents Television Council complained about the removal to NBC.[3] NBC replied that the editing conformed to the network's broadcast standards of "not to advocate any one religious point of view." Vischer also expressed discontent with the edits, stating that he was not informed that religious content would be removed from the series, and he would have refused to sign a contract if he had known of this beforehand. Vischer said, "I would have declined partly because I knew a lot of fans would feel like it was a sellout or it was done for money."[4] Still, Vischer added that he understood NBC's wish to remain religiously neutral, and said, "VeggieTales is religious, NBC is not. I want to focus people more on 'Isn't it cool that Bob and Larry are on television.'"[5]

Spiritwalker
06-22-2011, 12:51 AM
:cool: Good for them.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp224/daspiritwalker/mst3k.gif

flo
06-22-2011, 01:43 AM
So, you support bowdlerizing speech? How enlightened!:rolleyes:

:laugh:

:happy0159:

flo
06-22-2011, 01:46 AM
i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...


I do know that, what difference does it make though?

so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.

Brad, I'm thinking you are being ironic here???

Buzzard
06-22-2011, 08:53 PM
So, you support bowdlerizing speech? How enlightened!:rolleyes:

I purposely left an ambiguous reply and am surprised that you are the first to nibble on the bait and make the first assumption.

Did I mean good for NBC for cutting out the words "under god, indivisible" or did I mean good for NBC for apologizing about upsetting viewers? All replies assume the first without any thought that it could mean the latter.

Personally I feel that I am not included it the pledge in it's present form due to the addition of the words under god. I don't and won't pledge to anything that requires me to have a belief in or be subordinate to a god.

Interesting that the pledge was written by a socialist minister, yet didn't include anything about any god in the original form.

Perhaps we could change it again to this.

The New Pledge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=618U-_8o31k)

NateR
06-22-2011, 11:26 PM
I honestly don't know why this would be a surprise to anybody. It's NBC.

NateR
06-22-2011, 11:27 PM
I don't and won't pledge to anything that requires me to have a belief in or be subordinate to a god.

But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.

Buzzard
06-23-2011, 12:05 AM
But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.

I don't know if a god exists. If by chance one does, I highly doubt it is anything like what is portrayed in any of the religions.

The words "under god' themselves don't cause harm, nor do they unite the entire country. Take out "under god" and all are included, as was the original intent. If the author wished "under god" to be in the final draft, it would have been there.

What harm was caused by the omission besides the false outrage?

They are just words, but words that imply that every person who lives in the U.S.A. live in a nation under God. A false implication at that.

NateR
06-23-2011, 12:41 AM
I don't know if a god exists. If by chance one does, I highly doubt it is anything like what is portrayed in any of the religions.

The words "under god' themselves don't cause harm, nor do they unite the entire country. Take out "under god" and all are included, as was the original intent. If the author wished "under god" to be in the final draft, it would have been there.

What harm was caused by the omission besides the false outrage?

They are just words, but words that imply that every person who lives in the U.S.A. live in a nation under God. A false implication at that.

I'm not outraged. I expect nothing less from a network like NBC; but they'll put the phrase back if the public outcry is big enough.

Similar to how Walmart began saying "Happy Holidays" during the Christmas season one year to keep from offending customers. When it turned out they were actually offending more customers, they changed back to "Merry Christmas" the next year. Was it because Walmart found GOD? No, they just didn't want to hurt their sales.

Spiritwalker
06-23-2011, 12:57 AM
But if you truly believed that GOD didn't exist, then what would be the harm in it? If there is no GOD, then it's just words.

But if God does exist.. and he said the pledge... would there be harm?

Tyburn
07-03-2011, 09:42 PM
i know this isn't going to be popular but you guys do realize that "under God"
wasn't in the pledge of allegiance for the first 62 years of its existence...
so maybe NBC was just trying to use the original version.

Yeah...and American Independance didnt actually happen until December 1783...But will that stop your celebration tommorow :huh:

:laugh:

Tyburn
07-03-2011, 09:49 PM
But if God does exist.. and he said the pledge... would there be harm?

The problem is, that some of the people doing this are influenced by beings that KNOW that GOD exists and simply do not wish his name to be spoken.

There is power in words...Afterall...GOD SPOKE Creation into being...The truth is...IF GOD didnt exist, it wouldnt matter if you said his name or not...therefore, why go out of your way to change a text that doesnt matter...UNLESS there is something in it...unless it DOES matter...unless someone wants you to believe he doesnt exist, and is going out of their way to remove him.

I'm not blaming anyone at NBC...I'm telling you that...in effect, NBC is under attack, and those who make decisions are being persuaded (probably unknowingly, and therefore also against their active will.

Im sure your first instinct is to think im making a mountain out of a molehill at best...and am concers at worst...but this happens all the time. Its a constant war, and anyone who is weak in faith, or without faith, can be unknowingly influenced.

CAVEMAN
07-06-2011, 07:22 PM
I purposely left an ambiguous reply and am surprised that you are the first to nibble on the bait and make the first assumption.

Did I mean good for NBC for cutting out the words "under god, indivisible" or did I mean good for NBC for apologizing about upsetting viewers? All replies assume the first without any thought that it could mean the latter.

Personally I feel that I am not included it the pledge in it's present form due to the addition of the words under god. I don't and won't pledge to anything that requires me to have a belief in or be subordinate to a god.

Interesting that the pledge was written by a socialist minister, yet didn't include anything about any god in the original form.
Perhaps we could change it again to this.

The New Pledge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=618U-_8o31k)

Might I add, a minister that was later pressured into leaving the church he was pastoring because of his unbiblical beliefs and theology!