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VCURamFan
04-19-2011, 09:01 PM
From MMAMania.com:


If you call them out, they will come.
Current Strikeforce Welterweight Champion Nick Diaz has been openly campaigning for a boxing match in lieu of a return to mixed martial arts and there are a couple of pugilists more than ready to oblige him.

Former super middleweight world champion Jeff Lacy would put his fist in Diaz's mouth for the right price (http://www.mmamania.com/2011/4/18/2118222/for-the-right-price-boxer-jeff-lacy-ready-to-silence-nick-diaz-with-a) and Sergio Martinez, a former WBC super welterweight champion, is apparently ready to do the same (http://www.mmamania.com/2011/4/15/2113585/report-promoter-gunning-for-nick-diaz-vs-sergio-martinez-boxing-match).
According to a press release today from Don Chagrin, Diaz's boxing promoter, he will actively be seeking a fight for the fall of 2011, saying:
It's the type of match-up that will undoubtedly shake-up both the MMA and boxing world for years to come when Nick Diaz steps into the ring. Nick is the first MMA fighter that I've seen throw punches like a boxer. That's what got my attention when I decided to sign him. Diaz can make the cross-over to boxing.
Where there's smoke, there's fire and there are clearly enough interested parties to make Diaz's boxing aspirations come to fruition.

However, his contract with Strikeforce may not be as clear cut as it's been made out to be and Scott Coker and company have a little something to say about all this:

Coker: Here's the one thing I don't want to get into, I don't want to get into Nick's contract status with us. I know he does want to box, we'll go back and look at the contract and take it from there. But I don't want to go into whether he can or cannot. At some point, Cesar and our group will sit down and have a conversation because obviously there's a lot to talk about.
MMAWeekly: As of today, Diaz's boxing career is not full steam ahead?
Coker: No, not at all. I hope we'll have him back in the cage here in the next three or four months."
Ruh-roh.

Diaz is coming off one of the craziest opening rounds in MMA history, when the scrappy Stockton slugger scored an improbable come-from-behind victory via first round technical knockout over British striker Paul "Semtex" Daley.

Following his Strikeforce (http://www.mmamania.com/2011/4/mma/promotion/strikeforce) win, The Cesar Gracie student told HDNet he "doesn't see much of a future for himself in the sport of MMA" and "he's better than all the guys Strikeforce has."

Apparently, the brass in San Jose don't feel the same and they would like to have him in the cage in a few short months. Perhaps coincidentally, that would coincide with Strikeforce's first planned foray into pay-per-view.

There just may be a battle brewing but it might not ever reach the ring or the cage.

J.B.
04-19-2011, 10:06 PM
A fight with Martinez wont happen IMO...

It shouldn't even be considered for sanctioning

Country Breakfast
04-19-2011, 10:35 PM
Diaz has great striking for MMA, but in boxing, I think any solid journeyman would beat him.(and probably stop him)

Blmfighter
04-19-2011, 11:02 PM
They say that he can hang with Ward when they train together. Not sure what all they mean by that.

Miss Foxy
04-19-2011, 11:17 PM
They say that he can hang with Ward when they train together. Not sure what all they mean by that.

He actually is a very good boxer and is always training he trains with Ward. It's funny how so many doubt him. Boxing is his forte...

J.B.
04-20-2011, 01:08 AM
He actually is a very good boxer and is always training he trains with Ward. It's funny how so many doubt him. Boxing is his forte...

I don't doubt he has some skills. However I believe that a top caliber fighter like Sergio Martinez would destroy Nick Diaz in a boxing match, without question. I also don't like the idea of Nick just walking into the sport and trying to get a fight with a champion when there are so many up and comers who have been paying dues inside the boxing ring that don't get that opportunity. Granted, Nick deserves a ton of recognition for his accomplishments in the sport of mixed martial arts, but when Michael Jordan decided to leave basketball to take up the sport of baseball he went to the minor leagues.

Chris F
04-20-2011, 03:49 AM
A fight with Martinez wont happen IMO...

It shouldn't even be considered for sanctioning

Got to agree on that one. In fact I do not think he can hang with most Golden Gloves people. MMA and Boxing are night and day in a lot of ways.

logrus
04-20-2011, 04:09 AM
A fight with Martinez wont happen IMO...

It shouldn't even be considered for sanctioning

It was fine to put James against Randy, Why not Diaz vs Martzi lol. :laugh:

Problem is you have to fight the right guy, otherwise the cry babies will cry. Ohhh he was too old, ohhh, hes still a young guy in boxing, why not put him against someone more skilled.

JB, considering we need a guy neither great nor washed up, who would be the best suited match in the 160-170 area ? Jermain Taylor ?? :unsure-1:

logrus
04-20-2011, 04:10 AM
Got to agree on that one. In fact I do not think he can hang with most Golden Gloves people. MMA and Boxing are night and day in a lot of ways.

Ohh I dunno, I think on a fighter to fighter basis, or did you forget the Jab clinic GSP gave to Kos?

J.B.
04-20-2011, 04:15 AM
Got to agree on that one. In fact I do not think he can hang with most Golden Gloves people. MMA and Boxing are night and day in a lot of ways.

GG's of today? Probably not, but maybe.

GG's who are now professional dinosaurs? Probably not, but maybe.

A legit pro like Martinez who is one of the top pound for pound boxers in the world? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Don't get me wrong, I give Nick a chance to hang in a fight with just about anybody on toughness alone, but that don't mean I don't think he would end up getting outclassed by somebody with the skills and experience of a Sergio Martinez. That would just be a bludgeoning IMO.

J.B.
04-20-2011, 04:26 AM
It was fine to put James against Randy, Why not Diaz vs Martzi lol. :laugh:

Problem is you have to fight the right guy, otherwise the cry babies will cry. Ohhh he was too old, ohhh, hes still a young guy in boxing, why not put him against someone more skilled.

JB, considering we need a guy neither great nor washed up, who would be the best suited match in the 160-170 area ? Jermain Taylor ?? :unsure-1:

I said the same thing in the other thread about Diaz fighting Lacy.

As a sideshow, I will watch it, but in terms of the sport it is ridiculous, just like Toney vs Couture. At least with Toney vs Couture, we knew that James was delusional and never trains for his fights so it was very likely to end the way it did. With Diaz, you never know, this guy could come out and light up the stage and possibly shake things up. He's a tough guy and he is in top physical shape.

I don't think he NEEDS to fight a big name, he just WANTS a quick payday.

At least when Anderson Silva was lobbying to fight Roy Jones he said it was because boxing was a huge passion of his and he always loved Roy and it would be a dream come true to fight him. Anderson even tries to act like Roy in his MMA fights, and I've been saying that for years. Although, even with Silva saying that, I still think it would be a sideshow if it ever happened and not anything that should amount to Silva getting propelled into title contender status as a pro boxer.

Honestly, I don't know who to say he should fight besides just saying he should start lower on the totem pole. I think Taylor would embarrass Diaz like any other veteran would. At least Lacy isn't such a HUGE name that it would make Diaz look like a title contender if he were to win, but it's still enough to propel him into fights he probably wouldn't really deserve in terms of accomplishments in boxing. So either way, some up and comers get side-stepped simply because of Diaz's success in MMA. It's not the worst thing that will have happened in either of the sports, but still lame nonetheless.

Chris F
04-20-2011, 09:24 AM
GG's of today? Probably not, but maybe.

GG's who are now professional dinosaurs? Probably not, but maybe.

A legit pro like Martinez who is one of the top pound for pound boxers in the world? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

Don't get me wrong, I give Nick a chance to hang in a fight with just about anybody on toughness alone, but that don't mean I don't think he would end up getting outclassed by somebody with the skills and experience of a Sergio Martinez. That would just be a bludgeoning IMO.

A true well trained pure boxer will beat him IMO. Anything is possible sure but do not see any pro losing to him or and good Amateur for that matter.

J.B.
04-20-2011, 09:58 AM
A true well trained pure boxer will beat him IMO. Anything is possible sure but do not see any pro losing to him or and good Amateur for that matter.

I totally agree, but I guess a part of me wants to give Nick the benefit of the doubt to stick in there and make it a fight based on toughness alone.

rockdawg21
04-20-2011, 09:10 PM
Hope he starts slow and works his way up. Boxing is far different than MMA. Martinez would dispatch of him easily.

Chris F
04-22-2011, 06:03 AM
I totally agree, but I guess a part of me wants to give Nick the benefit of the doubt to stick in there and make it a fight based on toughness alone.

heart and toughness wins close fights but better technique and experience in a discipline will typically alwyas win out in Boxing. If nothing else they can point punch him to death. :)