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rockdawg21
02-21-2011, 11:36 PM
This is insane. Nonito Donaire beat a guy who isn't even a future hall of famer in rd 2 the other night and he gets put at #3? These guys need to lay off the crack. The guy has a very bright future, but who has he really beaten?

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings
Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 52-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 1 | Last Week: 1 | Weeks On List: 377
Titles: WBO

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas)
Record: 41-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 2 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 75

Nonito Donaire
Country: USA (San Leandro, Calif.)
Record: 26-1-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 95

Sergio Martinez
Country: Argentina
Record: 45-2-2 (24 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 43
Titles: WBC, The Ring

Juan Manuel Marquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 52-5-1 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 206
Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Country: Thailand
Record: 78-3-1 (42 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 43
Titles: WBC, The Ring

Wladimir Klitschko
Country: Ukraine
Record: 55-3-0 (49 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 27
Titles: IBF, WBO, The Ring

Timothy Bradley
Country: USA (Palm Springs, Calif.)
Record: 27-0-0 (11 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 23
Titles: WBO

Juan Manuel Lopez
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 29-0-0 (26 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 9 | Last Week: 10 | Weeks On List: 14
Titles: WBO

Giovani Segura
Country: USA
Record: 26-1-1 (22 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 1
Titles: WBO

J.B.
02-22-2011, 08:53 PM
Donaire is legit, and he's been on everybody's radar for a long time. His last 9 fights have been against stiff competition and he has disposed of them all handily just as he has been doing to all his competition since 2001.

No argument with him being ranked in the top 5, or even being ranked number 3 at this point.

JavierDLC
02-22-2011, 09:55 PM
Donaire is legit, and he's been on everybody's radar for a long time. His last 9 fights have been against stiff competition and he has disposed of them all handily just as he has been doing to all his competition since 2001.

No argument with him being ranked in the top 5, or even being ranked number 3 at this point.

Agreed but I would put Martinez and Marquez ahead of him.

rockdawg21
02-22-2011, 11:42 PM
I think JuanMa Lopez will dispatch of him. The fight is being discussed a lot. Would be a pretty big event for the smaller guys. Biggest really since Pac/Barerra/Morales/Marquez were all there.

J.B.
02-23-2011, 02:45 AM
I think JuanMa Lopez will dispatch of him.

Not if he catches one like Ferando Montiel just did :laugh:

That was a sick shot.

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/montiel-ktfo.gif

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 04:21 AM
Not if he catches one like Ferando Montiel just did :laugh:

That was a sick shot.

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/montiel-ktfo.gif
I can't believe the ref let it continue after that. The leg shaking should have been enough of a trigger.

J.B.
02-23-2011, 05:25 AM
I can't believe the ref let it continue after that. The leg shaking should have been enough of a trigger.

I don't have a problem with it.

He gave him a chance to continue because he made it up, but he stopped it immediately when Doniare just unloaded on him quickly with no real look of intelligent defense. I'll admit, there would have been no complaints had he called it right there on the spot, but he gave him a chance, and didn't let it get too out of hand.

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 05:33 AM
I don't have a problem with it.

He gave him a chance to continue because he made it up, but he stopped it immediately when Doniare just unloaded on him quickly with no real look of intelligent defense. I'll admit, there would have been no complaints had he called it right there on the spot, but he gave him a chance, and didn't let it get too out of hand.
Yeah, but the leg shaking he experienced is evidence of a seizure. Kudos to him for getting up, but it was a bad decision by the ref IMO.

J.B.
02-23-2011, 06:20 AM
Yeah, but the leg shaking he experienced is evidence of a seizure. Kudos to him for getting up, but it was a bad decision by the ref IMO.

A seizure?

My legs shake like that all the time after sex. :laugh:

Bonnie
02-23-2011, 07:06 AM
A seizure?

My legs shake like that all the time after sex. :laugh:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I guess I went one post too far in reading this thread. :rotfl:

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 07:24 AM
A seizure?

My legs shake like that all the time after sex. :laugh:
:sign0011:

VCURamFan
02-23-2011, 01:50 PM
Not if he catches one like Ferando Montiel just did :laugh:

That was a sick shot.

http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/montiel-ktfo.gif
Sorry, that didn't look like a seizure. That looked like a toddler throwing a tantrum. :laugh:

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 06:02 PM
Sorry, that didn't look like a seizure. That looked like a toddler throwing a tantrum. :laugh:
LOL, it kinda did!

VCURamFan
02-23-2011, 06:17 PM
LOL, it kinda did!
Seriously, the first time I saw it I was like "Wow, he's out! O, not anymore, now he's just pissed that he got clipped." :laugh:

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 06:25 PM
Seriously, the first time I saw it I was like "Wow, he's out! O, not anymore, now he's just pissed that he got clipped." :laugh:
LOL, I see how first glance could make one see that!

JavierDLC
02-23-2011, 06:38 PM
I don't have a problem with it.

He gave him a chance to continue because he made it up, but he stopped it immediately when Doniare just unloaded on him quickly with no real look of intelligent defense. I'll admit, there would have been no complaints had he called it right there on the spot, but he gave him a chance, and didn't let it get too out of hand.

Besides he was the Champ so they give them just a little more benefit of a doubt right?

**Unless you are Frankie Edgar defending your belt from Gray Maynard**

rockdawg21
02-23-2011, 06:49 PM
Besides he was the Champ so they give them just a little more benefit of a doubt right?

**Unless you are Frankie Edgar defending your belt from Gray Maynard**
:laugh:

J.B.
02-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Besides he was the Champ so they give them just a little more benefit of a doubt right?


That's one of the unwritten rules :laugh:

rockdawg21
02-28-2011, 12:53 AM
I knew this would happen.

http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=661633&publicationSubCategoryId=69
Ref in Donaire bout under fire
By Abac Cordero (The Philippine Star) Updated February 28, 2011 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Russel Mora, the third man on the ring when Nonito Donaire knocked out Fernando Montiel last week in Las Vegas, is in hot water.

The World Boxing Council, through its president, Jose Sulaiman, wants the veteran referee reprimanded by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Sulaiman said Mora, with a credible record as a boxing referee and judge since 1997, should have stopped the fight the moment Montiel went down.

Montiel, a three-division world champion who’s never been knocked out before, took a solid left hook to the temple in the 55-second mark of the second round.

He fell flat on his back, arms stretched, legs twitching as if he was having a seizure. His eyes dazed, he tried to beat the referee’s count.

Montiel was on his knee when he fell once more to the canvas before managing to get up on his feet. But it was pretty obvious his mind was somewhere else.

Mora, a Golden Gloves champion in New Mexico in 1980, and who has officiated 243 fights, should have known better to have the fight stopped right then and there.

He motioned to Montiel to walk toward him, and the 31-year-old Mexican didn’t. Montiel couldn’t even raise his gloves, and it was the referee who grabbed them, to wipe them off his shirt.

Then Mora let the fight continue. Smelling blood, Donaire went for the kill, landed a left hook and missed with a right. Mora jumped in to stop the fight.

Experts believe it was a little too late. But they all should be glad that Mora is now up and about, nothing serious, nothing to worry about.

“It was a fateful decision, a criminal act,” Sulaiman told boxingscene.com, referring to Mora’s decision to let the fight continue.

“Montiel was in a poor state and after telling him (to) walk to it and he does not, and after asking him to raise his arms and he does not, he still allows him to continue.

“We are going to send a letter to the commission to put him (referee) in training before placing him in another championship fight. We will object to this referee whenever we can,” Sulaiman added.

Sulaiman said Montiel was exposed to great danger when the fight was allowed to continue after the knockdown.

Mora was back in the ring yesterday, officiating Jessie Magdaleno first-round knockout of Jamie Gutierrez in a scheduled four-rounder at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.

Mora has officiated five fights involving Filipinos, including Michael Farenas’ knockout of Arturo Valenzuela in 2007, Ernel Fontanilla’s draw with Manuel Sarabia in 2008, Ana Julaton’s draw with Johanna Mendez in 2008, Gerry Peñalosa’s loss to Eric Morel last year and Richie Mepranum’s loss to Julio Cesar Miranda, also last year.

Donaire knew it was over the moment he landed the left hook that gave him the WBC and WBO bantamweight titles.

“I hit him with the left hook and I looked down, and I saw that his legs were twitching, and I knew that the fight was over,” he said.

But Mora, the veteran referee, had other things in mind.