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Tyburn
11-28-2010, 08:31 PM
The Russian Federation would like to know why...none of the US Journalism industries seem to be reporting anything on it...and hear was I believing that it was Unconstitutional for the Government of The United States of America to put a black out on independant American Journalism.

Freedom of speech anyone :huh:

Meanwhile whilst the United States is depicted as Crushing Freedom...the Russian President has called for a Reform of his Government which he claims is causing stagnation in the rulling elite, because opposition voices are not being permitted enough....is it a media ploy....almost certainly!! but it makes Russia look good and the United States look very bad...if I was Hillary Clinton right now, I'd be considering if Sarah Palin running for President was actually such a bad thing after all....

The Russian Public Chamber is awaiting an explanation for the arrest of two Russia Today journalists in the United States on Saturday, a spokesman said on Wednesday.

U.S. nationals Kaelyn Forde and Jon Conway, who are employees of the Moscow-based Russia Today (RT) TV channel, were arrested on Saturday after covering a protest near Fort Benning army base in Columbus, Georgia "despite complying with the police demand not to come close to the gates of the base," the network said.

"On behalf of the Public Chamber Commission, I can express only regret. I think that the U.S. side should provide an explanation for its actions toward the journalists," spokesman Pavel Gusev said, adding that the Chamber was issuing a statement demanding an explanation for the arrest.

The crew, which was filming an annual protest by human rights activists against a U.S. Defense Department training program for Latin American police, was released after posting $1,300 bail.

Mikhail Margelov, head of the international affairs committee of the Russian upper house of parliament said the U.S. police had disproportionately used force during the arrest.

"The two reporters were handcuffed, dressed in prison overalls, forced to languish in a cell with criminals, and released on bail only after 32 hours," he said.

Mikhail Nenashev, a lawmaker from the ruling United Russia party, urged government agencies on Tuesday to report on how Russian journalists abroad are protected.

Gusev said the incident was proof that the situation for journalists in "free and democratic countries like the United States" was far from ideal.

"There have been few cases like this in Russia, because, in my view, foreign journalists here are given fairly comfortable working conditions," Gusev said.

The situation for domestic journalists is, however, quite different. Russia has one of the poorest journalist safety records in the world. With at least 35 journalists murdered between 2000 and 2009, the International Press Institute places Russia fifth in its ranking of countries most dangerous for journalists, after Iraq, the Philippines, Colombia and Mexico.

A number of organizations and individuals from Croatia, Serbia and Slovenia signed an open letter to Russia's leadership and police on Wednesday, protesting against recent attacks on journalists and urging them to speed up investigations and find the perpetrators.

Oh...there is video evidence ive seen on the news...but cant find the example yet on youtube...

NateR
11-29-2010, 02:53 AM
This is the first I've heard of it, but you should cite your source to help determine the reliability of the story.

Tyburn
11-29-2010, 09:37 AM
This is the first I've heard of it, but you should cite your source to help determine the reliability of the story.

I think that you will find the story if you type the title into google, thats how I found it.... :laugh:

.... after seeing it reported on the TV :mellow:

Before you suspect anything...those two journalists were US Nationals...so even though they worked for a Russian Media...they look, and speak English, and being American Citizens are covered as a birthright by Constitutional principles.

Neezar
11-29-2010, 11:47 AM
The Russian Public Chamber is awaiting an explanation for the arrest of two Russia Today journalists in the United States on Saturday, a spokesman said on Wednesday.

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"There have been few cases like this in Russia, because, in my view, foreign journalists here are given fairly comfortable working conditions," Gusev said. (:rolleyes:)

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The situation for domestic journalists is, however, quite different. Russia has one of the poorest journalist safety records in the world. With at least 35 journalists murdered between 2000 and 2009, the International Press Institute places Russia fifth in its ranking of countries most dangerous for journalists, after Iraq, the Philippines, Colombia and Mexico.

A number of organizations and individuals from Croatia, Serbia and Slovenia signed an open letter to Russia's leadership and police on Wednesday, protesting against recent attacks on journalists and urging them to speed up investigations and find the perpetrators.



Russia wants us to explain. Them first. :laugh:

Neezar
11-29-2010, 11:48 AM
This is terrible if there isn't more to the story. I feel certain that there is more to the story though.

Tyburn
11-29-2010, 11:56 AM
Russia wants us to explain. Them first. :laugh:

:laugh: Good Point....but they wouldnt dare arrest anyone from a Major American Press...they wouldnt dare...Because in a vice versa situation...the US wouldnt be waiting for an explaination :laugh:

This is kinda a publicity stunt used by Russia...because the press arrested were NOT Russian Nationals...so in all fairness, the US probably doesnt owe them an explaination as it was Americans working for a russian Media outlet

thats not the same as the US arresting Journalists who are Russian Nationals...Their Soverignty has not been comprimised...and the US is well within its rights to say that if they have a problem they are free to withdraw their media outlet from US soil at any time in protest :laugh::laugh:

Tyburn
11-29-2010, 12:02 PM
This is terrible if there isn't more to the story. I feel certain that there is more to the story though.

Well...I dont think anyone knows WHY they have been arrested...I think thats worse then the act. IF The US fears anyone has broken their laws, they have a right to arrest...but those charges should be publically declaired...I think thats the issue

...and if it was a pure mistake...they should have just said on suspision of terrorism, because that covers a multitude of sins, and would satisfy the press...its because they havent said anything...when they do that they leave themselves open for another country to try and upstage them...its petty...but its politics....an Administration with a more experienced leader would understand that...Obama cant use the press...thats a HUGE weakness in his Administration. He can handle them...as we saw with the mass hysteria surrounding his ellection...but he cant USE the press.

I suppose he will blame Hillary...and she actually can use the press, so I'm not sure why she hasnt jumped on this already.

unless there is something MASSIVE about these arrests...but I figure if there had been reasons given right away, the Russians wouldnt have been able to upstage, the Presidency and administration wouldnt have looked constitutionally bad...and noone would have cared.

rockdawg21
11-30-2010, 06:52 PM
State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus members for sure.

Tyburn
11-30-2010, 08:15 PM
State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus members for sure.

:huh: sorry...what :huh:

rockdawg21
11-30-2010, 10:07 PM
:huh: sorry...what :huh:
Formerly known as the KGB.

Tyburn
11-30-2010, 10:32 PM
Formerly known as the KGB.

you think the Journalists were KGB :huh: The Journalists were American Citizens...I think not...one was a woman...and...not that kinda woman by the way she was like "im sorry, please dont hurt me" :laugh: yeah...thats not what the Russian Secret Service would approve of...if they were KGB...Russia would be trying to forget them after such an embarissing display...and sending little cables to Obama, pleading with him never to let knowledge of their arrest ever come out.....of course it would....on wikileaks or something :laugh: and that would give Hillary the perfect opportunity to stand up...and go red with embarissment again:rolleyes:

Neezar
12-01-2010, 05:17 AM
I suppose he will blame Hillary...and she actually can use the press, so I'm not sure why she hasnt jumped on this already.



:laugh: They will find a way to blame Bush Jr.

rockdawg21
12-01-2010, 05:21 AM
you think the Journalists were KGB :huh: The Journalists were American Citizens...I think not...one was a woman...and...not that kinda woman by the way she was like "im sorry, please dont hurt me" :laugh: yeah...thats not what the Russian Secret Service would approve of...if they were KGB...Russia would be trying to forget them after such an embarissing display...and sending little cables to Obama, pleading with him never to let knowledge of their arrest ever come out.....of course it would....on wikileaks or something :laugh: and that would give Hillary the perfect opportunity to stand up...and go red with embarissment again:rolleyes:
You take my statements, rather, jokes, way too seriously Dave.