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TheConcretekid
03-02-2009, 05:25 PM
MMAMania (http://mmamania.com/2009/02/28/josh-koscheck-vs-chris-wilson-at-ufc-98-in-may/)broke it first sometime last week.

I don't think the story here is one style vs another, or his camp vs the other, I think the real interesting thing here is that this is Koscheck's 4th fight in 7 months. Most fighters have half as many fights in that time. I'm worried (well, not worried) that he's going to burn out.

Hughes_GOAT
03-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Koscheck thinks he's Jeremy Horn

ufcfan2
03-02-2009, 06:03 PM
MMAMania (http://mmamania.com/2009/02/28/josh-koscheck-vs-chris-wilson-at-ufc-98-in-may/)broke it first sometime last week.

I don't think the story here is one style vs another, or his camp vs the other, I think the real interesting thing here is that this is Koscheck's 4th fight in 7 months. Most fighters have half as many fights in that time. I'm worried (well, not worried) that he's going to burn out.
Its possible he could burn out or hes gonna fight himself outta of the UFC. I mean how much can u improve ur skills if ur constantly fighting and not training new or improving existing ones?

Hughes_GOAT
03-02-2009, 06:34 PM
well he's lost to the number 1, 2 WW so i don't think he'll get booted for that. however, if he loses again to a no name like the last guy he fought, then yeah, he may get booted.

TheConcretekid
03-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Its possible he could burn out or hes gonna fight himself outta of the UFC. I mean how much can u improve ur skills if ur constantly fighting and not training new or improving existing ones?

Yeah thats a very good point, a lot of times you hear people saying "For this fight you're going to see a whole new (insert name of fighter)" sometimes thats hype (BJ), but sometimes a big loss, or an injury (Mir), change in weight (Diego) or camp can really transform a fighter. But training 6 weeks for a for a fight, 4 or 5 fights in a row can't be conducive to an improved skill set.

Maybe he doesn't want to disappear into training for 4 months, during which people may be thinking, "Hey whatever happened to Kos... oh yeah he got KOd by a no name and faded away into obscurity."

Maybe if he has another highlight reel KO over Wilson, he can take a little break, have a full camp and then comeback and fight a top 10 or 5 ranked WW. Though Fitch and Swick are also at AKA, and GSP is the champ, Sheilds is at Strikeforce, Sanchez dropped to 55... after that theres only Hughes or maybe an Alves rematch and I guess we'll keep an eye on how Carlos Condit is doing.

Looks like its going to be a long and tough road back to the top of the WW division

Jonlion
03-02-2009, 07:00 PM
Josh is safe, he has made interesting fights, the UFC likes him and he has been a gamer.

The UFC treats well fighters who help them by coming in at late notice. They also reward people who are loyal and put on a good fight.

Step forward Chris Lytle! He is had been great for the UFC and whilst better fighters have come and gone, they always reward him because he delievers what he promises, a good fight and no nonsense.

Josh isnt going to be burnt out, he is just proving that fighters can fight more times in the year if pressedd and that he is a gamer.

Good on him and i wish him the best.

Koscheck for WW champion!

Llamafighter
03-02-2009, 07:04 PM
Josh is safe, he has made interesting fights, the UFC likes him and he has been a gamer.

The UFC treats well fighters who help them by coming in at late notice. They also reward people who are loyal and put on a good fight.

Step forward Chris Lytle! He is had been great for the UFC and whilst better fighters have come and gone, they always reward him because he delievers what he promises, a good fight and no nonsense.

Josh isnt going to be burnt out, he is just proving that fighters can fight more times in the year if pressedd and that he is a gamer.

Good on him and i wish him the best.

Koscheck for WW champion!
Plus they just announced that he's on the new game! I wonder how many fighters have been cut from the UFC that were originally on the game.

TheConcretekid
03-02-2009, 07:33 PM
Plus they just announced that he's on the new game! I wonder how many fighters have been cut from the UFC that were originally on the game.

The UFC made two lists last year:
1.) Starting from the top, the best of the best, who is going to be in the game.
2.) Starting at the bottom, like many businesses in the US and the rest of the world, who cant we afford to cut.
I dont think there was much overlap.

Also, that its a great sig!

County Mike
03-02-2009, 09:34 PM
I think it's cool he's fighting so often. I'm not a fan of his, but most of his fights are interesting. He's making more money than some of the top end fighters just because he fights more often. Better for his sponsors too.

rockdawg21
03-04-2009, 02:14 AM
I like watching Kos fight, he's exciting. I agree that he should stick to wrestling, it's kinda foolish for him to go for the KO all the time. GNP is still awesome. I mean, if I were a former college wrestler who won 4th place, 3rd place, 1st place, and 2nd place respectively, there's NO WAY I wouldn't ride that gravy train to victory. Stick to wrestling and he could go back on top.

atomdanger
03-06-2009, 02:24 AM
KOS wants to fight a lot, I don't understand why, esp when he isn't performing.
4 in 7 months, is a lot....


Chris Wilson is NOT an easy fight, he hasn't done great in the UFC thus far,
but his first fight was Fitch, not easy, and he took Fitch to decision and IMO made Fitch look bad.

jignpig
03-06-2009, 06:14 PM
Koscheck thinks he's Jeremy Horn
NO ONE IS JEREMY HORNE! ONLY JEREMY HORN IS JEREMY HORNE!.....i have no idea where i was going with this.....well...kos sux!!!! thats where i was going, and is he ever going to figure out that his hair REALLY SUCKS!!

Jeff Crow
03-06-2009, 06:19 PM
:ninja:

rearnakedchoke
03-06-2009, 09:26 PM
He's like 32, which isn't old, but he only has a window .. why sit around when you can fight, make money while you are in your prime .... IMO guys like Fedor are being wasted by fighting so few times ... these fights are 3 rounds, so it isn't that bad .... fight, train, fight train

County Mike
03-06-2009, 11:30 PM
I agree. They get paid to fight. Fight as often as they'll let you.

atomdanger
03-07-2009, 03:20 AM
He's like 32, which isn't old, but he only has a window .. why sit around when you can fight, make money while you are in your prime .... IMO guys like Fedor are being wasted by fighting so few times ... these fights are 3 rounds, so it isn't that bad .... fight, train, fight train


I think at a certain point longevity comes into play.
Fighters make a lot of money off things other than fighting, sponsors, gyms, seminars, etc..

The longer you're relevant, the better.
KOS fights often, but has only had a 5 year career,
Fedor is going 9 years and look at his record, I could see Fedor having a 15 year career.

So while I can see the arguement for fighting as often as possible,
I can see why fighting less would have benefits also.