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billwilliams70
10-14-2010, 06:26 PM
Don't mean to step on your toes VCURamFan, by starting this thread, but I really wanted to comment on how much of an idiot I think Josh Koscheck is.

He's like a little kid and I can't wait to see GSP do his talking in the Octagon and shut him up.

Later.

VCURamFan
10-14-2010, 07:13 PM
Don't mean to step on your toes VCURamFan, by starting this thread, but I really wanted to comment on how much of an idiot I think Josh Koscheck is.

He's like a little kid and I can't wait to see GSP do his talking in the Octagon and shut him up.

Later.
Hahaha, don't sweat it. I was too lazy last night to expend the energy necessary to type and write at the same time. :laugh:

Yeah, Kos is coming off as extremely immature & childish. His actions are those of a stereotypical bully: when he loses, he sulks & whines & complains, when he wins he does everything he possibly can to rub it in. You have to wonder what his self-confidence is like.

billwilliams70
10-14-2010, 07:54 PM
You also see it when he does his little camera interviews....the way he giggles like he's planning a practical joke at his high school prom.

Now, Phan wasn't entirely impressive in his victory. I thought that Paige would get the victory (before the fight started) but the injury to his hand really seemed to take a toll on him......that or Phan's cardio was that much better.

Later.

VCURamFan
10-14-2010, 08:10 PM
You also see it when he does his little camera interviews....the way he giggles like he's planning a practical joke at his high school prom.

Now, Phan wasn't entirely impressive in his victory. I thought that Paige would get the victory (before the fight started) but the injury to his hand really seemed to take a toll on him......that or Phan's cardio was that much better.

Later.
Paige lost his 3 biggest weapons (jab, right hook & left hook) because he broke his right (i.e. lead) hand & his left foot. Even with his 3 best weapons gone, he still made it a tough fight for Nam. If Spencer hadn't gotten busted up that way, he would have demolished Nam in the 2nd. Needless to say, I wasn't too impressed with Phan.

Also, long distance/time endurance running as an effective method of improving one's fight endurance is a long-dispelled myth. To have endurance for a 5min fight, you need to work sprints, not road-work. Not saying that Phan's running isn't important as part of his mental game (hitting the wall & pushing through it, etc.), but it's not a sign that his gas tank is amazing.

Spiritwalker
10-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Well.. Koz.. just can't grow up it seems...

I had some hopes for him when he fought Yoshida. He seemed to be a lot more respectful...

And when he called GSP "a french guy" you know he isn't that "bright"

billwilliams70
10-14-2010, 09:04 PM
Paige lost his 3 biggest weapons (jab, right hook & left hook) because he broke his right (i.e. lead) hand & his left foot. Even with his 3 best weapons gone, he still made it a tough fight for Nam. If Spencer hadn't gotten busted up that way, he would have demolished Nam in the 2nd. Needless to say, I wasn't too impressed with Phan.

Also, long distance/time endurance running as an effective method of improving one's fight endurance is a long-dispelled myth. To have endurance for a 5min fight, you need to work sprints, not road-work. Not saying that Phan's running isn't important as part of his mental game (hitting the wall & pushing through it, etc.), but it's not a sign that his gas tank is amazing.
Had no intentions of giving that impression.....it just seemed that it could have been better than Paige's. But, like you said, Paige's three biggest weapons were rendered useless.

Later.

VCURamFan
10-14-2010, 09:54 PM
Had no intentions of giving that impression.....it just seemed that it could have been better than Paige's. But, like you said, Paige's three biggest weapons were rendered useless.

Later.
Haha, sorry. Didn't mean to throw a tantrum on you. That's just an old myth that annoys me for some reason.

County Mike
10-15-2010, 12:26 PM
Distance running is good for cutting weight and overall conditioning but Ben's right. You have to work sprints and intervals for fight-time conditioning.

I thought this was one of the better fights, at least in the stand-up realm. Both guys went for it with a lot of kicks and punch combos. It's a shame Spencer broke his hand and foot but I give both guys credit for a good fight.

Kos - still an ass.

Llamafighter
10-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Jean Charles Skabrowsky is a badass. I didn't know a lot about him but watched a few of his fights afterwards and he reminds me a lot of my teacher.
I don't agree with his drinking and stuff but man the fact that he did all that and still schooled those kids is impressive. that's experience.

Spiritwalker
10-15-2010, 01:16 PM
Jean Charles Skabrowsky is a badass. I didn't know a lot about him but watched a few of his fights afterwards and he reminds me a lot of my teacher.
I don't agree with his drinking and stuff but man the fact that he did all that and still schooled those kids is impressive. that's experience.

Skabrowsky is great.. but the way he was jamming on their knees when he would push them down.. I don't know if that's the best training that can be done.

I would have liked to have seen him "coaching for Ty" rather than just beating up on a bunch of young fighters.

Vizion
10-15-2010, 01:22 PM
I think I'm rooting for GSP to win in December now...:angry:

VCURamFan
10-15-2010, 02:16 PM
I think I'm rooting for GSP to win in December now...:angry:
Only just now? I started rooting for him the minute it was annoucned Fraggle Chia Rock was gonna be his opponent.

Llamafighter
10-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Skabrowsky is great.. but the way he was jamming on their knees when he would push them down.. I don't know if that's the best training that can be done.

I would have liked to have seen him "coaching for Ty" rather than just beating up on a bunch of young fighters.

That was obviously a lot of editing over several days. his shorts kept changing colors. I guarantee there was a lot more instruction. he has a school in Paris where he trains young fighters.

Spiritwalker
10-15-2010, 03:29 PM
That was obviously a lot of editing over several days. his shorts kept changing colors. I guarantee there was a lot more instruction. he has a school in Paris where he trains young fighters.

Agreed.. I would just liked to have seen it.

EDIT...

I would have also liked to have seen him B-Slap Koz when he was talking about his tats.

Llamafighter
10-15-2010, 05:21 PM
Agreed.. I would just liked to have seen it.

EDIT...

I would have also liked to have seen him B-Slap Koz when he was talking about his tats.

Yeah, me too! to have a guy with his pedigree in Muay Thai and not show his training technique was a shame.

Good thing he's a good sport. Pretty funny the look on GSP's teams faces.

Buc Nasty
10-15-2010, 09:18 PM
Skabrowsky looked like a whiny bitch. If he's so tough why is he not fighting for UFC or Strikeforce? I'd never even heard of him before that episode and we probably never will again.

Llamafighter
10-15-2010, 09:27 PM
Skabrowsky looked like a whiny bitch. If he's so tough why is he not fighting for UFC or Strikeforce? I'd never even heard of him before that episode and we probably never will again.

He fights strictly Muay Thai and he's really good at it.

Buc Nasty
10-15-2010, 09:41 PM
He's got skills but GSP basically told them not to fight back and the fact that he came out and beat on people was just stupid. If he had just been brought along as a sparring partner and they were told to give as good as they got he would've ended up in hospital.

JavierDLC
10-17-2010, 10:11 AM
:blink: ??????? :rolleyes:

bj44
10-21-2010, 07:36 PM
He's got skills but GSP basically told them not to fight back and the fact that he came out and beat on people was just stupid. If he had just been brought along as a sparring partner and they were told to give as good as they got he would've ended up in hospital.

seriously ? that guy is one of the best european thai guys in the world. Theres nothing those guys would be able to do to him on the feet... The reason hes not in the ufc is the reason badr hardi isnt either... Hes a kick boxer not mixed martial artist

Llamafighter
10-21-2010, 08:16 PM
He's got skills but GSP basically told them not to fight back and the fact that he came out and beat on people was just stupid. If he had just been brought along as a sparring partner and they were told to give as good as they got he would've ended up in hospital.



If they would have opened up on him, he would have KO'd them all. what you were seeing was about 50% from Jean Charles.