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Miss Foxy
09-03-2010, 09:03 PM
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kat-von-d-jesse-james-go-public-with-relationship/46636?nc

Miss Foxy
09-03-2010, 09:04 PM
As pretty as she is this girl makes me sick!!! She could NEVER be a lady like Sandra was and her and Jesse James belong together "basura!!":angry:

J.B.
09-03-2010, 10:54 PM
:laugh:

TexasRN
09-04-2010, 12:00 PM
I'd actually like to see Sandra move on and find someone who will never cheat on her and will give her the family she wants. Poor thing. I can't imagine what she went through having her marriage go down like that in such a public way.


~Amy

VCURamFan
09-04-2010, 05:17 PM
I'd actually like to see Sandra move on and find someone who will never cheat on her and will give her the family she wants. Poor thing. I can't imagine what she went through having her marriage go down like that in such a public way.


~Amy

Well Amy, I usually don't go for the super hot, amazingly successful, ridiculously rich type, but if that's what you want, then I guess I can sacrifice my personal preferences. :wink:

logrus
09-05-2010, 02:20 AM
Men are a bunch of idiots and woman, well they are worse......

Chuck
09-05-2010, 02:31 AM
Sandra > Kat

adamt
09-05-2010, 02:44 AM
what did she expect?


it's her own fault.

tell the truth- was anyone surprised when jesse cheated? if you answer no, then obviously that's what you would expect from him, and the point sandra started dating him, it was her own fault because that is the type of guy jesse is, if she wanted a family, she should pick a family man, and jesse ain't it, i thought she was stupid for ever hanging with him, and i was right, and she is just reaping what she sowed,

i hate it for her, i always liked her, but still, jesse ain't no saint

Bonnie
09-05-2010, 04:47 AM
Men are a bunch of idiots and woman, well they are worse......

Okay, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt on the first part :Whistle: but you lose all credibility with me on the second part for obvious reasons. :laugh:

J.B.
09-05-2010, 06:52 PM
what did she expect?


it's her own fault.

tell the truth- was anyone surprised when jesse cheated? if you answer no, then obviously that's what you would expect from him, and the point sandra started dating him, it was her own fault because that is the type of guy jesse is, if she wanted a family, she should pick a family man, and jesse ain't it, i thought she was stupid for ever hanging with him, and i was right, and she is just reaping what she sowed,

i hate it for her, i always liked her, but still, jesse ain't no saint

Personally, I think the guy is an idiot.

However, it's a bit harsh to come down on her over what happened. Unless you, or any of the other posters happen to know Jesse James on a personal level, I don't know how being a cheater is "what you would expect from him". Not everybody who has tattoos and rides motorcycles is a bad person, so be careful before being so quick to pass judgment.

Chuck
09-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Personally, I think the guy is an idiot.

However, it's a bit harsh to come down on her over what happened. Unless you, or any of the other posters happen to know Jesse James on a personal level, I don't know how being a cheater is "what you would expect from him". Not everybody who has tattoos and rides motorcycles is a bad person, so be careful before being so quick to pass judgment.

Coming from a guy who rides a motorcycle and has a tattoo I would have to say AMEN!

adamt
09-05-2010, 08:25 PM
Sandra > Kat

Coming from a guy who rides a motorcycle and has a tattoo I would have to say AMEN!

Personally, I think the guy is an idiot.

However, it's a bit harsh to come down on her over what happened. Unless you, or any of the other posters happen to know Jesse James on a personal level, I don't know how being a cheater is "what you would expect from him". Not everybody who has tattoos and rides motorcycles is a bad person, so be careful before being so quick to pass judgment.


this whole thread is about passing judgement!!!!!:frantics:

do any of us know kat on a personal level? aren't we all passing judgement on her without knowing her?

and people always refer to passing judgement when it is a negative judgement, but the same people that look down on kat are giving sandra a good nod, and the benefit of the doubt, when in fact none of us know sandra anynore than we know jesse

J.B.
09-05-2010, 08:43 PM
this whole thread is about passing judgement!!!!!:frantics:

do any of us know kat on a personal level? aren't we all passing judgement on her without knowing her?

and people always refer to passing judgement when it is a negative judgement, but the same people that look down on kat are giving sandra a good nod, and the benefit of the doubt, when in fact none of us know sandra anynore than we know jesse

You are right, this thread has been about passing judgment, and it does go both ways.

However, all I am saying is that it's a bit heavy handed for somebody who doesn't know the guy personally to say "thats what you would expect from him". Then, on top of that, to say that it's Sandra Bullock's own fault for associating with him is a bit ridiculous. People fall in love, and sometimes people put on a front and hide who they really are. Based on the facts that we know, it's safe to assume that Sandra didn't sign up to be with a guy who dresses up like Hitler while sleeping with mistresses, because she dumped his ass real quick.

I don't know who the hell Kat Von D is, so I didn't comment on her. From my own standpoint, I merely said I think Jesse James is an idiot.

adamt
09-05-2010, 10:38 PM
You are right, this thread has been about passing judgment, and it does go both ways.

However, all I am saying is that it's a bit heavy handed for somebody who doesn't know the guy personally to say "thats what you would expect from him". Then, on top of that, to say that it's Sandra Bullock's own fault for associating with him is a bit ridiculous. People fall in love, and sometimes people put on a front and hide who they really are. Based on the facts that we know, it's safe to assume that Sandra didn't sign up to be with a guy who dresses up like Hitler while sleeping with mistresses, because she dumped his ass real quick.

I don't know who the hell Kat Von D is, so I didn't comment on her. From my own standpoint, I merely said I think Jesse James is an idiot.



maybe it's not a matter of his character but a matter of how we, as in everybody, stereotype people. and we do

now, the fact that alot of the time we stereotype them right is another argument

J.B.
09-05-2010, 11:37 PM
maybe it's not a matter of his character but a matter of how we, as in everybody, stereotype people. and we do

now, the fact that alot of the time we stereotype them right is another argument

I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?

Neezar
09-06-2010, 02:24 AM
I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.

adamt
09-06-2010, 02:33 AM
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.

+1

I think it's exactly that, however it really just depends on the stereotype. Some stereotypes exist because they are true amongst the majority of a group of people and some are blown out of proportion to use in a comedic or offensive manner.

I would agree that AFTER the fact it's obvious that James isn't much of a family man, but unless we know the man personally, how could we make such a determination before all this happened?


i don't say this argumentatively as i see we are trying to agree here, but sandra knew what she was getting into

if you like honey, don't get mad when you get stung whilst raiding a hive, sandra knew the chances she was taking with jesse, if she didn't want to risk this happening she shouldn't have started dating him,

i think what we are really disagreeing on is what the betting lines were that it was going to happen, i say they were pretty high, and when you play the odds you shouldn't get pitied when you lose your money,

if sandra really wanted a family, she should have and dare i say would have found a family man

J.B.
09-06-2010, 02:50 AM
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have never watched his (James') show. I was not surprised by this because of what I had seen of James, not because of his tats and motorcycle.

Well, you would be guessing correctly, I don't watch shows like his. However, I do know of his shows and what he does. I'm not questioning people's opinions of him based on what you see on a television show or weather or not they "found it surprising". I am simply stating that unless you know the guy personally and know that he was doing this stuff, how can you say "it's what you would expect from him" before the fact? Unless there is some sort of stereotype he is fitting into, there is no other reason to say that. I'm pretty sure his TV shows aren't showing him with mistresses, or am I wrong? :laugh:

Of course, once it's in the press that he actually did it, we all know to expect it from him in the future, but I don't remember there being a big scandal about Jesse James cheating on his wives or girlfriends while dressed up like Nazi before Sandra Bullock. If I am wrong, then I stand corrected, but I don't know, and frankly...I don't care. :laugh:

The real reason I commented at all was more or less directed at why I think it's wrong to come down on Sandra Bullock so harshly. Even if she DID think he was like this, it's not out of the question to think that maybe she was in love with him and thought he would change. The point is she has already had enough happen, why dump on her some more?

J.B.
09-06-2010, 03:13 AM
+1

i don't say this argumentatively as i see we are trying to agree here, but sandra knew what she was getting into

if you like honey, don't get mad when you get stung whilst raiding a hive, sandra knew the chances she was taking with jesse, if she didn't want to risk this happening she shouldn't have started dating him,

i think what we are really disagreeing on is what the betting lines were that it was going to happen, i say they were pretty high, and when you play the odds you shouldn't get pitied when you lose your money,

if sandra really wanted a family, she should have and dare i say would have found a family man

I don't doubt one bit that the guy has always been a douche, but I just wouldn't say that's what I expected of him. I don't know the guy and I don't remember there being any sort of scandals before this with him, so it came as a surprise to me. We are not disagreeing on the betting lines, I am simply saying that unless there is some real evidence in the public forum that showed it beforehand, you wouldn't really know that unless you were personally attached to the situation. It would be pure speculation, and probably based off stereotype.

You could be right about everything you are saying in regards to Sandra knowing what she was getting into as far as his character issues, but I don't know that. They were together 5 years and who knows what they went through in that time. The point I am making is that she has had enough happen, why dump on her any more? We should be scolding Tiger Woods and Jesse James, not Sandra Bullock. :laugh:

Neezar
09-06-2010, 03:23 AM
I don't doubt one bit that the guy has always been a douche, but I just wouldn't say that's what I expected of him. I don't know the guy and I don't remember there being any sort of scandals before this with him, so it came as a surprise to me. We are not disagreeing on the betting lines, I am simply saying that unless there is some real evidence in the public forum that showed it beforehand, you wouldn't really know that unless you were personally attached to the situation. It would be pure speculation, and probably based off stereotype.

You could be right about everything you are saying in regards to Sandra knowing what she was getting into as far as his character issues, but I don't know that. They were together 5 years and who knows what they went through in that time. The point I am making is that she has had enough happen, why dump on her any more? We should be scolding Tiger Woods and Jesse James, not Sandra Bullock. :laugh:

If you watched West Coast Choppers, his reality show then you had a pretty good idea that it was probable. He does have a history of cheating. I really, really had high hopes that he would change for Sandra. However, his attitude then was he was all about self and no one dared even question him. He did what he wanted, when he wanted.

J.B.
09-06-2010, 03:26 AM
If you watched West Coast Choppers, his reality show then you had a pretty good idea that it was probable. He does have a history of cheating. I really, really had high hopes that he would change for Sandra. However, his attitude then was he was all about self and no one dared even question him. He did what he wanted, when he wanted.

I will admit. I've never seen the show, and I don't doubt what you are saying. As I said, my real point in my original comment was more directed at not crapping on Sandra Bullock.

I was just reading more about the guy, apparently he claims to be a descendant of the REAL Jesse James, but he can't prove it...:laugh:

What a tool.

Neezar
09-06-2010, 03:33 AM
I will admit. I've never seen the show, and I don't doubt what you are saying. As I said, my real point in my original comment was more directed at not crapping on Sandra Bullock.

I was just reading more about the guy, apparently he claims to be a descendant of the REAL Jesse James, but he can't prove it...:laugh:

What a tool.

Well if Tiger remarries and cheats again, I doubt I will have much sympathy for the new wife. I feel bad for Sandra but I do feel like she had to know she was taking a huge chance. :unsure: OR maybe she never watched the show. :unsure-1: Or read magazines. :huh: Or talked to his friends. :mellow:

:laugh:

J.B.
09-06-2010, 04:13 AM
Well if Tiger remarries and cheats again, I doubt I will have much sympathy for the new wife. I feel bad for Sandra but I do feel like she had to know she was taking a huge chance. :unsure: OR maybe she never watched the show. :unsure-1: Or read magazines. :huh: Or talked to his friends. :mellow:

:laugh:

:laugh:

Tiger could buy like 50 Jesse James...so if Tiger's next wife get duped I'm sure she will find a way to get paid.

Bonnie
09-06-2010, 04:22 AM
Well if Tiger remarries and cheats again, I doubt I will have much sympathy for the new wife. I feel bad for Sandra but I do feel like she had to know she was taking a huge chance. :unsure: OR maybe she never watched the show. :unsure-1: Or read magazines. :huh: Or talked to his friends. :mellow:

:laugh:

I think she probably "saw" something in him that she thought was worthwhile for her to take a chance on. She was probably a novelty for him--so very different than the women he usually went with. I'm sure there were probably signs there of who he was, but for whatever reason(s) she overlooked them.

I'm reminded of a Maya Angelou quote: When people show you who they are, believe them, the first time.

Kat Von D says they've been friends for years so hopefully she's not kidding herself about him.

flo
09-06-2010, 05:15 AM
Okay, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt on the first part :Whistle: but you lose all credibility with me on the second part for obvious reasons. :laugh:

Same here.

flo
09-06-2010, 05:19 AM
Well Amy, I usually don't go for the super hot, amazingly successful, ridiculously rich type, but if that's what you want, then I guess I can sacrifice my personal preferences. :wink:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Ben, I think you win the MHF champ belt for funniest posts, hands down. :)

Primadawn
09-07-2010, 12:40 AM
I think she probably "saw" something in him that she thought was worthwhile for her to take a chance on. She was probably a novelty for him--so very different than the women he usually went with. I'm sure there were probably signs there of who he was, but for whatever reason(s) she overlooked them.

I'm reminded of a Maya Angelou quote: When people show you who they are, believe them, the first time.

Kat Von D says they've been friends for years so hopefully she's not kidding herself about him.

Ahhh! My new life quote! If only I had learned this at around age 18~!

Bonnie
09-07-2010, 02:31 AM
Ahhh! My new life quote! If only I had learned this at around age 18~!

I know. When I look back, I can see so clearly what was right in front of my eyes. :wink: Why didn't I believe it....the first time! :laugh:

Damn hindsight! :angry:

:laugh:

que
09-07-2010, 05:45 PM
that dude is a freakin pimp. cheats on his wife and another chick calls him "the one" before the trial is even over

Miss Foxy
09-07-2010, 05:49 PM
what did she expect?


it's her own fault.

tell the truth- was anyone surprised when jesse cheated? if you answer no, then obviously that's what you would expect from him, and the point sandra started dating him, it was her own fault because that is the type of guy jesse is, if she wanted a family, she should pick a family man, and jesse ain't it, i thought she was stupid for ever hanging with him, and i was right, and she is just reaping what she sowed,

i hate it for her, i always liked her, but still, jesse ain't no saint

Sorry it's not her fault. No one deserves to be cheated on.

adamt
09-07-2010, 09:55 PM
Sorry it's not her fault. No one deserves to be cheated on.

well..... some people deserve to be cheated on, but only cheaters themselves really, not sandra,

of course, i didn't remotely say she deserved it, merely it was her own fault


if you get in a car with a drunk driver and you wreck, it is not deserved but it is your fault

Miss Foxy
09-07-2010, 11:00 PM
well..... some people deserve to be cheated on, but only cheaters themselves really, not sandra,

of course, i didn't remotely say she deserved it, merely it was her own fault


if you get in a car with a drunk driver and you wreck, it is not deserved but it is your fault

But we all weren't there when they were dating. I watched West coast Choppers and really didn't see anything that blew my mind to call him a cheater so she knew a different Jesse than what we knew.
I see your point in a way, but if we all judge a book by it's cover we would not have most of our friendships and relationships. Sometimes it's not what someone appears to be to me, but who they show me they are. Unfortunately for Sandra this didn't work in her favor..:sad:

adamt
09-08-2010, 03:09 AM
But we all weren't there when they were dating. I watched West coast Choppers and really didn't see anything that blew my mind to call him a cheater so she knew a different Jesse than what we knew.
I see your point in a way, but if we all judge a book by it's cover we would not have most of our friendships and relationships. Sometimes it's not what someone appears to be to me, but who they show me they are. Unfortunately for Sandra this didn't work in her favor..:sad:

i think that is a good note to agree on, i def see where you're coming from as well, and like i said we can agree on the bold

Neezar
09-08-2010, 03:38 AM
But we all weren't there when they were dating. I watched West coast Choppers and really didn't see anything that blew my mind to call him a cheater so she knew a different Jesse than what we knew.
I see your point in a way, but if we all judge a book by it's cover we would not have most of our friendships and relationships. Sometimes it's not what someone appears to be to me, but who they show me they are. Unfortunately for Sandra this didn't work in her favor..:sad:

Really? I mispoke. West Coast Choppers is the name of his business. I couldn't locate a show called West Coast Choppers. Which Jesse reality show was it that you watched?

Miss Foxy
09-08-2010, 03:38 PM
Really? I mispoke. West Coast Choppers is the name of his business. I couldn't locate a show called West Coast Choppers. Which Jesse reality show was it that you watched?

Monster Garage.. Obviously I made a mistake with the name. He first had a documentary about his business then the show.. Either way I watched both so my BAD with the name being incorrect.

BamaGrits84
09-08-2010, 05:44 PM
what did this woman do to get famous? i heard soemthing about a reality show. most be that miami ink based on the way she looks.

he's a dog.

my friend from high school was in a time to kill and he says she is just such a kind, down to earth person. he was about 12 when that movie was shot and his brother 10. i'd say based on the interactions they had with her you could easliy say she has always loved kids. i hope she finds a good man to be a good father to her new baby. i bet she treated jesse good. it's a darn shame he did her that way. but regardless of the amount of trash swirling around her, she could never lose an ounce of class.

Miss Foxy
09-08-2010, 06:20 PM
what did this woman do to get famous? i heard soemthing about a reality show. most be that miami ink based on the way she looks.

he's a dog.

my friend from high school was in a time to kill and he says she is just such a kind, down to earth person. he was about 12 when that movie was shot and his brother 10. i'd say based on the interactions they had with her you could easliy say she has always loved kids. i hope she finds a good man to be a good father to her new baby. i bet she treated jesse good. it's a darn shame he did her that way. but regardless of the amount of trash swirling around her, she could never lose an ounce of class.

Kat whore D is known for tattooing...People here in LA treat her like a goddess.

BamaGrits84
09-08-2010, 06:39 PM
So that would be LA ink? She looks nasty to me. That's wayyyy too many tats for a woman. Or man for that matter.

Neezar
09-08-2010, 06:43 PM
Monster Garage.. Obviously I made a mistake with the name. He first had a documentary about his business then the show.. Either way I watched both so my BAD with the name being incorrect.

They were shows created by Discovery Channel called Motorcycle Mania. And I can't imagine how anyone who watched them would think he was NOT a cheater.

But we all weren't there when they were dating. I watched West coast Choppers and really didn't see anything that blew my mind to call him a cheater so she knew a different Jesse than what we knew.
I see your point in a way, but if we all judge a book by it's cover we would not have most of our friendships and relationships. Sometimes it's not what someone appears to be to me, but who they show me they are. Unfortunately for Sandra this didn't work in her favor..:sad:

What do you think the deal with Amanda was all about? And he frankly stated that he does exactly what he wants and that she knew that about him before hand so he didn't really care. He said anyone that knows him, knows that about him. And then all the drama with Janine (sp?). Why do you think she physically beat the hell out of him? :laugh:

He would go off for days, sometimes weeks and do his thing. No one was to question him or bitch about it either. That is just how he is (per himself).

However, just like someone on here said that maybe he had changed. I have always took Sandra Bullock to be a smart girl. I think she totally believed in/had faith in him or she wouldn't have been with him. But I still say if you had watched any of those shows then you can't have been too surprised.

Miss Foxy
09-08-2010, 06:51 PM
They were shows created by Discovery Channel called Motorcycle Mania. And I can't imagine how anyone who watched them would think he was NOT a cheater.



What do you think the deal with Amanda was all about? And he frankly stated that he does exactly what he wants and that she knew that about him before hand so he didn't really care. He said anyone that knows him, knows that about him. And then all the drama with Janine (sp?). Why do you think she physically beat the hell out of him? :laugh:

He would go off for days, sometimes weeks and do his thing. No one was to question him or bitch about it either. That is just how he is (per himself).

However, just like someone on here said that maybe he had changed. I have always took Sandra Bullock to be a smart girl. I think she totally believed in/had faith in him or she wouldn't have been with him. But I still say if you had watched any of those shows then you can't have been too surprised.

Well your opinion is yours mine is mine. Ask his PR person. I ain't sticking up for the guy. I just don't think you can base someones character off a tv show.

matthughesfan21
09-08-2010, 07:11 PM
what did this woman do to get famous? i heard soemthing about a reality show. most be that miami ink based on the way she looks.
.
Started on miami ink...Now she is the star of LA ink

billwilliams70
09-08-2010, 07:56 PM
Started on miami ink...Now she is the star of LA ink
Although she really seems to be blowing that with the show's faithful.

Later.

Neezar
09-08-2010, 08:37 PM
Well your opinion is yours mine is mine. Ask his PR person. I ain't sticking up for the guy. I just don't think you can base someones character off a tv show.

Then how can you call Kat a whore? Do you know her personally?

Bonnie
09-08-2010, 08:40 PM
Although she really seems to be blowing that with the show's faithful.

Later.

I happened to catch it last week and saw where the dark haired (older) guy had left (apparently several months/episodes ago :unsure-1:) and wanted to come back. I thought that guy was her father, but I guess he wasn't. :unsure: Tells you how few of the shows I've watched. :laugh:

BamaGrits84
09-08-2010, 08:45 PM
I don't know if she's a whore or not. But I do know she's only kidding herself if she thinks she's something sepcial that Jesse won't cheat on her. You know the saying. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Quite frankly I hope she is a whore and cheats on him and causes him a swarm of public humiliation. Saddest part if his poor children. Wonder if his daughter draws on her Barbies?