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Play The Man
08-26-2010, 08:28 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/fort-hood-suspect-nidal-hasan-find-bank/story?id=11291442&page=1


Accused Fort Hood Shooter Nidal Hasan Can't Find a Bank Willing to Cash His Checks
Hasan's Lawyer Says His Client Is Being Discriminated Against

By EMILY FRIEDMAN
Aug. 2, 2010

The attorney for the man charged with last year's deadly shooting rampage at Texas' Fort Hood Army post says his client, who is still on the military's payroll, can't find a bank willing to cash his checks.
Attorney says Hasan is lucid and won't plead guilty to charges of killing 13.


While Maj. Nidal Hasan sits in Bell County Jail in Belton, Texas, waiting for his next hearing in October, his lawyer, John Galligan, has been shopping around to banks trying to find a financial institution willing to take on his client as a customer.

"Various banks have refused, without any specificity, to permit Hasan to open a checking account where he can have his military pay deposited," Galligan told ABC News.

Hasan faces 13 counts of murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder stemming from the Nov. 5 shooting that fatally wounded 13 soldiers. If convicted, Hasan could face the death penalty.

Hasan still is receiving payment from the U.S. military because, according to a spokesman, he is still a service member .

"He is a major in the United States Army and will therefore be paid until he is no longer a major," said Lt. Col. Chris Garver. "So yes, he's still receiving payment."

According to Army records, Hasan stands to receive a check for about $6,000 every month. He is also eligible for what the Army calls an "incentive pay" that could be as much as $15,000 annually. Galligan declined to comment on how much Hasan is worth.

Hasan's lawyer said that his client was notified about a month ago that his longtime bank, Bank of America, was no longer interested in holding his money.

"They gave us advance notice, yes, but it represents the discriminatory attitude and atmosphere that's pervasive in central Texas and in the Fort Hood community," said Galligan.

Diane Wagner, a representative for Bank of America, said of Galligan's claims, "We do not comment on customer relationships for privacy reasons."

Galligan said that among the banks into which he has tried to deposit Hasan's checks, the one that declined him and upset him the most was the Fort Hood National Bank.

"The bank's motto is 'serving those who serve,' but apparently that's not true in Hasan's case," said Galligan.

Messages left at Fort Hood National Bank for comment were not immediately returned. A welcome message on the bank's website said the institute has been serving the military community for more than 45 years.

Galligan said he's offered to have Hasan's checks deposited into a trust and also has provided banks with proof of his power of attorney but has still had no luck. The discrimination Hasan is facing, says Galligan, is a foreshadowing of what he'll likely face at trial.

Does anyone else find it deeply disturbing that this murderer is still drawing a paycheck?:huh: I can't believe that the military doesn't have some legal way to stop this travesty. I'm sure there are widows of the Fort Hood Muslim Terror Attack who aren't getting as much per month as this murderer is getting.:angry:

rockdawg21
08-26-2010, 08:45 PM
I hate BOA. After the arbitrarily took my credit card and increased it from 9.99% to 14.99% to 19.99% to 24.99% for being late ONCE (because they had a f'ing due date on a SUNDAY and I sent auto-payment every week on MONDAY) several years go AND we BAILED THEM OUT and they were still doing this type of BS to their customers, I'll NEVER deal with them again.

MattHughesRocks
08-26-2010, 09:04 PM
I think it's that whole "innocent until proven guilty" bull****. They need to hurry up and get this guy to trial.



Does anyone else find it deeply disturbing that this murderer is still drawing a paycheck?:huh: I can't believe that the military doesn't have some legal way to stop this travesty. I'm sure there are widows of the Fort Hood Muslim Terror Attack who aren't getting as much per month as this murderer is getting.:angry:

flo
08-26-2010, 10:01 PM
I find it more than disturbing, PTM. Is he being tried by military tribunal or in civil court? I'm not clear about that. But I'd want the military to give him a dishonorable discharge or court martial - whichever is quickest. At least then, he wouldn't be drawing a salary from the Army.

And as far as the charges of discrimination against the murderer? Boo-frickin'-hoo.

J.B.
08-26-2010, 10:15 PM
Somebody should have made sure he was dead.

Miss Foxy
08-26-2010, 10:18 PM
Why is he not in a military brig? :blink:

TexasRN
08-26-2010, 10:21 PM
So when you are in the military as active duty, you sometimes have the option of living on post depending on which base you are stationed at. This means you are furnished with a house or apartment and you don't pay rent or utilities. However, if you live on post you do not get a cola (cost of living) allowance. Basically, you don't pay rent but you get paid less. Depending on the city you live in, you can either come out ahead or break even with the cost and it really has to do with the size of your family and how much rent houses are in that area. Soooo, my point with this information is that if this yahoo is on the military payroll and the govt is providing him with housing and meals and utilities at no cost to him, he should NOT get any cola allowance at all. That $6000 a month is sure to have his cola in there. Not cool.


~Amy

Miss Foxy
08-26-2010, 10:25 PM
So when you are in the military as active duty, you sometimes have the option of living on post depending on which base you are stationed at. This means you are furnished with a house or apartment and you don't pay rent or utilities. However, if you live on post you do not get a cola (cost of living) allowance. Basically, you don't pay rent but you get paid less. Depending on the city you live in, you can either come out ahead or break even with the cost and it really has to do with the size of your family and how much rent houses are in that area. Soooo, my point with this information is that if this yahoo is on the military payroll and the govt is providing him with housing and meals and utilities at no cost to him, he should NOT get any cola allowance at all. That $6000 a month is sure to have his cola in there. Not cool.


~Amy
Yes since he was off base he would have his (BAH) Basic Allowance Housing. This is ridiculous and I know if he would be having his case in the military court they would pull back all that money. A lot of times even for charges like DUI with a servicemember they can take a portion of your pay.

TexasRN
08-26-2010, 10:28 PM
Yes since he was off base he would have his (BAH) Basic Allowance Housing. This is ridiculous and I know if he would be having his case in the military court they would pull back all that money. A lot of times even for charges like DUI with a servicemember they can take a portion of your pay.


I'm showing my age with my terms in the my post. (cola and living on post....) :unsure-1:



~Amy

Miss Foxy
08-26-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm showing my age with my terms in the my post. (cola and living on post....) :unsure-1:



~Amy

No girl your Army talking. I am probably the one that's being foreign speaking Navy/Marine jargon!! :laugh:

TexasRN
08-26-2010, 10:35 PM
No girl your Army talking. I am probably the one that's being foreign speaking Navy/Marine jargon!! :laugh:

Yep, Army brat here. I spent most of my life on military bases. Grew up Army and married Navy. :rolleyes:

I've been living civilian life since 2000 and am now divorced. It feels very weird not to get new orders every couple of years. I still move a lot. :laugh: I now work part time for a company that does different medical clinics for service members to make their lives at the time they are being deployed a little easier and less hectic. I just can't get away from it!

~Amy

Play The Man
08-26-2010, 10:38 PM
I find it more than disturbing, PTM. Is he being tried by military tribunal or in civil court? I'm not clear about that. But I'd want the military to give him a dishonorable discharge or court martial - whichever is quickest. At least then, he wouldn't be drawing a salary from the Army.

And as far as the charges of discrimination against the murderer? Boo-frickin'-hoo.

I don't have any knowledge in this area but there must be some way they can put a stop to this. It is coming up on one year in November. There must be some administrative procedure, separate from the criminal trial, by which his pay can be frozen or terminated.

The lawyer seems like a real lowlife. Trying to paint the murderer as a victim. Did you notice this little doozy in the story?

Galligan said he's offered to have Hasan's checks deposited into a trust and also has provided banks with proof of his power of attorney but has still had no luck.

I suspect the lowlife lawyer is trying to shield the murderer's assets from possible civil lawsuits from the widows. I don't know how most lawyers can sleep at night . . . or look at themselves in the mirror.:angry:

TexasRN
08-26-2010, 10:41 PM
I don't have any knowledge in this area but there must be some way they can put a stop to this. It is coming up on one year in November. There must be some administrative procedure, separate from the criminal trial, by which his pay can be frozen or terminated.

The lawyer seems like a real lowlife. Trying to paint the murderer as a victim. Did you notice this little doozy in the story?



I suspect the lowlife lawyer is trying to shield the murderer's assets from possible civil lawsuits from the widows. I don't know how most lawyers can sleep at night . . . or look at themselves in the mirror.:angry:



The least they could have done is have him dishonorably discharged already. That doesn't require a civil trial at all. I've seen others kicked out much faster for much less.


~Amy

Miss Foxy
08-26-2010, 10:42 PM
I know exactly how it feels.. Civilian life is so different!! My dad is Navy, brother Navy, and ex-spouse Navy!! lol. My kids are totally missing the commissary, MWR programs, and other military life!!

Miss Foxy
08-26-2010, 10:43 PM
I don't have any knowledge in this area but there must be some way they can put a stop to this. It is coming up on one year in November. There must be some administrative procedure, separate from the criminal trial, by which his pay can be frozen or terminated.

The lawyer seems like a real lowlife. Trying to paint the murderer as a victim. Did you notice this little doozy in the story?



I suspect the lowlife lawyer is trying to shield the murderer's assets from possible civil lawsuits from the widows. I don't know how most lawyers can sleep at night . . . or look at themselves in the mirror.:angry:

Right.. The lawyer sounds like scum. There is no justification for what this monster/traitor did!!

TexasRN
08-26-2010, 10:51 PM
I know exactly how it feels.. Civilian life is so different!! My dad is Navy, brother Navy, and ex-spouse Navy!! lol. My kids are totally missing the commissary, MWR programs, and other military life!!


I miss the commissary! And I miss the motor pool access I had on base. I could use their lift any time I wanted and bring my own tools so I could change my own oil and do minor maintenance on my vehicles for free. If I changed the oil I payed a minor oil disposal fee but that was it. The MWR programs were great. *sigh* oh well. Civilian life is different but doesn't suck, so I've gotten used to it.


~Amy

flo
08-27-2010, 03:27 AM
I don't have any knowledge in this area but there must be some way they can put a stop to this. It is coming up on one year in November. There must be some administrative procedure, separate from the criminal trial, by which his pay can be frozen or terminated.

The lawyer seems like a real lowlife. Trying to paint the murderer as a victim. Did you notice this little doozy in the story?

Galligan said he's offered to have Hasan's checks deposited into a trust and also has provided banks with proof of his power of attorney but has still had no luck.

I suspect the lowlife lawyer is trying to shield the murderer's assets from possible civil lawsuits from the widows. I don't know how most lawyers can sleep at night . . . or look at themselves in the mirror.:angry:

No, I missed that little tidbit, PTM. Regarding the "trust", perhaps they can direct it to the Cordoba House funding.

flo
08-27-2010, 03:32 AM
Yep, Army brat here. I spent most of my life on military bases. Grew up Army and married Navy. :rolleyes:
~Amy

*gasp* A mixed marriage! :)

I'm an Army brat too, loved it. When we'd do our spring cleaning and put together a bunch of items we no longer used or wanted, we'd donate it to the Salvation Air Force.

:laugh:

REMY
08-27-2010, 04:31 AM
Foxy / RN you both are right in a way :

COLA (cost of living allowance) is given to service members who live in areas where goods are expensive, whether you live on base or off base its like $400 extra a month

BAH is only given to service members who live off base to pay for rent.

Im activw duty and In 2006 I transferred to Philadelphia and received both bah and Cole because I lived off base and it was expensive city. Though I transferred to cape may NJ last year and the military said goods aren't expensive so I get BAH but No cola

Back on topic when he goes to court martial they can dock his pay and also force him to pay some back as well.

TexasRN
08-27-2010, 11:32 AM
Foxy / RN you both are right in a way :

COLA (cost of living allowance) is given to service members who live in areas where goods are expensive, whether you live on base or off base its like $400 extra a month

BAH is only given to service members who live off base to pay for rent.

Im activw duty and In 2006 I transferred to Philadelphia and received both bah and Cole because I lived off base and it was expensive city. Though I transferred to cape may NJ last year and the military said goods aren't expensive so I get BAH but No cola

Back on topic when he goes to court martial they can dock his pay and also force him to pay some back as well.


I've been out for 10 years. I'm just glad I remember that stuff at all! :laugh:



~Amy

County Mike
08-27-2010, 12:26 PM
So if somebody helps this guy hang himself, will he still be on the payroll?

Just asking.