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TheConcretekid
02-26-2009, 08:51 PM
Miletich fighter Rory Markham had a pretty bad weight cut to get to 170, bad enough to cause organ damage.

Sam Sheridan says (http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=1956):

“After the knock-out, he got x-rayed, and the Doc said "Can I X-ray your chest, it looks weird"?" and Rory said sure, and they said "You have a collapsed lung." He had to stay in London 2 days for observation, and I think he's got 120 day medical suspension.

“The only thing he said to me was "That was the worst weight cut I've ever done...I know what hell is like."


Fightlinker (http://www.fightlinker.com/rory-markham-dumber-than-previously-thought.mma) Reports:

I’m sure there’s going to be people out there saying that Markham is a real WARRIOR for getting into the cage in such a condition, but I just think he ****ed up his cut and that’s nothing to be impressed with. It only takes one dude cutting too hard and suffering a serious injury in the cage to set everything back ten years … if it doesn’t kill the sport outright.


And Zak Woods (http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/2/26/772805/rory-markham-fought-with-a) is skeptical:

It is important to remember when these fighters describe an injury to take it with a grain of salt. They are not medical professionals nor are they describing the severity of the injury they are classifying. It's akin to saying, I have a broken toe, when the break is a small chip off the end, versus explaining, that I have a fractured third metatarsal which will require screws in order to set the bone to heal. It is in the specifics and description of an injury, not some medical term that is simply thrown out there, that we discover what type of damage has actually been done to a fighter.

atomdanger
02-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Do we have official word from a Dr?
I have seen people who collapse part of a lung and they can sometimes barely walk.

Crisco
02-26-2009, 09:23 PM
I don't think it had a lot of bearing on the fight tbh

I hope Rory gets well soon... I hope his health insurance works in England.. That is going to be a huge bill if it doesn't.

Crisco
02-26-2009, 09:23 PM
I don't think it had a lot of bearing on the fight tbh

I hope Rory gets well soon... I hope his health insurance works in England.. That is going to be a huge bill if it doesn't.

TheConcretekid
02-26-2009, 10:04 PM
I hope Rory gets well soon... I hope his health insurance works in England.. That is going to be a huge bill if it doesn't.

Not to get all political or anything, but the UK, just like the rest of the modern world, has national health care... only in America do you have to pay an arm and a leg if anything happens to you arm or leg (pun intended, but failed)

Tyburn
02-26-2009, 10:09 PM
I don't think it had a lot of bearing on the fight tbh

I hope Rory gets well soon... I hope his health insurance works in England.. That is going to be a huge bill if it doesn't.
:laugh: He doesnt need health insurance...in England Helath Care is considered a Basic Human Right...its taken as seriously as You and your firearms.

In England we have The National Health Service...so long as its not a dental issue he should be fine. Assuming he's entered the country in a leagal manner of course :laugh: He'd almost certainly get his opporation free of charge, should he need one, plus whatever money for scans and xrays etc. He does that useing MY taxes hahahaha...but I dont mind.

We cant leave him dying on the Greenwich Peninsular because he cant bloody afford a treatment and cant breath until he gets one!!! Course he might have to share a ward with other patients, and the whole process of consultation might be slower...but I assure you he'll be alright...you think I have health insurance???? The only time I ever pay that is when I went to the United States hahahahahahaha

I cant even afford Contents Insurance. :'(

Champ2be
02-27-2009, 02:30 AM
There is no way he fought with a collapsed lung. If it was in fact collapse he would have had a pneumothorax that would have eventional turned into a tension-pneumothorax which would have killed him if he didnt get a chest tube to relieve the pressure. He may have had a small hole in his lung, but collapsed? No.

Boomer
02-27-2009, 05:15 AM
I really liked Rory in the IFL, but he did seem to get hurt alot. i think he over trains.

MattHughesRocks
02-27-2009, 05:25 AM
So does GSP :unsure-1:


I really liked Rory in the IFL, but he did seem to get hurt alot. i think he over trains.

Boomer
02-27-2009, 06:05 AM
So does GSP :unsure-1:

So does GSP what? Train hard or get hurt a lot?? I honestly dont follow him to closely. I know more about Rory then I do GSP.

Except I do know that he's Greasy ... :ninja: I shook his hand once. It was dripping with Vaseline ... swear :mellow:

Bonnie
02-27-2009, 06:24 AM
There is no way he fought with a collapsed lung. If it was in fact collapse he would have had a pneumothorax that would have eventional turned into a tension-pneumothorax which would have killed him if he didnt get a chest tube to relieve the pressure. He may have had a small hole in his lung, but collapsed? No.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe too. Both my lungs were, uhmm, compressed(?) (not collapsed) at the bottom and it was very difficult to breathe/talk. So how can someone with a collapsed lung fight? :unsure-1:

Tyburn
02-27-2009, 01:04 PM
So does GSP what? Train hard or get hurt a lot?? I honestly dont follow him to closely. I know more about Rory then I do GSP.

Except I do know that he's Greasy ... :ninja: I shook his hand once. It was dripping with Vaseline ... swear :mellow:
:laugh: yeah, me too Boomer :mellow:

rearnakedchoke
02-27-2009, 01:50 PM
Not to get all political or anything, but the UK, just like the rest of the modern world, has national health care... only in America do you have to pay an arm and a leg if anything happens to you arm or leg (pun intended, but failed)

huh?? is he not american though? i don't think he would get free health care in the UK unless he was a resident ... i know here in canada we have "free" health care, but if you are not a resident or don't have a health card, you have to pay ... UK must be really nice then if this is the case

Max
02-27-2009, 02:30 PM
huh?? is he not american though? i don't think he would get free health care in the UK unless he was a resident ... i know here in canada we have "free" health care, but if you are not a resident or don't have a health card, you have to pay ... UK must be really nice then if this is the case

http://www.propertyshowrooms.com/england/guide/healthcare-in-england.asp

The National Health Service (NHS) was set up in 1948 to provide free healthcare for all the residents of the UK, including foreign immigrants.

GroundNPound
02-27-2009, 02:35 PM
Lucky for him the fight was over quick so his cardio and his heart weren't tested.

That sucks though.

TheConcretekid
02-27-2009, 04:09 PM
huh?? is he not american though? i don't think he would get free health care in the UK unless he was a resident ... i know here in canada we have "free" health care, but if you are not a resident or don't have a health card, you have to pay ... UK must be really nice then if this is the case

I guess that would be a question for Tyburn, or any other Brit.

But I know that before some Canadians (I actually have only heard this of older residents who come to Florida for a little golf and R&R, but it may be more common) come to America they take out an insurance policy so if they get injured in America they won't have to pay our (completely and utterly outragous) medical bills.

Tyburn
02-27-2009, 05:09 PM
http://www.propertyshowrooms.com/england/guide/healthcare-in-england.asp

The National Health Service (NHS) was set up in 1948 to provide free healthcare for all the residents of the UK, including foreign immigrants.
Told ya :wink:

Champ2be
02-27-2009, 06:58 PM
Lucky for him the fight was over quick so his cardio and his heart weren't tested.

That sucks though.

If his lung was collasped he would have been out of breath half way to the cage.

timmyja
02-28-2009, 06:33 AM
I do not train fighting... unlike some "keyboard warriors" that seem to have 500-1000 posts here since this forum was reopened and seem to have WAY more posts on other forums... but... old boy got ktfo... there was no collapsed lung... and you beople say BJ makes excuses... sheesh:blink:

warriorlion
02-28-2009, 11:57 AM
I don't think it had a lot of bearing on the fight tbh

I hope Rory gets well soon... I hope his health insurance works in England.. That is going to be a huge bill if it doesn't.

actually our health service works differently and for that kind of emergency the likelihood is that I as a tax payer will foot that bill

cheers rory

Max
03-01-2009, 04:22 AM
Told ya :wink:
Markham is not a resident though so he will not get free health care

Tyburn
03-01-2009, 10:16 AM
Markham is not a resident though so he will not get free health care
do you think they'd ask for his passport in hospiatal? trust me if he turned up at A&E in a hospital like Saint Thomas or something, I'm certain they would treat him :)

Max
03-02-2009, 06:52 AM
do you think they'd ask for his passport in hospiatal? trust me if he turned up at A&E in a hospital like Saint Thomas or something, I'm certain they would treat him :)
if he just turned up passed out on a stretcher Im sure they would treat him (just like if someone shows up at a hospital in the US on a stretcher they will treat them). If he walked in they might ask him for some form of ID and charge him for his visit.

Tyburn
03-02-2009, 09:40 AM
If he walked in they might ask him for some form of ID and charge him for his visit.
I doubt it :laugh: Not sure you understand the concept of universal health care, no strings attached :blink:

Hughes_GOAT
03-02-2009, 09:46 AM
I doubt it :laugh: Not sure you understand the concept of universal health care, no strings attached :blink:
we have that here too.....but only for illegals

TexasRN
03-02-2009, 10:31 AM
In ERs in the US they are not allowed to ask for payment prior to you being seen by the doc. They can ask for registration info and all but the law changed on the payment. So anyone can show up at any ER and be treated without paying first.

In a labor and delivery setting, if you show up, we treat you. We don't ask for payment for that either. The hospital sends a bill afterwards. Although at a lot of hospitals if you don't have insurance or medicaide already set up when you check in, you will not get an epidural without up front payment of cash to the anesthesiologist. It is considered an elective procedure.


~Amy

Hughes_GOAT
03-02-2009, 10:34 AM
So anyone can show up at any ER and be treated without paying first.

suckers



The hospital sends a bill afterwards.


~Amy


suckers

Tyburn
03-02-2009, 11:07 AM
In ERs in the US they are not allowed to ask for payment prior to you being seen by the doc. They can ask for registration info and all but the law changed on the payment. So anyone can show up at any ER and be treated without paying first.

In a labor and delivery setting, if you show up, we treat you. We don't ask for payment for that either. The hospital sends a bill afterwards. Although at a lot of hospitals if you don't have insurance or medicaide already set up when you check in, you will not get an epidural without up front payment of cash to the anesthesiologist. It is considered an elective procedure.


~Amy

Thats even better...get treated first and then you HAVE to pay :laugh:

Why not just be treated and let the tax payer foot the bill :Whistle:

TexasRN
03-02-2009, 11:36 AM
Thats even better...get treated first and then you HAVE to pay :laugh:

Why not just be treated and let the tax payer foot the bill :Whistle:


We do end up footing the bill. People don't pay all of those hospital bills. Or they make a payment plan that has them paying $25 a month on a bill that is well over $100,000. Or in some NICU preemie baby cases....a million or so.


~Amy

TheConcretekid
03-02-2009, 02:50 PM
We do end up footing the bill. People don't pay all of those hospital bills. Or they make a payment plan that has them paying $25 a month on a bill that is well over $100,000. Or in some NICU preemie baby cases....a million or so.


~Amy


God Bless America, making people pay millions of dollars for having a baby.

Tyburn
03-02-2009, 02:53 PM
God Bless America, making people pay millions of dollars for having a baby.
:scared0015: Now...I have a question for you...Where did you get that screen name from? because I discovered an MFSer affiliate on Myspace quite by chance who had the same name...obviously you are not He, because I spoke to him....but...how strange is that :laugh:

F34R
03-02-2009, 03:15 PM
We do end up footing the bill. People don't pay all of those hospital bills. Or they make a payment plan that has them paying $25 a month on a bill that is well over $100,000. Or in some NICU preemie baby cases....a million or so.


~Amy

Ha. I wish someone would pay mine. Every year the state takes my income tax hehe. It's better than paying monthly for me lol. I think my ER bill is almost paid off. This year they took $547 from me!

Hughes_GOAT
03-02-2009, 04:24 PM
We do end up footing the bill. People don't pay all of those hospital bills. Or they make a payment plan that has them paying $25 a month on a bill that is well over $100,000. Or in some NICU preemie baby cases....a million or so.


~Amy
hence, suckers

TheConcretekid
03-02-2009, 05:36 PM
:scared0015: Now...I have a question for you...Where did you get that screen name from? because I discovered an MFSer affiliate on Myspace quite by chance who had the same name...obviously you are not He, because I spoke to him....but...how strange is that :laugh:

Haha, that is weird. And no I am not the MFSer that you speak of. I have a background in wrestling, and I used to use a moved called the Cement Job, or Cement Mixer a lot when I first started learning BJJ/MMA... which isn't always advantageous, so the guys started using cement/concrete puns to make fun of me... and the fact that I am an engineer for a company that designs cement plants didn't help.

I would like to say its because I have hands like concrete or something badass like that (even though thats more lame than anything else) but no, it's because I'm an enginerd with bad wrestling habbits, and I'm 22, 5'5 130lbs (like 9 stone... I assume thats what you use/understand) so thats where the Kid part came from.

Tyburn
03-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Haha, that is weird. And no I am not the MFSer that you speak of. I have a background in wrestling, and I used to use a moved called the Cement Job, or Cement Mixer a lot when I first started learning BJJ/MMA... which isn't always advantageous, so the guys started using cement/concrete puns to make fun of me... and the fact that I am an engineer for a company that designs cement plants didn't help.

I would like to say its because I have hands like concrete or something badass like that (even though thats more lame than anything else) but no, it's because I'm an enginerd with bad wrestling habbits, and I'm 22, 5'5 130lbs (like 9 stone... I assume thats what you use/understand) so thats where the Kid part came from.
:scared0015: wow wish I was 9 stone :mellow:

It was funny because I saw him comment on a photo of someone else in the MFS Hub and I thought...what a bizzare cooincodence, soooo I inquired as to whether it was he...he told me that the only account he had ever had was a looooong time ago on the Underground...but that he might come check this place out...so if we get a new registered person and you get a PM from them out of the blue asking about your name...its probably him :laugh:

I havent a clue what his real name is though...I do know that he's somehow related to Matt Pena though...at least that is his claim, and I know he's quite close to Patrick Miletich...other then that, I know nothing...except he calls himself concreatekid LOL :ninja: