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Tyburn
06-15-2010, 04:55 PM
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US President Barack Obama has said the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico will have the same impact on the US psyche as 9/11.

The disaster will "shape how we think about the environment... for years to come", he told US website Politico.

Mr Obama has arrived in Mississippi on his fourth visit to the affected area. He will also visit Alabama and Florida.

Directors of oil firm BP are meeting to decide whether to suspend dividends as company shares have taken a tumble.

BP saw its shares fall by some 9% in afternoon trading in London.

Earlier, BP said the cost of cleaning up the oil spillage had risen to $1.6bn (£1bn).

BP placed a containment cap on its damaged oil well earlier this month; by last week, it was collecting about 15,000 barrels of oil a day.


On Tuesday, Mr Obama will address the US about the oil spill from the White House in a prime-time televised speech.

A presidential aide said he would outline the next steps his administration would be taking over the spill.

Mr Obama had previously visited Louisiana on three occasions. In his Monday visit, he is going to the other states affected by the crisis - Alabama, Mississippi and Florida.

The right lessons

Mr Obama said the disaster would have a lasting impact on US environmental policy.

"In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11, I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," he said in the Politico interview.

Mr Obama vowed to "move forward in a bold way in a direction that finally gives us the kind of future-oriented… visionary energy policy that we so vitally need and has been absent for so long".

"One of the biggest leadership challenges for me going forward is going to be to make sure that we draw the right lessons from this disaster," he said.

Mr Obama said he could not predict whether the nation would make a complete transition from an oil-based economy within his lifetime, but added that "now is the time for us to start making that transition and investing in a new way of doing business when it comes to energy".

"I have no idea what new energy sources are going to be available, what technologies might drive down the price of renewable energies," he said.

"What we can predict is that the availability of fossil fuel is going to be diminishing; that it's going to get more expensive to recover; that there are going to be environmental costs that our children… our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren are going to have to bear."

Tyburn
06-15-2010, 04:59 PM
mark my words...He'll use this as a precursor to try and push through some other reform...something Environmental I suspect...which will probably be to Energy and the Environment, what the Health Reform was to Insurance.

A money making scam. You watch him...I bet thats his plan. :ninja:

All the revenue he makes can go to help poor starving palestinian children cant it. :mellow:

NateR
06-15-2010, 08:39 PM
mark my words...He'll use this as a precursor to try and push through some other reform...something Environmental I suspect...which will probably be to Energy and the Environment, what the Health Reform was to Insurance.

A money making scam. You watch him...I bet thats his plan. :ninja:

All the revenue he makes can go to help poor starving palestinian children cant it. :mellow:

Yes, he is definitely planning to exploit this disaster to his own ends. This is going to just be the first step to him passing sweeping, tree-hugging, environmentalist-nutjob legislation that is going to do nothing but completely cripple the US economy just as we are climbing out of the recession.

The truth is that the environmentalists themselves are to blame for this disaster. It's their misguided policies that have pushed the oil rigs so far out into the ocean that we can only sit by helplessly when something goes wrong. If this had happened in Alaska, then it would be a mess, but it would have been contained within hours or days at the most.

So the environmentalists cause the disaster, the media plays it up as just short of the end of life on Earth as we know it, then those same environmentalists get to pose as our "saviors" and pass through even more misguided policies and make things much worse further on down the road.

flo
06-15-2010, 09:04 PM
949 Days, 22 Hours, 56 minutes until we can send the community organizer back to Chicago.

Hopefully, the country won't be down the toilet by then...

flo
06-15-2010, 09:09 PM
mark my words...He'll use this as a precursor to try and push through some other reform...something Environmental I suspect...which will probably be to Energy and the Environment, what the Health Reform was to Insurance.

A money making scam. You watch him...I bet thats his plan. :ninja:

All the revenue he makes can go to help poor starving palestinian children cant it. :mellow:

He and Mr. Teleprompter are going to push their cap and tax agenda tonight during his "speech".

flo
06-15-2010, 09:13 PM
The truth is that the environmentalists themselves are to blame for this disaster. It's their misguided policies that have pushed the oil rigs so far out into the ocean that we can only sit by helplessly when something goes wrong. If this had happened in Alaska, then it would be a mess, but it would have been contained within hours or days at the most.

So the environmentalists cause the disaster, the media plays it up as just short of the end of life on Earth as we know it, then those same environmentalists get to pose as our "saviors" and pass through even more misguided policies and make things much worse further on down the road.
Absolutely. The media is criminally negligent, IMO, by not trumpeting these facts before the public. But the enviros will once again be rewarded by the fools in office just like Fannie and Freddie have been, even though they were in large part responsible for the housing market collapse.

Tyburn
06-15-2010, 09:31 PM
He and Mr. Teleprompter are going to push their cap and tax agenda tonight during his "speech".

please...if you can stand it...watch...and let me know what he says :laugh:

The fact he's doing this...The oil slick started MONTHS AGO...now he decides to make a huge broadacast...why? does he think the rest of America dont know whats been going on???

People in Hawaii have probably heard about this disastor by now.

But this is where he'll come into his ellement...see...he gets to TALK, and he's good at that, and he NEEDS something to boost him...

but it makes me sick that he invokes something that really was a vicious attack and crime against the whole world...to an oil slick...terrible, yes...but not 9/11 terrible. How Dare He :cry:

flo
06-15-2010, 10:19 PM
please...if you can stand it...watch...and let me know what he says :laugh:

The fact he's doing this...The oil slick started MONTHS AGO...now he decides to make a huge broadacast...why? does he think the rest of America dont know whats been going on???

People in Hawaii have probably heard about this disastor by now.

But this is where he'll come into his ellement...see...he gets to TALK, and he's good at that, and he NEEDS something to boost him...

but it makes me sick that he invokes something that really was a vicious attack and crime against the whole world...to an oil slick...terrible, yes...but not 9/11 terrible. How Dare He :cry:

Dave, he was already on the tube this morning giving a speech, blah blah blah. I sincerely tried to listen to the first 50 or so speeches, now I simply cannot stand the sound of his voice and the jut of his chin.

He is driven by hubris, personal ambition and the polls. He's an empty suit.

But then I must be racist for saying that...

flo
06-15-2010, 10:25 PM
At the elementary school ~

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/floranista/obamateleprompter.jpg

I mean, doesn't that just say it all?

Tyburn
06-15-2010, 10:31 PM
At the elementary school ~

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/floranista/obamateleprompter.jpg

I mean, doesn't that just say it all?

:laugh::laugh:

Neezar
06-16-2010, 01:52 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check

Obama says BP will pay dearly.

Neezar
06-16-2010, 01:53 PM
FACT CHECK: Obama left blanks in oil spill speech

CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jun 16, 6:19 am ET
WASHINGTON – In assuring Americans that BP won't control the compensation fund (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#) for Gulf (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#) oil spill recovery, President Barack Obama failed to mention that the government won't control it, either.
That means it's anyone's guess whether the government can, in fact, make BP pay (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#) all costs related to the spill.
Obama aimed high in his prime-time Oval Office address Tuesday night — perhaps higher than the facts support and history teaches — as he vowed to restore livelihoods and nature from the still-unfolding calamity in the Gulf of Mexico (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#).

A look at some of his statements and how they compare with those facts:

OBAMA: "We will make BP pay for the damage their company has caused and we will do whatever's necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy. ... Tomorrow, I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#) who have been harmed as a result of his company's recklessness. And this fund will not be controlled by BP. In order to ensure that all legitimate claims are paid out in a fair and timely manner, the account must and will be administered by an independent, third party."

THE FACTS: An independent arbiter is no more bound to the government's wishes than an oil company's. In that sense, there is no certainty BP will be forced to make the Gulf economy whole again or that taxpayers are off the hook for the myriad costs associated with the spill or cleanup. The government can certainly press for that, using legislative and legal tools. But there are no guarantees and the past is not reassuring.
It took 20 years to sort through liability after the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_obama_fact_check#), and in the end, punitive damages were slashed by the courts to about $500 million from $2.5 billion. Many people who had lost their livelihoods in the spill died without ever seeing a check.
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OBAMA: "In the coming days and weeks, these efforts should capture up to 90 percent of the oil leaking out of the well."
THE FACTS: BP and the administration contend that if all goes as planned, they should be able to contain nearly 90 percent of the worst-case oil flow. But that's a big "if." So far, little has gone as planned in the various remedies attempted to shut off or contain the flow. Possibly as much as 60,000 barrels a day is escaping. BP would need to nearly triple its recovery rate to reach the target.
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OBAMA: Temporary measures will capture leaking oil "until the company finishes drilling a relief well later in the summer that is expected to stop the leak completely."
THE FACTS: That's the hope, but experts say the relief well runs the same risks that caused the original well to blow out. It potentially could create a worse spill if engineers were to accidentally damage the existing well or tear a hole in the undersea oil reservoir.
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OBAMA: "From the very beginning of this crisis, the federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation's history."
THE FACTS: Early on, the government established a command center and put Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen in charge of coordinating the overall spill response. But officials also repeatedly have emphasized that BP was "responsible" and they have relied heavily on BP in making decisions from hiring cleanup workers to what oil dispersing chemicals to use. Local officials in the Gulf region have complained that often they don't know who's in charge — the government or BP.
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OBAMA: "We have approved the construction of new barrier islands in Louisiana to try and stop the oil before it reaches the shore."
THE FACTS: Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and local officials pleaded for weeks with the Army Corps of Engineers and the spill response command for permission to build about 40 miles of sand berms along the barrier islands.
State officials applied for an emergency permit to build the berms May 11, but as days went by Jindal became increasingly angry at federal inaction. The White House finally agreed to a portion of the berm plan on June 2. BP then agreed to pay for the project.
The corps was worried that in some cases such a move would alter tides and drive oil into new areas and produce more harm than good.
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OBAMA: "Already, I have issued a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling. I know this creates difficulty for the people who work on these rigs, but for the sake of their safety and for the sake of the entire region, we need to know the facts before we allow deepwater drilling to continue."
THE FACTS: Obama issued a six-month moratorium on new permits for deepwater drilling but production continues from existing deepwater wells.
___ Associated Press writers Matthew Daly, H. Josef Hebert and Jim Drinkard in Washington, Brian Schwaner in New Orleans and Carol Druga in Atlanta contributed to this report.

flo
06-17-2010, 02:37 AM
Discouraging, isn't it Neezar?

Neezar
06-17-2010, 03:49 AM
:cry: Yep.