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Play The Man
04-30-2010, 07:48 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/police-state-how-mexico-treats-illegal-aliens/

How Mexico treats illegal aliens
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010

Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door “to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement.” But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in “Nazi-zona” last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.

The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?

– The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

– If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.

– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

– Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

– Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There’s been no public clamor for “comprehensive immigration reform” in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.

Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators “Smash the State,” and holding signs that proclaimed “No human is illegal” and “We have rights.”

But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot “in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.” In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).

As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico’s southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn’t respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.

Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.

Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing — a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here’s the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:

Hipócritas.

This story was also in the news yesterday:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_migrants_1


Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes
AP

By MARK STEVENSON, Associated Press Writer Mark Stevenson, Associated Press Writer – Wed Apr 28, 8:04 pm ET

MEXICO CITY – Amnesty International called the abuse of migrants in Mexico a major human rights crisis Wednesday, and accused some officials of turning a blind eye or even participating in the kidnapping, rape and murder of migrants.

The group's report comes at a sensitive time for Mexico, which is protesting the passage of a law in Arizona that criminalizes undocumented migrants.

The Interior Department acknowledged in a statement that the mainly Central American migrants who pass through Mexico on their way to the United States suffer abuses, but attributed the problem to criminal gangs branching out into kidnapping and extortion of migrants.

Rupert Knox, Amnesty's Mexico researcher, said in the report that the failure by authorities to tackle abuses against migrants has made their trip through Mexico one of the most dangerous in the world.

"Migrants in Mexico are facing a major human rights crisis leaving them with virtually no access to justice, fearing reprisals and deportation if they complain of abuses," Knox said.

Central American migrants are frequently pulled off trains, kidnapped en masse, held at gang hideouts and forced to call relatives in the U.S. to pay off the kidnappers. Such kidnappings affect thousands of migrants each year in Mexico, the report says.

Many are beaten, raped or killed in the process.

One of the main issues, Amnesty says, is that migrants fear they will be deported if they complain to Mexican authorities about abuses.

At present, Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues."

The Interior Department said the government has taken some steps to combat abuses and Mexico's legislature is working to repeal Article 67 "so that no one can deny or restrict foreigners' access to justice and human rights, whatever their migratory status."

The Amnesty report said one female migrant told researchers that Mexican federal police had forced her group off a train and stolen their belongings. Forced to walk, she said, she was subsequently attacked by a gang and raped.

The Interior Department said it shares Amnesty's concern, and called the report "a valuable contribution."

Mexico has long been offended by mistreatment of its own migrants in the United States.

The Arizona law — slated to take effect in late July or early August — makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally and allows police to question anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. Mexico has complained that the law would lend itself to racial profiling and discrimination.

J.B.
04-30-2010, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure the argument of "why Mexico is bad" needs to be established.

That point is driven home by the amount of people who go to great lengths to leave that country. :wink:

Play The Man
04-30-2010, 09:15 AM
I'm not sure the argument of "why Mexico is bad" needs to be established.

That point is driven home by the amount of people who go to great lengths to leave that country. :wink:







Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door “to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement.” But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in “Nazi-zona” last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.
One word: "Chutzpah!"

J.B.
04-30-2010, 09:19 AM
"Nazi-zona"

Welcome to Arizona

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1tfIKUZ0fY

flo
04-30-2010, 06:14 PM
One word: "Chutzpah!"

:laugh:

After watching the reactions to this bill I've been thinking about the irony of the statements coming out of Mexico.

That's the nicest way I can say it.

Miss Foxy
04-30-2010, 07:11 PM
The Mexican government is so corrupt its horrible and sad... They seem like they want to keep the people down. Drugs and cartels rule that country. You have to have money in that country to have a "normal" life. It's sad the poverty. I never forget being a little girl visiting and seeing the kids on the street begging for money with no shoes. I gave all my spending money to them.. It always left a sadness in my heart..:sad:

rockdawg21
04-30-2010, 11:33 PM
I'm not sure the argument of "why Mexico is bad" needs to be established.

That point is driven home by the amount of people who go to great lengths to leave that country. :wink:
Well, the point is the blatant hypocrisy.

J.B.
05-01-2010, 01:54 AM
Well, the point is the blatant hypocrisy.

Yeah, but who cares? Everybody already knows that Mexico is jacked up, and it's why millions of people leave that country to come here.

Of course I understand why it is being pointed out, but I just don't care because it's not going to change anything in the debate going on here in America. These protesters are liberal hypocrites and intellectually devoid teenagers who are easily brainwashed. Trying to use logic and reasoning to expose the holes in their ignorant arguments won't work.

When you debate with somebody, and you effectively win the debate using facts and logic, the loser typically accepts defeat and moves on. When you debate this issue with brainwashed liberals , or these "open border" nuts, they just stick their fingers in their ears and scream "RACIST!".

Buzzard
05-01-2010, 11:19 AM
Yeah, but who cares? Everybody already knows that Mexico is jacked up, and it's why millions of people leave that country to come here.

Of course I understand why it is being pointed out, but I just don't care because it's not going to change anything in the debate going on here in America. These protesters are liberal hypocrites and intellectually devoid teenagers who are easily brainwashed. Trying to use logic and reasoning to expose the holes in their ignorant arguments won't work.

When you debate with somebody, and you effectively win the debate using facts and logic, the loser typically accepts defeat and moves on. When you debate this issue with brainwashed liberals , or these "open border" nuts, they just stick their fingers in their ears and scream "RACIST!".

If you can actually win by using facts and logic, I would agree. When you resort to using generalized labels, your argument doesn't seem to stand on its own. It seems as though you are fully informed on the actual Federal laws. I could be mistaken. BTW, what makes these people that you label as "liberals" hypocrites?

J.B.
05-01-2010, 12:09 PM
If you can actually win by using facts and logic, I would agree. When you resort to using generalized labels, your argument doesn't seem to stand on its own. It seems as though you are fully informed on the actual Federal laws. I could be mistaken. BTW, what makes these people that you label as "liberals" hypocrites?

The logic is simple. We have immigration laws that regulate the amount of people who can legally come into this country to live and work. When people enter the country illegally, they are breaking the law, and they should expect that they can be caught and punished for it.

That argument stands on it's own. The fact that I chose to label the idiots protesting as "hypocritical liberals" and "intellectually devoid teen-agers" is because those are the people I am seeing on the streets and in the news.

The "hypocritical liberals" are Democratic politicians, and other zombie-like droids infected with San-Francisco-itus who are calling for a boycott of Arizona. I know you tend to get worked up by the term "liberal", but it is what it is. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, guess what? It's probably a duck. The "intellectually devoid teen-agers" are the ones who are skipping school to protest in the streets while waving Mexican flags, and they can be seen all over.

Buzzard
05-01-2010, 07:51 PM
The logic is simple. We have immigration laws that regulate the amount of people who can legally come into this country to live and work. When people enter the country illegally, they are breaking the law, and they should expect that they can be caught and punished for it.

That argument stands on it's own. The fact that I chose to label the idiots protesting as "hypocritical liberals" and "intellectually devoid teen-agers" is because those are the people I am seeing on the streets and in the news.

The "hypocritical liberals" are Democratic politicians, and other zombie-like droids infected with San-Francisco-itus who are calling for a boycott of Arizona. I know you tend to get worked up by the term "liberal", but it is what it is. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, guess what? It's probably a duck. The "intellectually devoid teen-agers" are the ones who are skipping school to protest in the streets while waving Mexican flags, and they can be seen all over.

Fair enough, but what are you saying their hypocrisy is?

J.B.
05-01-2010, 08:04 PM
Fair enough, but what are you saying their hypocrisy is?

Their hypocrisy exists on many levels, but mostly in this issue it is in calling for a boycott against the state of Arizona. That hurts the very people they are supposed to care about. I mean seriously, how can any politician in this state honestly sit back and think it's okay for them to openly boycott our great state?

Buzzard
05-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Their hypocrisy exists on many levels, but mostly in this issue it is in calling for a boycott against the state of Arizona. That hurts the very people they are supposed to care about. I mean seriously, how can any politician in this state honestly sit back and think it's okay for them to openly boycott our great state?

If there are as many illegals and crimes committed there as you say there are, it doesn't sound that great to me. J/K

I see your point.

J.B.
05-01-2010, 09:20 PM
If there are as many illegals and crimes committed there as you say there are, it doesn't sound that great to me. J/K

I see your point.

It's not perfect, but it's still great here. :wink: