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Tyburn
04-24-2010, 05:46 PM
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So I noticed that Jens was spending a lot longer pruning himself, and he has started to nervously shiver his left wing. Fearing there was something wrong with him I looked up his symptoms. Well there isnt anything directly since his droppings are still indicating good health.

Budgies sit with their wings open if they are hot...but sometimes they do it as a sign of distress...so I wondered what could be distressing him...other then Wyman obviously.

I'm pretty sure its his beak. See I hadnt noticed before...but its the tip has started to curl under!! Apparently its just over growth, and you can take a bird to a vet whenever it happens to have the beak trimmed a little bit. It explains a few things...Jens is frustrated because he's finding it hard to groom himself with a funny shapped beak...this is making him a little dissapointed with life.

So I have decided that we shall have to get him to the vet and get this sorted out. Hopefully I can sort one out on Monday...or at least get one booked...

Jens has also picked up the really annoying habit of making Finch noises under his breath when he thinks I cant hear him. If I didnt know better, I would think he were mocking the finches by trying to copy in a typically disgusted tone of voice the other birds...perhaps he find them irritating to..Lets be honnest...Jens is a grump...he dont like sharing, he get jelous way to easily and just about any change at all gets him really moody...dont even mention a molt...because he's the bane of my life during a molt...I have four birds...and out of all of them...the one who acts most human...displays emotions directly at me...the only one who appears to be aware of himself, beyond himself...is Jens the Budgie...like...I send ages talking to him...and I sing all the time...and in one and a half years he's failed to utter a single word...and I KNOW he CAN speak...I believe he deliberately chooses not to :laugh:

J.B.
04-24-2010, 05:56 PM
Jens is frustrated because he's finding it hard to groom himself with a funny shapped beak...this is making him a little dissapointed with life.

He told you this? :huh:

Are you Dr. Doolittle? :laugh:

Buzzard
04-24-2010, 06:06 PM
:ninja:

So I noticed that Jens was spending a lot longer pruning himself, and he has started to nervously shiver his left wing. Fearing there was something wrong with him I looked up his symptoms. Well there isnt anything directly since his droppings are still indicating good health.

Budgies sit with their wings open if they are hot...but sometimes they do it as a sign of distress...so I wondered what could be distressing him...other then Wyman obviously.

I'm pretty sure its his beak. See I hadnt noticed before...but its the tip has started to curl under!! Apparently its just over growth, and you can take a bird to a vet whenever it happens to have the beak trimmed a little bit. It explains a few things...Jens is frustrated because he's finding it hard to groom himself with a funny shapped beak...this is making him a little dissapointed with life.

So I have decided that we shall have to get him to the vet and get this sorted out. Hopefully I can sort one out on Monday...or at least get one booked...

Jens has also picked up the really annoying habit of making Finch noises under his breath when he thinks I cant hear him. If I didnt know better, I would think he were mocking the finches by trying to copy in a typically disgusted tone of voice the other birds...perhaps he find them irritating to..Lets be honnest...Jens is a grump...he dont like sharing, he get jelous way to easily and just about any change at all gets him really moody...dont even mention a molt...because he's the bane of my life during a molt...I have four birds...and out of all of them...the one who acts most human...displays emotions directly at me...the only one who appears to be aware of himself, beyond himself...is Jens the Budgie...like...I send ages talking to him...and I sing all the time...and in one and a half years he's failed to utter a single word...and I KNOW he CAN speak...I believe he deliberately chooses not to :laugh:

Do you have a cuttle bone or mineral block for him to gnaw on?

http://www.lisashea.com/petinfo/articles/bird_cuttle.html

Tyburn
04-24-2010, 06:08 PM
He told you this? :huh:

Are you Dr. Doolittle? :laugh:

:ninja: logical deduction. Jens wont tell me anything...he wont actually speak english to me at all...even though I know he could...but you have to remember...I spend ALOT of time watching these birds, I know their behaviour patterns well...its important because sick birds hide their symptoms as a reaction to being perceived as prey. If you dont watch a lot, you may miss the tiny differences in behaviour until one day they fall of their pearch!

I've been watching Jens for a year and a half...I know these things...but what really clinched it for me...was when he had climbed ontop of his cuttlefish bone ledge...Budgies use their beak as an extra set of claws...they climb by hooking a beak around the wire streps and using their claws to haul themselves up...and Jens could not position his beak where he needed it...he was hesitant, made several attempts, and nearly fell off the ledge...thats when I saw his beak extended fully from the front, because usually he climbs up the back of the cage so I never see the beak fully out...I might if I grabbed him to get him out of the cage...but he's so docile and used to me handling him he bearly even flaps...infact there have been times where he will jump onto my hand when I go to get him out...

Having rulled out disease...and knowing the tempriture is not nearly hot enough for him to be doing that wing thing to cool down..I consider that if he's having difficulties with the beak in movement, he's probably having that same difficulty in grooming, hence why he's suddenly turned into a woman in terms of the length of time it takes him to ensure his coat is looking presentable

:w00t:

Tyburn
04-24-2010, 06:09 PM
Do you have a cuttle bone or mineral block for him to gnaw on?

http://www.lisashea.com/petinfo/articles/bird_cuttle.html

yes...but he wont use it much...the fool..actually would rather step off the two pearches and ONTO the cuttlefish bone and sit on the edge..it makes him Higher then Wyman :rolleyes: and Closer to me :laugh:

He has a mineral block too...but he doesnt use that now virtually at all...at one time he used to love it...but I guess now he's boared of it. Honnestly, he's a pain in the back LMAO

J.B.
04-24-2010, 06:27 PM
I suppose if God had granted me the gift of being able to fly, I would probably be disappointed in life if I had to live in a cage! :laugh:

Seriously though, I hope you get it all sorted out and Jens gets back to his routine of doing bird-like things with a sense of normality. :)

Tyburn
04-24-2010, 06:36 PM
I suppose if God had granted me the gift of being able to fly, I would probably be disappointed in life if I had to live in a cage! :laugh:

Seriously though, I hope you get it all sorted out and Jens gets back to his routine of doing bird-like things with a sense of normality. :)

Firstly, unless they are migratory, most birds do not fly that often, for that long...next time you go into a square and frighten the pigeons, see what they do...you'll find the second they take off, they are looking for a landing zone...most of the time its up a few metres and then right back down behind you.

Most Birds flitter around, but they hop as much as they fly, they sit on roof tops, or in the trees.

Secondly, Jens and Wyman have aproximately three hours outside the cage each night...do you know how they spend it? Sitting...they fly to and from the pelmet, and then they sit...or in Jens case, actually lie down ON TOP OF their own cage. The only real flying they do is when they try to avoid me catching them...even then if you can prevent them from landing for a few mins, they get tiered and drop out of the sky...they spend the next half hour sitting in the cage with their wings out pretending to be having heart attacks in the hopes I might take pity on them and let them out again :laugh:#

Finally...you dont miss what you dont know. These are not wild birds that have been tamed...infact...they would be unable to live in the wild. They have everything provided for them, and they have never had to look for their own food. They have a stable environment against harsh climates, and they dont have any preditors...okay...so I have shouted at them a couple of times...but that was discipline :laugh: They have spent their whole lives in captivity...from egg, to ashes...they dont know what outside is. You cant miss what your unaware of.

I think Jens will be fine after he gets it trimmed...he aint to bad now, its only because I sit and stare at him for a long time that I notice...he is feeding, thats the important thing...too long a beak and the birds can have trouble eating...and then they die of starvation...Jens is nowhere near that...all the same...because I care about him and have noticed he's...a tad unhappy...I want to sort it out ASAP. I hope it dont cost tooo much :unsure-1:

MattHughesRocks
04-25-2010, 04:28 AM
Dave...The Bird Whisperer :laugh:

For crying out loud Dave go ask in a bird forum:frantics:

J.B.
04-25-2010, 05:13 AM
Dave...The Bird Whisperer :laugh:

For crying out loud Dave go ask in a bird forum:frantics:

Hey!

I already labeled him Dr. Davelittle! :tongue0011:

Whats your beef with birds? Did you watch too many Hitchcock movies? :laugh:

Me and a few buddies are actually working on short film entitled "The Birds", and it's all about the yearly invasion of "Snowbirds" that we get here in AZ. It's an instant classic, filled with oxygen tanks, handicap plates, and people who prefer to drive under 30 MPH.

MattHughesRocks
04-25-2010, 05:37 AM
It's not the birds it's just hearing about the birds...everywhere I hear about birds:bawling:

Hey!

I already labeled him Dr. Davelittle! :tongue0011:

Whats your beef with birds? Did you watch too many Hitchcock movies? :laugh:

Me and a few buddies are actually working on short film entitled "The Birds", and it's all about the yearly invasion of "Snowbirds" that we get here in AZ. It's an instant classic, filled with oxygen tanks, handicap plates, and people who prefer to drive under 30 MPH.

J.B.
04-25-2010, 10:57 AM
It's not the birds it's just hearing about the birds...everywhere I hear about birds:bawling:

Damn the birds! :laugh:

Tyburn
04-25-2010, 12:32 PM
Dave...The Bird Whisperer :laugh:

For crying out loud Dave go ask in a bird forum:frantics:

but I dont have a question :unsure-1: besides...I dont care about other peoples birds :mellow: only my own flock :w00t: I cant believe that they cost almost nothing to look after, and bring so much joy :ashamed:

Tyburn
04-25-2010, 03:11 PM
Secondly, Jens and Wyman have aproximately three hours outside the cage each night...do you know how they spend it? Sitting...they fly to and from the pelmet, and then they sit...or in Jens case, actually lie down ON TOP OF their own cage.

:ninja: SEE :ninja:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5835/file0041.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/file0041.jpg/)

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3675/76387912.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/76387912.jpg/)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7563/hokshu.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/hokshu.jpg/)

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3096/file0042i.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/file0042i.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3651/file0038v.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/file0038v.jpg/)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4159/file0036q.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/file0036q.jpg/)

:happydancing:

MattHughesRocks
04-25-2010, 03:37 PM
Whos the prisoner in the picture?:unsure-1:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3096/file0042i.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/file0042i.jpg/)

flo
04-25-2010, 04:43 PM
Hey!

It's an instant classic, filled with oxygen tanks, handicap plates, and people who prefer to drive under 30 MPH.

Sounds like my kind of film. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


Dave, I hope your vet can get Jens fixed up tomorrow for sure.

Tyburn
04-25-2010, 05:48 PM
Whos the prisoner in the picture?:unsure-1:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3096/file0042i.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/file0042i.jpg/)

Some guy from North Carolina, (I think...) I cant remember his name. :unsure-1: I wrote to him (amoungst others) in various States awaiting Execution. I stopped writing to him because his sentance got downgraded and he left Death Row. The last guy I used to write to from that bunch was at San Quentin...but we lost touch when the building had to be refurbished...or something...I guess they moved the prisoners for a bit to repair damage to the building, I think through age (I cant remember it was some years ago now) and either my letters stopped getting through, or else he was forbidden to reply...or something like that. (and no he didnt get executed, because I would have been notified in that case LOL...to the best of my knowledge he is still alive) A shame...he was a nice guy...but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was guilty of whatever he did....he sent me his picture also...but I'm not completely sure where thats gone, it will be stuck up on my wall somewhere I would imagine, or filed away with his letters :laugh:

The idea was put to me by a friend that I should try some befriending work to US convicts on death row, they hoped it would curb my enthuism for an English Penal Reform which would bring back the death sentance to England. They banked on my Friendship with these convicts to overcome my morality I suppose. Sure, I became friends with a few and we wrote back and forth for a while...but I've never changed my view. :ninja:

Just because I know...and dare I say, became friends with one...doesnt mean I suddenly believe that he should be set free and the death penalty abolished :rolleyes:

Tyburn
04-26-2010, 09:01 AM
We're off to the Vets! Wyman is coming along for the ride because he's in the same cage...its about five moments walk from my house...and is only gonna cost a fiver...yes...I can stretch that far for Jens :laugh:

J.B.
04-26-2010, 09:56 AM
Whos the prisoner in the picture?:unsure-1:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3096/file0042i.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/file0042i.jpg/)

Lord have mercy.....:laugh:

That is candidate for "post of the year" :cool:

Even the bird looks ashamed...lol....

Tyburn
04-26-2010, 10:10 AM
Even the bird looks ashamed...lol....

Wyman always looks like that...He's actually camera shy :ninja:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6684/file0016g.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/file0016g.jpg/)

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4936/file0025w.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/file0025w.jpg/)

Tyburn
04-26-2010, 10:13 AM
Everything went fine with Jens btw :w00t: The Vet reckons that he's in good health so the overgrown beak is probably just natural...some birds beaks grow too fast for them to keep in check...he says it might have to happen once every four or five months, I should just keep an eye on him...it was only 4 soooo thats a bill I can afford twice yearly or so :)

J.B.
04-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Wyman always looks like that...He's actually camera shy :ninja:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6684/file0016g.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/file0016g.jpg/)

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4936/file0025w.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/file0025w.jpg/)


Thank u Dave...u brought a smile to an otherwise dismal morning... :wink:

Your birds make me laugh. :laugh:

Tyburn
04-26-2010, 04:18 PM
Thank u Dave...u brought a smile to an otherwise dismal morning... :wink:

Your birds make me laugh. :laugh:

My birds bring my great joy also :w00t: