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Bonnie
04-22-2010, 12:31 AM
Did anyone else see this on the news? What do you think/feel about it? Listen to what the muslim guy says in the interview. Makes my blood boil! :angry:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/04/21/ac.griffin.south.park.threat.cnn

Here is an article from the L.A. Times also:

Muslim group warns 'South Park' creators after Muhammad scene (April 21, 2010)

A radical Islamic group has warned "South Park" creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone after a recent episode of the Comedy Central cartoon depicted the prophet Muhammad in a bear costume.

“We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo Van Gogh for airing this show," a posting on the site Revolutionmuslim said. Van Gogh was the Dutch filmmaker shot to death in 2004 after he made a film critical of the treatment of women in Islamic society. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”

"South Park" has long flirted with trouble over depicting Muhammad, which is considered offensive to many Muslims. Wednesday's episode was built around the efforts of the "South Park" kids to bring the prophet to their town, only to realize the difficulty of doing so without showing his face or body. He is ultimately shown wearing a bear mascot's costume.

In 2006, Comedy Central censored the producers' plans to depict Muhammad in the "Cartoon Wars" episodes. The series has kicked up so many battles on this and other fronts that "South Park controversies" has its own Wikipedia page.

A Comedy Central spokesman said the network had no comment. Attempts to load the Revolutionmuslim.com website on Wednesday afternoon were unsuccessful.

"This is not a threat".....yeah, right!

Neezar
04-22-2010, 12:44 AM
:huh: I must say that I would be scared. :unsure-1:

flo
04-22-2010, 12:56 AM
Bonnie, I saw it yesterday on FNC. I was surprised that the SP guys did the satire, to tell the truth.

They HAD to have known the danger it would place them in. I'm not a fan of SP but I really hope they don't get hurt and have stepped up their security measures.

I'd be scared, too. On an earlier post here, I edited my comment about 6 times for just that reason.

Play The Man
04-22-2010, 01:20 AM
Another article on this subject mentioned that the threat had a link to a Huffington Post article that showed the mansions of the "South Park" creators. The message was clear. We know where you live and we are coming after you. I don't think these guys realize the type of people they are provoking. I have a subscription to Architectural Digest and the latest issue has a pictorial of Parker's mansion. If you are going to provoke people capable of murder it is not smart to have a pictorial of your house in a magazine, in my opinion.

NateR
04-22-2010, 01:29 AM
It's funny that with as many times as shows like South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons have made fun of Jesus Christ and GOD, the creators of those shows have never once had a threat put out against their lives. However, once they make fun of Muhammed, the prophet of the so-called "religion of peace," then they are in real danger of being killed for exercising their freedom of speech.

And yet, it's Christianity that is vilified in the media and Islam is portrayed as simply misunderstood by us racist, xenophobic Americans.:rolleyes:

This is why it's so hard to take any sort of Liberal stance on Islam seriously.

Neezar
04-22-2010, 01:33 AM
It's funny that with as many times as shows like South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons have made fun of Jesus Christ and GOD, the creators of those shows have never once had a threat put out against their lives. However, once they make fun of Muhammed, the prophet of the so-called "religion of peace," then they are in real danger of being killed for exercising their freedom of speech.

And yet, it's Christianity that is vilified in the media and Islam is portrayed as simply misunderstood by us racist, xenophobic Americans.:rolleyes:

This is why it's so hard to take any sort of Liberal stance on Islam seriously.

Truth.

Garandshooter
04-22-2010, 02:31 AM
If islamist do anything to these guys, the average american non christian will be forced to realize what we all know, that islam is evil.

Bonnie
04-22-2010, 03:05 AM
It's funny that with as many times as shows like South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons have made fun of Jesus Christ and GOD, the creators of those shows have never once had a threat put out against their lives. However, once they make fun of Muhammed, the prophet of the so-called "religion of peace," then they are in real danger of being killed for exercising their freedom of speech.

And yet, it's Christianity that is vilified in the media and Islam is portrayed as simply misunderstood by us racist, xenophobic Americans.:rolleyes:

This is why it's so hard to take any sort of Liberal stance on Islam seriously.

Yeah, ironic, isn't it. You can come to America with your muslim self or be born here and freely become one of these beings and practice "free speech" which consists of threats of death and speeches of "terrorizing" anyone who isn't one of them or anyone who "dare" practice their free speech to say anything negative of their precious "muhammed".

You know how ignorant I was before 9/11. I did not realize that foreigners could come to our country and basically be turned loose to run amok and do whatever the **** they pleased (learn how to fly airplanes, etc...) only to turn around and use it against us.

The fact that they use "free speech" to spout their garbage-filled hate about America and threaten Americans on American soil is offensive to me.

rockdawg21
04-22-2010, 03:50 AM
What's actually more stupid about this whole situation is they depicted Muhammad in their 5th season about 9 years ago:

That's him to the right of Jesus.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/downloads/download.php?file_id=14404

I think it's great they have the balls to tackle the subject; they knew the whole time what might come of this and I applaud them for doing it. Their whole stance on the situation has been their right to NOT censor Muhammad because it falls under Freedom of Speech.

J.B.
04-22-2010, 04:07 AM
I'm sure this isn't the first time that Matt and Trey have gotten death threats, and it probably won't be the last.

atomdanger
04-22-2010, 04:50 AM
It's funny that with as many times as shows like South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons have made fun of Jesus Christ and GOD, the creators of those shows have never once had a threat put out against their lives. However, once they make fun of Muhammed, the prophet of the so-called "religion of peace," then they are in real danger of being killed for exercising their freedom of speech.

And yet, it's Christianity that is vilified in the media and Islam is portrayed as simply misunderstood by us racist, xenophobic Americans.:rolleyes:

This is why it's so hard to take any sort of Liberal stance on Islam seriously.

Yeah, Why can Christians take things with a grain of salt,
but Muslims go straight to death threats? Damn.

County Mike
04-22-2010, 12:01 PM
I think they're really ticked off about the way South Park depicted Kanye West. :)

I hope anyone who tries to harm Matt and Trey over this are attacked by the Man-Bear-Pig.

Mac
04-22-2010, 03:13 PM
I think the threats may have gotten to them .

I think the episode in question was the one called 200 that was on last week , Well this week they were suppose to do episode called 201 where they were not really finished with all the celebrities they made fun of . But apparently it got pulled and they reran the Scrotie Mcboogerballs episode from a couple weeks ago.

TexasRN
04-22-2010, 05:47 PM
I think the threats may have gotten to them .

I think the episode in question was the one called 200 that was on last week , Well this week they were suppose to do episode called 201 where they were not really finished with all the celebrities they made fun of . But apparently it got pulled and they reran the Scrotie Mcboogerballs episode from a couple weeks ago.

I got to see it. They put a huge censor box over where Muhammed was supposed to be and this week they bleeped out them even saying his name like it was a bad word. So what happened was..... (spoiler)















They had him in the bear costume and the ginger kids were there like a showdown. The gingers demanded he be let out of the costume and the SP kids give in. The bear costume is unzipped and Santa Claus steps out. They tried to trick the gingers. The gingers end up getting Muhammed and calling Tom Cruise to make a deal. They agree to bring him to Tom Cruise and share in the Goo machine. The super friends (Jesus, Buddha, etc) all show up and there's a fight. Tom Cruise is able to extract the Goo and he becomes a Censored box on the screen. Sea Man jumps on his back and one of the SP kids yells "Look. Tom Cruise has semen on his back!" Tom Cruise immediately turns back into himself instead of the censored box and begins to cry. There's also a storyline with Streisand and another about the true identity of Cartman's dad. Apparently he has the ginger gene and he was quite upset about it. :laugh:

That's all I can remember.


~Amy

Rev
04-22-2010, 06:31 PM
Let me be clear on the fact that I HATE Southpark. I think it is the most pathetic and sick show ever aired on American TV. BUT, This is America, and they arent preaching hate so what they are doing should allowed. i hope they continue to make shows about islam and get them good and mad. It might just bring out the truth in these monsters, thats right I said monsters. We have so many stupid people ready to defend islam while they are plotting as we speak to "terrrorize" Americans. This gets me so mad that I, well, I'm gonna stop right there before I hurt my witness any more than I already have. To all you idiots on this forum who defend islam and muzlims, this is what you are defending. before you say that they dont represent all muzlims, I suggest you read the Koran,(I have) this is exactly what they represent. Sure there are some freak radicals out there who call themselves Christians, but our book doesnt endorse violence under the new covenant. You guys make me sick. If you arent part of the Islamic faith then you had better join or they will slit your throat just as fast as anyone else. I know that we have some "vultures" around here that I suspect are circling and waiting to jump all over me so have at it. Go ahead and post a 4 page article and try and sound smart but the fact is the people you are trying to defend just had one of their leaders backing up the rest of our claims. if anyone else has a problem with me getting upset and feels like I am causing problems on the forum then I guess thats your right as well, but I dont apologize. Waaaay to often we are willing to compromise and say that islam is not really violent, when in fact their bible(koran) says otherwise. We need to be willing to speak up and not be pushed into compromise for fear of being labled radical or intolerant. The proof has been made clear on more occasions than we can even count.

Bonnie
04-22-2010, 07:14 PM
Let me be clear on the fact that I HATE Southpark. I think it is the most pathetic and sick show ever aired on American TV. BUT, This is America, and they arent preaching hate so what they are doing should allowed. i hope they continue to make shows about islam and get them good and mad. It might just bring out the truth in these monsters, thats right I said monsters. We have so many stupid people ready to defend islam while they are plotting as we speak to "terrrorize" Americans. This gets me so mad that I, well, I'm gonna stop right there before I hurt my witness any more than I already have. To all you idiots on this forum who defend islam and muzlims, this is what you are defending. before you say that they dont represent all muzlims, I suggest you read the Koran,(I have) this is exactly what they represent. Sure there are some freak radicals out there who call themselves Christians, but our book doesnt endorse violence under the new covenant. You guys make me sick. If you arent part of the Islamic faith then you had better join or they will slit your throat just as fast as anyone else. I know that we have some "vultures" around here that I suspect are circling and waiting to jump all over me so have at it. Go ahead and post a 4 page article and try and sound smart but the fact is the people you are trying to defend just had one of their leaders backing up the rest of our claims. if anyone else has a problem with me getting upset and feels like I am causing problems on the forum then I guess thats your right as well, but I dont apologize. Waaaay to often we are willing to compromise and say that islam is not really violent, when in fact their bible(koran) says otherwise. We need to be willing to speak up and not be pushed into compromise for fear of being labled radical or intolerant. The proof has been made clear on more occasions than we can even count.

I'm with you, Rev. If we're "radical" what are they! That muslim guy in the video quite clearly says they are compelled to terrorize anyone who isn't them. That is what the Koran tells us to do he told the reporter--"to terrorize". I just hope the government is keeping close tabs on him and these people behind RevolutionMuslim issuing these death threats.

NateR
04-22-2010, 11:24 PM
Apparently the creators of South Park took the death threats from all of those open-minded, peaceful Muslims seriously enough to censor their Muhammed episode:
http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims

NateR
04-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Let me be clear on the fact that I HATE Southpark. I think it is the most pathetic and sick show ever aired on American TV. BUT, This is America, and they arent preaching hate so what they are doing should allowed. i hope they continue to make shows about islam and get them good and mad. It might just bring out the truth in these monsters, thats right I said monsters. We have so many stupid people ready to defend islam while they are plotting as we speak to "terrrorize" Americans. This gets me so mad that I, well, I'm gonna stop right there before I hurt my witness any more than I already have. To all you idiots on this forum who defend islam and muzlims, this is what you are defending. before you say that they dont represent all muzlims, I suggest you read the Koran,(I have) this is exactly what they represent. Sure there are some freak radicals out there who call themselves Christians, but our book doesnt endorse violence under the new covenant. You guys make me sick. If you arent part of the Islamic faith then you had better join or they will slit your throat just as fast as anyone else. I know that we have some "vultures" around here that I suspect are circling and waiting to jump all over me so have at it. Go ahead and post a 4 page article and try and sound smart but the fact is the people you are trying to defend just had one of their leaders backing up the rest of our claims. if anyone else has a problem with me getting upset and feels like I am causing problems on the forum then I guess thats your right as well, but I dont apologize. Waaaay to often we are willing to compromise and say that islam is not really violent, when in fact their bible(koran) says otherwise. We need to be willing to speak up and not be pushed into compromise for fear of being labled radical or intolerant. The proof has been made clear on more occasions than we can even count.

The comments about Muslims from our left-leaning forum regulars don't bother me as much as the so-called "Christians" on here who rush to the defense of Muslims anytime someone reveals them for the false-prophet-following, hate-mongering, murderers that they are.

rockdawg21
04-22-2010, 11:34 PM
I guarantee this did NOT come as a decision from Matt and Trey because they've been attempting this for the past few years and Comedy Central continues to block it.

Oh, I just found their statement on their official website:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/news/3878

Posted on: 04.22.10
A Statement from Matt and Trey

In the 14 years we've been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn't stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn't some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle's customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn't mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We'll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we'll see what happens to it.

flo
04-22-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm with you, Rev. If we're "radical" what are they!

Same here.

Thanks for posting the statement, rockdawg. I'm glad it was comedy central and not the SP guys who did the censoring; once it is censored, islamofascism wins. Their thinly-veiled threats and terrorizing are specifically aimed at getting people to back down, almost no one published the infamous Mohammad cartoons.

The only way to win this fight is to allow satire/commentary/art/etc. that some people may find objectionable. We don't have to look at it, we don't have to buy it, but we sure as heck don't want to ban it. That's the beauty of our freedoms, I just try to remind myself of that when I see artwork or comedy that I find really offensive.

J.B.
04-23-2010, 12:23 AM
Apparently the creators of South Park took the death threats from all of those open-minded, peaceful Muslims seriously enough to censor their Muhammed episode:
http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims

I'm not sure if that was actually Matt and Trey's call, or if it was Comedy Central's.

Bonnie
04-23-2010, 12:50 AM
I had heard last night that a few years back when they had done a Muhammed skit, Comedy Central wouldn't air it so they did one of Comedy Central scensoring them.

Bonnie
04-23-2010, 12:57 AM
Same here.

Thanks for posting the statement, rockdawg. I'm glad it was comedy central and not the SP guys who did the censoring; once it is censored, islamofascism wins. Their thinly-veiled threats and terrorizing are specifically aimed at getting people to back down, almost no one published the infamous Mohammad cartoons.

The only way to win this fight is to allow satire/commentary/art/etc. that some people may find objectionable. We don't have to look at it, we don't have to buy it, but we sure as heck don't want to ban it. That's the beauty of our freedoms, I just try to remind myself of that when I see artwork or comedy that I find really offensive.

That's what kills me about these bleepedy bleeps, the fact they are taking full advantage of these freedoms while at the same time threatening others who are attempting to do the same. If they want to gag others they should be gagged also. Heck, it wouldn't take much; just tear off a strip from their frock and use that. :Whistle:

They are of the devil and doing his work! This line just popped into my head (forgive me Elvis), "You're the devil in disguise. Oh, yes you are....Devil in disguise". :ninja:

flo
04-23-2010, 04:13 AM
That's what kills me about these bleepedy bleeps, the fact they are taking full advantage of these freedoms while at the same time threatening others who are attempting to do the same. If they want to gag others they should be gagged also. Heck, it wouldn't take much; just tear off a strip from their frock and use that. :Whistle:

They are of the devil and doing his work! This line just popped into my head (forgive me Elvis), "You're the devil in disguise. Oh, yes you are....Devil in disguise". :ninja:
You're right, we are caught between a rock and a hard place! I ask myself which is more precious, my constitutional freedoms or my personal security? Sometimes I'm not sure. :ashamed: But right now I'm not ready to give up any.

Buzzard
04-23-2010, 05:03 AM
It's funny that with as many times as shows like South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons have made fun of Jesus Christ and GOD, the creators of those shows have never once had a threat put out against their lives. However, once they make fun of Muhammed, the prophet of the so-called "religion of peace," then they are in real danger of being killed for exercising their freedom of speech.

And yet, it's Christianity that is vilified in the media and Islam is portrayed as simply misunderstood by us racist, xenophobic Americans.:rolleyes:

This is why it's so hard to take any sort of Liberal stance on Islam seriously.

Can you show me where in the media Christianity is vilified? If it is rampant all over the place, I'm sure you'll have no problem supplying plenty of information on it. Also I'd appreciate the numerous links you can supply where the media portrays Islam as simply misunderstood by racist, xenophobic Americans.



Yeah, Why can Christians take things with a grain of salt,
but Muslims go straight to death threats? Damn.

Good questions, these Muslims seem to be of the extreme fanatical kind. I wish the Christian abortion doctor killer would have taken it with a grain of salt. Either way, there is no right in my mind in either of the groups doings.


Let me be clear on the fact that I HATE Southpark. I think it is the most pathetic and sick show ever aired on American TV. BUT, This is America, and they arent preaching hate so what they are doing should allowed. i hope they continue to make shows about islam and get them good and mad. It might just bring out the truth in these monsters, thats right I said monsters. We have so many stupid people ready to defend islam while they are plotting as we speak to "terrrorize" Americans.

I love South Park. I believe the ones being defended aren't the fundamentalist terrorists. The ones plotting to terrorize Americans deserve punishment based on their criminal terroristic activities. I hope our country goes after them. The defended ones are the ones who don't participate in the hatred of the west. I bet if everyone lumped all Christians together as evil fanatical terrorists, you wouldn't be happy with that when it's only a small portion of those that blemish the name of Christianity, and you would be right to be angry with them. The same goes with you lumping all Muslims under the fanatical terrorist blanket.

This gets me so mad that I, well, I'm gonna stop right there before I hurt my witness any more than I already have. To all you idiots on this forum who defend islam and muzlims, this is what you are defending. before you say that they dont represent all muzlims, I suggest you read the Koran,(I have) this is exactly what they represent. Sure there are some freak radicals out there who call themselves Christians, but our book doesnt endorse violence under the new covenant. You guys make me sick.

I don't see anyone on this forum defending criminal terrorist Muslims here on this forum. I haven't read the Koran, though I am interested in reading it to help me better understand it. Where did you get your copy of the Koran? I used to browse through the one left at work but it was written in Arabic so I got absolutely nothing out of it unless others would translate some of it for me.

Your Good Book shows your God murdering and killing untold millions of people, innocents included. It also shows people killing others because of your God's orders. Drowning everyone and every living creature is supposed to be a good thing?

If you arent part of the Islamic faith then you had better join or they will slit your throat just as fast as anyone else. I know that we have some "vultures" around here that I suspect are circling and waiting to jump all over me so have at it. Go ahead and post a 4 page article and try and sound smart but the fact is the people you are trying to defend just had one of their leaders backing up the rest of our claims.

If you're going to call me out, at least be a big boy about it and call me out with my name. No need to try and do it on the sly. I don't feel the need to Join Islam or Christianity because I don't really desire joining any fear based religions which I have no belief in. I'm not trying to or will defend any of these people for their actions as I find them to be indefensible. Those making thinly veiled death threats should be investigated and if found guilty, punished.

if anyone else has a problem with me getting upset and feels like I am causing problems on the forum then I guess thats your right as well, but I dont apologize. Waaaay to often we are willing to compromise and say that islam is not really violent, when in fact their bible(koran) says otherwise. We need to be willing to speak up and not be pushed into compromise for fear of being labled radical or intolerant. The proof has been made clear on more occasions than we can even count.

There are followers of Islam and Christianity that don't deserve the fundamentalist terrorist tag. Conversely, there are those who do.

Apparently the creators of South Park took the death threats from all of those open-minded, peaceful Muslims seriously enough to censor their Muhammed episode:
http://tv.yahoo.com/south-park/show/492/news/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100422-us_southpark_muslims

I would think that they took the death threats from all of the fundamental terrorist Muslims seriously. I can separate those of the Islamic faith into at least two groups, peaceful ones and fundamental terrorists. It's too bad you lump them all together.

The comments about Muslims from our left-leaning forum regulars don't bother me as much as the so-called "Christians" on here who rush to the defense of Muslims anytime someone reveals them for the false-prophet-following, hate-mongering, murderers that they are.

Again, you are labeling an entire group of people as murderers, hate-mongering and false-prophet-following. You see to hold some of the same qualities as those you so despise. Not the best role model if you ask me, not that you are asking me.

When I read about the article yesterday, I tried going to the site but it wasn't open. I then got to it through a cached version on google. I read through some of their forums and saw a mixture of folks on there ranging from non-believers to moderates to extreme fanatics in both male and female members. I may try to participate in some of the threads there in the near future and prod around some. I wonder how far I will get before I am banned?

I'll gladly ask questions of them from input I receive through here and fill everyone in if they wish.

J.B.
04-23-2010, 05:47 AM
Can you show me where in the media Christianity is vilified? If it is rampant all over the place, I'm sure you'll have no problem supplying plenty of information on it. Also I'd appreciate the numerous links you can supply where the media portrays Islam as simply misunderstood by racist, xenophobic Americans.


Anybody who is connected to mainstream American media can understand Nate's point.

Sources and link are not really required.

Play The Man
04-23-2010, 08:33 AM
Can you show me where in the media Christianity is vilified? If it is rampant all over the place, I'm sure you'll have no problem supplying plenty of information on it. Also I'd appreciate the numerous links you can supply where the media portrays Islam as simply misunderstood by racist, xenophobic Americans.

Buzzard, are you asking for vilification of Christians, Christianity or Christ (or all three?)? Just off the top of my head, I can write some instances. If you are seriously interested, I can do some internet research and come up with examples by the dozens or hundreds. As far as vilifying Christ, it is quite common in the media (I define media here as newspapers, films, art, etc.). Don't you recall the NEA tax-payer funded "Piss Christ" piece of "art" in which a crucifix was pictured immersed in urine? Don't you recall the cartoon in which a naked Jesus was pictured on the cross with an erection? How about the "art" of the Virgin Mary made out of Elephant Dung and cut-out pornographic pictures of female genitalia? Don't you remember the film, The Last Temptation of Christ? Jesus was depicted as a voyeur, watching Mary Magdalene having sex. Didn't you see The DaVinci Code? Jesus supposedly married Mary Magdalene and fathered children by her. How about James Cameron's The Lost Tomb of Jesus, in which he tries to convince the viewer that he has found the tomb of Jesus and his family? You can peruse blogs of bloggers who have gone to homosexual parades and taken pictures of booths in which parade organizers sell sex toys in the shape of the Virgin Mary and Jesus on the Cross. The media report of the parade on the news that evening will only show a monogamous lesbian couple pushing a stroller. Within the past month I remember seeing a review of Law & Order: SVU in which Christians have been the murderer in 2 separate episodes just this season. Although the book is now almost 20 years old, Michael Medved, a Jew, in his book Hollywood vs. America spends a good chunk of the book showing, with numerous examples, how Hollywood vilifies Christians.

As far as the media showing Americans as racist, xenophobes towards Muslims, I can recall a story a couple years back where Dateline NBC arranged to have Muslims dressed in traditional Muslim dress go to NASCAR events with hidden cameras. They had a stereotypical view of NASCAR attendees as racists. They didn't get the footage they had hoped. The plan was exposed on the internet and subsequent hidden camera visits to future NASCAR events were nixed by NBC.

As I mentioned, Buzzard, this is off the top of my head. If you can honestly say that further information will persuade you, I will take the time and make an internet-style "term paper" for you.

rockdawg21
04-23-2010, 01:01 PM
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'South Park' producers say network cut fear speech

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Fri Apr 23, 4:10 am ET

NEW YORK Producers of "South Park" said Thursday that Comedy Central removed a speech about intimidation and fear from their show after a radical Muslim group warned that they could be killed for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

It came during about 35 seconds of dialogue between the cartoon characters of Kyle, Jesus Christ and Santa Claus that was bleeped out.

"It wasn't some meta-joke on our part," producers Trey Parker and Matt Stone said. Comedy Central declined to comment.

Earlier this week, the radical group Revolution Muslim said on its website that "South Park" had insulted their prophet during last week's episode by depicting him in a bear costume.

The group said it wasn't threatening Parker and Stone, but it included a gruesome picture of Theo Van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004, and said the producers could meet the same fate. The website posted the addresses of Comedy Central's New York office and the California production studio where "South Park" is made.

Despite that, Parker and Stone included the Muhammad character in this week's episode. Muhammad appeared with his body obscured by a black box, since Muslims consider a physical representation of their prophet to be blasphemous. When the bear costume was removed, it was revealed to be Santa Claus.

Parker and Stone are known for waiting until the last minute to deliver episodes, often pulling all-nighters to get them done, and giving them the opportunity to address things in the news.

They said that in 14 years of making "South Park," which just had its 200th episode, they've never delivered one they couldn't stand behind.

"Kyle's customary final speech was about intimidation and fear," they said. "It didn't mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped ... We'll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we'll see what happens to it."

Besides the censored dialogue, only one inside joke in this week's episode could be interpreted as a reference to the Muslim group's warning.

During one scene, a mechanized Barbara Streisand robot is seen stomping through the town on a path of destruction. One voice is heard to say, "they've destroyed La Casa Bonita!"

"La Casa Bonita" is the name of Parker and Stone's production facility.

Buzzard
04-23-2010, 01:14 PM
Buzzard, are you asking for vilification of Christians, Christianity or Christ (or all three?)? Just off the top of my head, I can write some instances. If you are seriously interested, I can do some internet research and come up with examples by the dozens or hundreds. As far as vilifying Christ, it is quite common in the media (I define media here as newspapers, films, art, etc.). Don't you recall the NEA tax-payer funded "Piss Christ" piece of "art" in which a crucifix was pictured immersed in urine? Don't you recall the cartoon in which a naked Jesus was pictured on the cross with an erection? How about the "art" of the Virgin Mary made out of Elephant Dung and cut-out pornographic pictures of female genitalia? Don't you remember the film, The Last Temptation of Christ? Jesus was depicted as a voyeur, watching Mary Magdalene having sex. Didn't you see The DaVinci Code? Jesus supposedly married Mary Magdalene and fathered children by her. How about James Cameron's The Lost Tomb of Jesus, in which he tries to convince the viewer that he has found the tomb of Jesus and his family? You can peruse blogs of bloggers who have gone to homosexual parades and taken pictures of booths in which parade organizers sell sex toys in the shape of the Virgin Mary and Jesus on the Cross. The media report of the parade on the news that evening will only show a monogamous lesbian couple pushing a stroller. Within the past month I remember seeing a review of Law & Order: SVU in which Christians have been the murderer in 2 separate episodes just this season. Although the book is now almost 20 years old, Michael Medved, a Jew, in his book Hollywood vs. America spends a good chunk of the book showing, with numerous examples, how Hollywood vilifies Christians.

As far as the media showing Americans as racist, xenophobes towards Muslims, I can recall a story a couple years back where Dateline NBC arranged to have Muslims dressed in traditional Muslim dress go to NASCAR events with hidden cameras. They had a stereotypical view of NASCAR attendees as racists. They didn't get the footage they had hoped. The plan was exposed on the internet and subsequent hidden camera visits to future NASCAR events were nixed by NBC.

As I mentioned, Buzzard, this is off the top of my head. If you can honestly say that further information will persuade you, I will take the time and make an internet-style "term paper" for you.

No need for that. Thanks for taking the time to write out what you did.

As for the "art" that you mentioned, I vaguely recall some of it and am against funding for that.

As far at TV shows go, I've seen numerous slants against those from the Middle East, China, Russia and other "villians du jour" as well as from both Christianity and Islam.

As for the movies mentioned, I have seen a few of them and wasn't too thrilled with any of them. It seems that every movie has/needs a controversial figure, but I don't see Christians being the target in most instances. I'm not saying there aren't more than I am aware of nor trying to downplay them, it's just that I haven't been exposed to that many which would make me think that the media is solely vilifying Christianity.

Neezar
04-23-2010, 02:19 PM
As for the movies mentioned, I have seen a few of them and wasn't too thrilled with any of them. It seems that every movie has/needs a controversial figure, but I don't see Christians being the target in most instances. I'm not saying there aren't more than I am aware of nor trying to downplay them, it's just that I haven't been exposed to that many which would make me think that the media is solely vilifying Christianity.

I don't think that anyone ever implied the "soley" part. You are creating an absolute in the argument that wasn't there. Absolutes are easy targets to disprove.

Nice move! :laugh:

Buzzard
04-23-2010, 05:05 PM
I don't think that anyone ever implied the "soley" part. You are creating an absolute in the argument that wasn't there. Absolutes are easy targets to disprove.

Nice move! :laugh:

Bad choice of words on my part. It wasn't my intent to use an absolute so I could disprove it. I don't see Christianity getting spat upon more than other groups. That could be because I don't see as many movies as others. Not saying it doesn't happen, but that I haven't experienced it.

Rev
04-23-2010, 09:45 PM
Read my whole post!!!!
When I was "calling you out on the sly" it was done to make you and others grin but if you wanna be cute about it, jump on it champ. You can get a copy of the Koran at most any major book store. the reason they all get lumped together is they all follow a book that orders them to do harm and "terrorize" others. Our "good book", doesnt. Like I said in my post, "under the new covenant". Come on man, your usually better than this, you gotta read the whole post or just be like me and ignore the whole thing when its to long.

rearnakedchoke
04-23-2010, 10:06 PM
It's a cop out to have taken those things outta the script ... i tell my non-Chrstian friends all the time ... that if the same energy that is put into dismantling, disproving other religions as much as it is Christianity, there would be non-stop war ... taking the lines out of the script is a punk move

Rev
04-24-2010, 04:34 AM
taking what out of script?
when reading the Koran you will see that Muhammad was as consistant as Louisiana weather. You look at that book next to a history book and you will find that when it suited him he was a man of peace and when it didnt he would change his mind completely and compand his people to kill and steal. That is in the WHOLE context, Koran and history. Its easy to say things that sound cute when you havent done the research, but when you look at the facts and what the two religions are based on you cant even put them in the same Library much less the same paragraph. I have almost daily contact with former muslims and current muslims and the story is the same always from the former muslims, "terror" but the story always seems to change depending on the person with the current muslims. I am out there in the thick of this stuff, not just watching TV and reading web news, you dont have to believe me but what the heck do I have to gain from this? Why would i waist my time if I wasnt serious?

Read all you can on Ishmael and filter all that through history. It will blow your mind.

flo
04-24-2010, 04:48 AM
I think he means Comedy Central taking lines out of the South Park script, Rev.

Rev
04-24-2010, 05:03 AM
Thats cool, I'm not fired up, we cant see or hear each other so i know we cant tell emotions. If I get upset I will let yall know so if I dont, then just know that I speak from a genuine carring heart.

Much love rnc:wink:

Buzzard
04-24-2010, 05:30 AM
Read my whole post!!!!
When I was "calling you out on the sly" it was done to make you and others grin but if you wanna be cute about it, jump on it champ. You can get a copy of the Koran at most any major book store. the reason they all get lumped together is they all follow a book that orders them to do harm and "terrorize" others. Our "good book", doesnt. Like I said in my post, "under the new covenant". Come on man, your usually better than this, you gotta read the whole post or just be like me and ignore the whole thing when its to long.

Sorry 'bout that. I"m grinning now. It's hard to understand nuances when they don't come through on a message board. I'm know I'm guilty of not having my humorous intent come through, and I hate emoticons.:laugh:

Tyburn
04-24-2010, 12:50 PM
Did anyone else see this on the news? What do you think/feel about it? Listen to what the muslim guy says in the interview. Makes my blood boil! :angry:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/04/21/ac.griffin.south.park.threat.cnn

Here is an article from the L.A. Times also:



"This is not a threat".....yeah, right!

Well...its not a threat until they mention one word "Fatwa"

Did you not hear the case of the Cartoonist in denmark who did a small strip on the Islamic Prophet? I think they put a Fatwa on him. Plainly put...a Fatwa is when the Islamic Authorities on the Spiritual Level declaire war against a single person. Its like an arranged hit on someone. They declaire a Fatwa which says it is the duty of any Muslim to kill the person. It tends to happen to book writers who dare to say something even slightly bad against the Prophet and who then dare to publish it.

Fatwa ruins peoples life...because you cant ever be safe wherever you are or go, and most go into hiding for years at a time...its basically that Islam has condemned you to death and they will at some point find you, and kill you.

South Park are rude and horried about everyone at some stage though, its not like they single out Islam as opposed to anything else. :laugh:

cubsfan47
04-24-2010, 03:25 PM
South Park are rude and horried about everyone at some stage though


:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Isn't that what they aim for?

cubsfan47
04-24-2010, 03:29 PM
taking what out of script?
when reading the Koran you will see that Muhammad was as consistant as Louisiana weather. You look at that book next to a history book and you will find that when it suited him he was a man of peace and when it didnt he would change his mind completely and compand his people to kill and steal. That is in the WHOLE context, Koran and history. Its easy to say things that sound cute when you havent done the research, but when you look at the facts and what the two religions are based on you cant even put them in the same Library much less the same paragraph. I have almost daily contact with former muslims and current muslims and the story is the same always from the former muslims, "terror" but the story always seems to change depending on the person with the current muslims. I am out there in the thick of this stuff, not just watching TV and reading web news, you dont have to believe me but what the heck do I have to gain from this? Why would i waist my time if I wasnt serious?

[B]Read all you can on Ishmael and filter all that through history. It will blow your mind.[/B}

I live in Louisiana.:angry::wink::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Good post.

Rev
04-24-2010, 03:32 PM
You live in Louisiana? I'm sorry.
lol

County Mike
04-24-2010, 08:20 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47689000/jpg/_47689284_muhammadbear466.jpg

Uh oh. I guess I'm doomed now.

J.B.
04-24-2010, 08:28 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47689000/jpg/_47689284_muhammadbear466.jpg

Uh oh. I guess I'm doomed now.

That's not Muhammad...

that is Staley, the mascot for the Chicago Bears. :laugh:

http://www.sportsrant.com/images/bears4.jpg

County Mike
04-24-2010, 09:37 PM
http://bloggingexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/southpark-bestfriends.gif

cubsfan47
04-25-2010, 12:16 AM
You live in Louisiana? I'm sorry.
lol

:laugh::laugh::laugh: